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  • A couple of articles here that relate to the OP. I posted them over in PC and likely they will get lost there.

    This first deals with "reformation" within Islam and as the author points out, if we (West) think and use this in literal sense as applied with Protestant Reformation of Christianity, we are in for an awakening. Since the PRC resulted from increased literacy and printed Bibles available, leading the lay person to read and interpret Scripture for themselves, without "officials" spin, the movement was one of literalism.

    From that perspective, such is what we are seeing in Islam today. However, since there are some rather "un-modern", non-secular, and antiquated passages, along with the Sharia Law (Islam is basically Sharia Law), instead of a revision of Islam to be compatible with 21st Century, just the opposite. The Islamists and Jihadists, Fundamentalists, are wanting to push back to the literal 7th Century application.

    Islam’s ‘Protestant Reformation’

    http://www.humanevents.com/2014/06/3...t-reformation/


    This one was referred to in the above article and provides some start point of comparison between Islam and Christianity&Judism on the matter of Violence, as advocated by Scripture/Dogma;
    Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam?

    http://www.meforum.org/2159/are-juda...olent-as-islam
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    • David - Taken from the last article you linked: 'The New Testament contains absolutely no exhortations to violence.'

      Christians, unless in genuine defence, particularly of the vulnerable - may not wage violent war, it seems. This is in sharp contrast with much that I read in the Islamic tracts.

      Christians are encouraged to love those who oppress and pray for them, Muslims are encouraged to smite down or subject - or 'encourage' by fair means or foul a 'conversion'.

      It seems after reading the life and words of Jesus, that I should be in essence a loving 'peacenik', BUT that on reading up on Muhammad I should be a devious warrior and keeper and trader in slaves. Yes, fundamentalists are wanting to live a life that is more in accordance with the one Muhammad lived, and urged.

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      • Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
        David - Taken from the last article you linked: 'The New Testament contains absolutely no exhortations to violence.'

        Christians, unless in genuine defence, particularly of the vulnerable - may not wage violent war, it seems. This is in sharp contrast with much that I read in the Islamic tracts.

        Christians are encouraged to love those who oppress and pray for them, Muslims are encouraged to smite down or subject - or 'encourage' by fair means or foul a 'conversion'.

        It seems after reading the life and words of Jesus, that I should be in essence a loving 'peacenik', BUT that on reading up on Muhammad I should be a devious warrior and keeper and trader in slaves. Yes, fundamentalists are wanting to live a life that is more in accordance with the one Muhammad lived, and urged.
        You've said a "mouthful" here!

        May take days to weeks, but I will reply in detail.

        Kudos!
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        • YES!



          Could it really be? "Higher" 'Experts' also "get it"!

          Islamic Jihad is a "Forever War of the Ages" ...

          Archiving for Major General Reference;
          http://www.historynet.com/jihad-war-to-the-knife.htm
          via;
          [urtl]http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2841085#post2841085[/url]

          Finally!

          Some of the PTB are "getting it" ...
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          • David - I think the essential differences between the Christian God of the NT and 'Allah' in the Islamic tradition seem to centre around two themes - those of a personal/intimate deity vs remote diety, and also a deity that focuses on love, sacrifice and forgiveness vs one that is more into condemnation, punishment and submission.


            To be a 'Follower' of Christ, or a 'Slave' of 'Allah'?

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            • Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
              David - I think the essential differences between the Christian God of the NT and 'Allah' in the Islamic tradition seem to centre around two themes - those of a personal/intimate deity vs remote diety, and also a deity that focuses on love, sacrifice and forgiveness vs one that is more into condemnation, punishment and submission.


              To be a 'Follower' of Christ, or a 'Slave' of 'Allah'?
              I think you condensed it fairly well there WW.

