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  • Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
    Bing is a steaming pile of shite, I just went to page 65 of a Bing search for that quote and by that point one word equalled a match according to Bing......
    Looks like another rather subjective opinion ...
    Typing in "koran 5:51" to the Bing line on msm.com page the first two hits are;
    http://quran.com/5/51
    http://answering-christianity.com/sa...ri/friends.htm






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    • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
      Looks like another rather subjective opinion ...
      Typing in "koran 5:51" to the Bing line on msm.com page the first two hits are;
      http://quran.com/5/51
      http://answering-christianity.com/sa...ri/friends.htm







      Neither of which has the quote you posted...

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      • Some related reference ...
        The 10 Most Widely Read Middle East Quarterly Articles of All Time
        http://www.meforum.org/5869/middle-e...arterly-top-10
        Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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        • For general reference until I can quote from and/or comment on;

          The Consequences of American Retreat from the Middle East

          http://www.meforum.org/5870/american...he-middle-east

          Obama's Middle East Delusions
          http://www.meforum.org/5685/obama-middle-east-delusions
          Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
          Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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          • Iran to pay families of killed Palestinians - ambassador in Beirut

            Iran will pay thousands of dollars to families of Palestinians killed in a wave of anti-Israeli protests and violence, or whose homes have been demolished by Israel, Tehran's ambassador to Lebanon said on Wednesday.
            Scores of Palestinians and dozens of Israelis have been killed in five months of street violence. Palestinians have carried out stabbings, shootings and car rammings, and Israeli security forces have shot dead many assailants.
            The recent violence has been stoked by a dispute over Jerusalem's al-Aqsa mosque compound and the failure of several rounds of peace talks to secure the Palestinians an independent state in Israeli-occupied territory.
            "The decision firstly includes giving an amount worth $7,000 (£5,028) to every family of a martyr of the intifada in Jerusalem," ambassador Mohammad Fathali said at a Beirut news conference.
            Iran would also offer "$30,000 to every family whose home the occupation (Israel) has demolished for the participation of one of its sons" in the unrest, he said.
            Israel condemned Iran's move. A Foreign Ministry statement said it "demonstrates again Iran's role in encouraging terror," adding that "following the nuclear agreement, Iran continues to be a major player in international terror."
            On Tuesday, Israeli army bulldozers demolished the homes of two Palestinians who killed five people in attacks in the occupied West Bank and Israel last year.
            Israeli officials say such demolitions could deter other Palestinians from launching attacks in a campaign that has killed 28 Israelis and a U.S. citizen since October.
            In the past five months, Israeli security forces have killed at least 168 Palestinians, 111 of whom Israel says were assailants, while most others were shot dead during violent anti-Israeli protests.


            http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-isr...-idUKKCN0VX20H



            Looks like they're using the money that bobo freed up to terrorist sponsor terrorism...


            Just like we opined when he did so...
            Credo quia absurdum.


            Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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            • Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
              Neither of which has the quote you posted...
              As many historians and readers here will likely know, foreign languages don't always translate directly into English. Often two or more English expressions can equate to a term/word in a non-English language. Such is the case here;
              From http://quran.com/5/51 we get;
              " O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. ... "

              From http://answering-christianity.com/sa...ri/friends.htm we get;
              " 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends ... "

              The post that "Paddybhoy" takes issue with is number 665 where the author of the linked and excerpted article either quotes Sheikh Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz, or has himself included both terms as applied in the article text: "
              These Koran verses include: "Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your friends and allies" (5:51) ... "

              Guess it all depends on how literal or finely split one wants to look at the "quote" or Koran translation. I'd wager most can see how either "friends" or "allies" could apply and the message and content isn't detracted by using both in this context.
              Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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              • Archiving a link to a thread where some are upset about mentioning the issues and challenges in Europe accepting "immigrants"/"refugees"* from regions disrupted by Islamic Jihad~ISIS, etc.
                (* - Some may be '5th columnists' ??? )
                http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=168258
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                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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                • Islamization and Demographic Denialism in France
                  by Michel Gurfinkiel
                  PJ Media
                  March 14, 2016

                  http://www.meforum.org/5909/quarter-...ers-are-muslim


                  Canada Must Address the Threat of Jihad
                  by Tarek Fatah
                  The Toronto Sun
                  March 15, 2016

                  http://www.meforum.org/5912/canada-m...hreat-of-jihad
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                  • I have been following this thread for some time, and believe it is a good place to post this:

                    For my wife, in treatment for pancreatic cancer. Thank you for your support.

                    https://www.gofundme.com/moving-moun...NPHmyoDrYlEkfE

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                    • Originally posted by Martok View Post
                      I have been following this thread for some time, and believe it is a good place to post this:


                      Mentioning Sharia Law in less than a minute....

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                      • Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
                        Mentioning Sharia Law in less than a minute....
                        What is the title~topic of this thread?
                        What does one submit to if Muslim, following Islam?

                        Some basic Sharia links;
                        http://islam.uga.edu/shariah.html
                        http://ebookreader.uhostall.com/eboo...haria_Law.html
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
                        Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                        Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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                        • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          What is the title~topic of this thread?
                          What does one submit to if Muslim, following Islam?

                          Some basic Sharia links;
                          http://islam.uga.edu/shariah.html
                          http://ebookreader.uhostall.com/eboo...haria_Law.html
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
                          Apologies, my post was in reference to often mentioned claim that sharia law was being enforced in no go zones across Europe. Which has been proven to be false on numerous occasions.

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                          • Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
                            Apologies, my post was in reference to often mentioned claim that sharia law was being enforced in no go zones across Europe. Which has been proven to be false on numerous occasions.
                            The claim is that Sharia is being enforced by some of the residents of Muslim enclaves in European urban areas and that non-Muslims and police are reluctant to enter those areas because of increased likelyhood of being assaulted. Hence the "no go zone" as unofficially referred to.

                            We see those claims of "false"() in places here such as following threads;
                            How's that accomodation/absorbtion going?
                            Migration Crisis - News & Updates
                            Justice, European Style...

                            Apology not necessary since we've long known you to have a liberal mindset(like the female in the video clip) and are an apologists and enabler of Islamism and Jihad.
                            Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                            Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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                            • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                              The claim is that Sharia is being enforced by some of the residents of Muslim enclaves in European urban areas and that non-Muslims and police are reluctant to enter those areas because of increased likelyhood of being assaulted. Hence the "no go zone" as unofficially referred to.

                              We see those claims of "false"() in places here such as following threads;
                              How's that accomodation/absorbtion going?
                              Migration Crisis - News & Updates
                              Justice, European Style...

                              Apology not necessary since we've long known you to have a liberal mindset(like the female in the video clip) and are an apologists and enabler of Islamism and Jihad.
                              Every time those claims have been challenged and hard evidence has been requested your side has lost.

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                              • Originally posted by Paddybhoy View Post
                                Every time those claims have been challenged and hard evidence has been requested your side has lost.
                                So you are claiming that no Muslim "immigrants"/"refugees" in European countries are engaging in vigilante enforcement of their concept of Sharia Law?

                                Thanks for illustrating how Europe will continue to decline.
                                Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                                Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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