              A footnote would also be which religion (more than just a Christian versus Islam matter here) provides the most charities and aid organizations, especially to other lands and non-members (and yes I know, often a dual purpose of trying to get converts as well).
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              • The Myth of Palestinian Centrality

                The Myth of Palestinian Centrality

                by Efraim Karsh
                BESA Center
                July 7, 2014

                http://www.meforum.org/4750/the-myth...ian-centrality


                Lengthy but highly recommend "background" read in context of this thread's main theme.
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                • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                  The Myth of Palestinian Centrality

                  by Efraim Karsh
                  BESA Center
                  July 7, 2014

                  http://www.meforum.org/4750/the-myth...ian-centrality


                  Lengthy but highly recommend "background" read in context of this thread's main theme.
                  Great stuff and important to understanding why the Palestinians are treated as undesirables by their "brother" Muslims.
                  "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
                  George Mason
                  Co-author of the Second Amendment
                  during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

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                  • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                    A couple of articles here that relate to the OP. I posted them over in PC and likely they will get lost there.

                    This first deals with "reformation" within Islam and as the author points out, if we (West) think and use this in literal sense as applied with Protestant Reformation of Christianity, we are in for an awakening. Since the PRC resulted from increased literacy and printed Bibles available, leading the lay person to read and interpret Scripture for themselves, without "officials" spin, the movement was one of literalism.

                    From that perspective, such is what we are seeing in Islam today. However, since there are some rather "un-modern", non-secular, and antiquated passages, along with the Sharia Law (Islam is basically Sharia Law), instead of a revision of Islam to be compatible with 21st Century, just the opposite. The Islamists and Jihadists, Fundamentalists, are wanting to push back to the literal 7th Century application.

                    Islam’s ‘Protestant Reformation’

                    http://www.humanevents.com/2014/06/3...t-reformation/
                    ...
                    I think the article wastes its time on a semantic distinction. An article I linked to in the ME section today points toward the underlying reform issue which is political as well as religious. The Reformation led to the Counter-Reformation and by stages to the Thirty Years War which was closed by the Peace of Westphalia. This ended most of Europe's strictly religious wars and began the process of separating church and state and instituted the first guarantees of religious freedom. Even the Jews were given some assurances and safe havens.

                    When people speak of the need for an Islamic Reformation, it is this process they are referring to and its political end result, not the religious schism alone. Because of the explosion of oil wealth and the massive flow of people and trade between the ME and Europe, many Muslims have become much more westernized over the past century. The surge of Wahhabism/Salafism should probably be seen as a Counter-Reformation to what they view as heretical behavior by less conservative Muslims.

                    What Islam probably needs right now is a new Nasser. A secular figure with the political clout to get on with the work of modern nation building in the Arab world. It won't be easy but I'm confident it can be done.
                    Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

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                    • The Israel~Palestine "ISSUE" dominates current news and serves as prime focus of the Islamic Jihad movements, so here are some recent links I've looked up regards other threads that tangent to here;

                      Zion ~ Zionism

                      Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת, translit. Tsiyonut) is a nationalist movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the creation of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the Land of Israel.[1] A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora.[1] Zionism emerged in the late 19th century in central and eastern Europe as a national revival movement, and soon after this most leaders of the movement associated the main goal with creating the desired state in Palestine, then an area controlled by the Ottoman Empire.[2][3][4] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of the Jewish state and address threats to its continued existence and security.[citation needed] In a less common usage, the term may also refer to non-political, cultural Zionism, founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha'am; and political support for the State of Israel by non-Jews, as in Christian Zionism.
                      ....
                      After almost two millennia of existence of the Jewish diaspora without a national state, the Zionist movement was founded in the late 19th century by secular Jews, largely as a response by Ashkenazi Jews to rising antisemitism in Europe, exemplified by the Dreyfus affair in France and the anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire.[16] The political movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in 1897 following the publication of his book Der Judenstaat.[17] At that time, the movement sought to encourage Jewish migration to the Ottoman Palestine.
                      ....
                      In the 19th century, a current in Judaism supporting a return to Zion grew in popularity,[40] particularly in Europe, where antisemitism and hostility towards Jews were also growing, although this idea was rejected by the conferences of rabbis held in that epoch. Nonetheless, individual efforts supported the emigration of groups of Jews to Palestine, pre-Zionist Aliyah, even before 1897, the year considered as the start of practical Zionism.[41]
                      ....

                      The Balfour Declaration and the Palestine Mandate

                      In 1903, the Zionist congress declined an offer by the British to establish a homeland in Uganda. Lobbying by a Russian Jewish immigrant, Chaim Weizmann and fear that American Jews would encourage the USA to support Germany culminated in the British government's Balfour Declaration of 1917, which endorsed the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, as follows:
                      His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.[48]
                      In 1922, the League of Nations adopted the declaration, and granted to Britain the Palestine Mandate:
                      The Mandate will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home ... and the development of self-governing institutions, and also safeguard the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.[49]
                      Weizmann's role in obtaining the Balfour Declaration led to his election as the movement's leader. He remained in that role until 1948 and then became the first President of Israel.
                      Jewish migration to Palestine and widespread Jewish land purchases from feudal[citation needed] landlords led to landlessness among Palestinian Arabs and fueled unrest. There were riots in 1920, 1921 and 1929, in which both Jews and Arabs were killed.[50] Britain was responsible for the Palestinian mandate and, after the Balfour Declaration, it supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to the violent events that followed, the Peel Commission published a report proposing new provisions and restrictions.
                      ....
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
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                      • The situation soon evolves thru Arab attacks against Jews into Israel response, the following;

                        United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - 1947
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._for_Palestine

                        1947–48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2...tory_Palestine

                        1948 Arab–Israeli War
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Ar...%93Israeli_War

                        The 1967 War was essentially fought under same terms(territory) as earlier 1948 War. "Arab" belligerents had not given-up on agenda of Israel's total destruction.
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                        • For the last quarter century plus, one "faction" has dominated the violence, especially to the South of Israel thru the 'Gaza Strip', Hamas ;

                          EXCERPT:
                          Although in 2005 Israel gave up Gaza to the Palestinians in a naive "land for peace" unilateral withdrawal, the result was not peace but rather over 10,000 rockets fired from Gaza at Israeli civilian communities. Here we show how Hamas and other groups weaponize Palestinian civilians and institutions to attack Israel. Click the forward ARROW to continue.

                          Background:
                          The Hamas Charter of 1988 - Defines the Hamas Mission Against Israel and Jews
                          • Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it.
                          • Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realized.
                          • The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

                          "The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

                          http://grid.pjmedia.com/?cmd=view-sh...rticle&id=1934

                          Hamas Covenant 1988
                          The Covenant
                          of the
                          Islamic Resistance Movement


                          18 August 1988
                          In The Name Of The Most Merciful Allah
                          http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
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                          • More 'archive' for general reference, from Drudge;
                            ISIS -- RENAMED AL-QAEDA?
                            AMERICANS BRACE FOR NEW WAVE OF TERROR...
                            ISIS has 12,000 foreign fighters, hundreds of Americans...
                            More British Muslims fight for Islamic State than Britain...
                            PERRY: 'Very real possibility' ISIS terrorists crossed border...
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                            • The following article/link embodies in a brief 'outline' form what I intended when starting this thread several years ago when first arriving at ACG. I felt then, as now, that too many in Leadership/Decision Making Positions failed to grasp the full scope and gauge of Islam to make wise and informed Decisions regarding Western Grand Strategy in response to resurgent Islamic Fundamentalism as displayed on the Global Arena.

                              My start here several years ago was based upon previous efforts of a few~several years on other 'message boards' and venues of that earlier Internet ...
                              http://www.meforum.org/4774/islam-genocide-middle-east

                              How Dissimulation about Islam is Fuelling Genocide in the Middle East

                              by Mark Durie
                              Lapido Media
                              August 12, 2014


                              [EXCERPTS]
                              ...
                              The IS jihadis are killing the men they capture. In one recent incident 1500 men were executed in front of their wives and families. In another incident 13 Yazidi men who refused to convert to Islam had their eyes plucked out, were doused with gasoline and burned alive. When the men are killed, captured women and children are enslaved to be used for sex, deployed as human shields in battle zones, or sold to be used and abused as their new owners see fit.

                              The United States has ironically called for greater cooperation. UN Ambassador, Samantha Power, urged 'all parties to the conflict' to allow access to UN relief agencies. She called on Iraqis to 'come together' so that Iraq will 'get back on the path to a peaceful future' and 'prevent ISIL from obliterating Iraq's vibrant diversity'.

                              Of course it is not 'vibrant diversity' which is being wiped out in Iraq, but men, women and children by their tens of thousands. This is not about the failure of coexistence, and the problem is not 'conflict'. This is not about people who have trouble getting on and who need to somehow make up and 'come together'. It is about a well-articulated and well-documented theological worldview hell-bent on dominating 'infidels', if necessary wiping them off the face of the earth, in order to establish the power and grandeur of a radical vision of Islam.

                              The American administration, according to Nina Shea of the Hudson Institute, 'withholds arms from the Kurds while awaiting a new, unified Iraqi government with a new prime minister. Meanwhile … no Iraqi troops are in Nineveh province.' Only at a few minutes to midnight on the genocide clock has the US begun to launch military strikes against IS forces.

                              These events ought to be sobering to the West, not least because thousands of the IS jihadis were raised and bred in the mosques of Europe, North America and Australia, not to mention the madrassas of nations such as Malaysia, Bangladesh and Indonesia. Having been formed by the theology of radical Islam in their home societies, would-be jihadis are flocking to Syria and Iraq where they seek victory or martyrdom, killing and raping as they go.

                              Why is this so? How did the Arab Spring, hailed by so many armchair western commentators as the next best thing for the Middle East, blossom bright red into a torrent of blood?

                              Theological illiteracy


                              Part of the answer is that the West is in the grip of theological illiteracy. It has stubbornly refused to grasp the implications of a global Islamic revival which has been gaining steam for the best part of a century. The Islamic Movement looks back to the glory days of conquest as Islam's finest hour, and seeks to revive Islamic supremacy through jihad and sacrifice. It longs for a truly Islamic state – the caliphate reborn – and considers jihad to be the God-given means to usher it in.

                              This worldview was promoted in compelling, visionary terms by Indian scholar Abul A'la Maududi, whose writings continue to be widely disseminated by Islamic bookshops and mosques across the West. Maududi argued in his radicalisation primer Let us be Muslims that the only valid form of government is Islamic theocracy – i.e. sharia rule – and Muslims are duty-bound to use whatever power they can muster to impose this goal on the world: 'whoever you are, in whichever country you live, you must strive to change the wrong basis of government, and seize all powers to rule and make laws from those who do not fear God. … The name of this striving is jihad.' And 'If you believe Islam to be true, you have no alternative but to exert your utmost strength to make it prevail on earth: you either establish it or give your lives in this struggle.'

                              My own copy of Let us Be Muslims, which lies open before me as I write, was bought from a well-respected mainstream Islamic centre here in Melbourne, Australia.
                              ...

                              Violent protests

                              ...

                              Jizya

                              It is crystal clear that IS is not playing by the world's rules. It has nothing but contempt for the Geneva Convention. Its battle tactics are regulated by sheikhs who implement the sharia's rules of war. Many of the abuses committed by IS being reported by the international media are taken straight from the pages of Islamic legal textbooks.
                              ...

                              Prophesy

                              ...

                              Compensation
                              In 1799 William Eton, in a survey of the Ottoman empire, reported that Christians under Ottoman rule, on paying the jizya, were addressed with a standard form of words to the effect that 'the sum of money received is taken as compensation for being permitted to wear their heads that year' (Eton's emphasis).

                              To be sure, there are other ways to interpret the Qur'an, but the point is that this understanding of jizya has become the operative one in Northern Iraq and Syria. It also has the backing of centuries of Islamic jurisprudence and practice. It was with this understanding of Islam that the Middle East, South Asia and large parts of Eastern Europe were conquered and occupied under Muslim rule until modern times.

                              This grim fact – that the IS jihadis can ably defend their theology on the basis of Islam's history and religious traditions – means that it will be no easy task to persuade Muslim clerics and intellectuals to 'debunk' them. ...
                              ...

                              Surrender
                              ...

                              Belittling
                              ...

                              Convert or die
                              Reports show that IS has been setting jizya so high in both Syria and northern Iraq, and levying it so often, that it cannot be paid. This gives Christians who wish to stay in their homes but two choices: convert or die. Most have fled, but some, including those who are too frail or disabled to flee, have had to convert to save themselves. The fleeing refugees are in a particularly desperate situation, because they are progressively stripped of their belongings by IS checkpoints as they escape.

                              There is nothing new here. Throughout history the jizya has been a heavy imposition for non-Muslims. Large numbers of Christians converted to Islam in the early centuries of Islamic rule in order to avoid this tax. ...
                              ...

                              Rules of war
                              ...
                              The widespread looting of property is also validated by Islam's rules of war: 'A free male Muslim who has reached puberty and is sane is entitled to the spoils of battle when he has participated in a battle to the end of it' (chapter o10.1). And 'Anyone who … kills one of the enemy or effectively incapacitates him, risking his own life thereby, is entitled to whatever he can take from the enemy, meaning as much as he can take away with him in the battle, such as a mount, clothes, weaponry, money or other' (chapter o10.2).

                              The grim reality is that the fate of Christians and Yazidis in northern Iraq today all too often matches the stipulations of Islamic textbooks: non-Muslim men are killed, their women and children enslaved, and their property and possessions looted.

                              It is regrettable that the hard cold reality of Islamic imperialism and the dhimma system have been denied and obscured by scholars. For example Bernard Lewis claimed that 'The dhimma on the whole worked quite well.'
                              As part of this obscurantist veil, the true meaning of the words jizya and dhimma have been hidden by scholars.
                              ...

                              Islamic rule

                              ...

                              Bigotry
                              ....

                              True meaning
                              ...

                              Cultural blindness
                              One of the effects of enforced cultural blindness and intellectual amnesia is rampant theological illiteracy among Western policy makers. This is now having the direst of consequences for Christians and others in the Middle East. Those who managed the Western occupation of Iraq were deeply ignorant of the dangers to non-Muslim minorities posed by the Islamic revivalism combined with Western inference, and in particular by the re-establishment of the jihad-dhimma system. They overlooked the fact that re-establishing the dhimma has always been part of the agenda of Islamic revivalist movements. They did not grasp that jihad war zones always prove especially deadly to non-Muslims, even when the main conflict is between Muslims.

                              It had also been forgotten that advances in the rights of non-Muslim populations across the Middle East – such as the official dismantling of dhimma laws by the Ottomans in the mid-nineteenth century – were only achieved due to sustained political and military pressure from the Great Powers, and at the cost of suppressing mainstream Islamic dogmas. Indeed this 'humiliation' of Islam is one of the very things the global Islamic revival is supposed to be winding back: this is why the deterioration of the human rights of non-Muslim minorities – from Malaysia to Egypt – has been so marked in recent decades.

                              Today Islamic revivalist dogmas, which have become deeply entrenched in Muslim communities both throughout the West and in Muslim majority states, eulogize Islam's glory days, when Christians and other non-Muslims paid jizya to keep their heads. Revivalists look forward to a time when sharia principles, implemented through unfettered jihad, will enforce the view that non-Muslims do not have an inherent right to life, but only a conceded right for which they must compensate Muslims in gold. We need not be surprised or shocked when young men from around the globe, reared on this poisonous theological cocktail, volunteer for jihad in Syria and Iraq to usher in a longed-for Islamic utopia. It should not shock us that they have no qualms about shedding non-Muslim blood.

                              The effect of the cultural jihad, waged not only by Muslim apologists, but also by Western elites, is that Western policy makers have become blind to the enormity of present-day non-Muslim suffering under the yoke of Islam, for they have no reference points to comprehend it. To engage with this suffering and develop policies to counter it would require acknowledgement of its root causes, namely the theological framework of jihad and the dhimma, but that is simply too frightening for societies who have multicultural dogmas rusted onto their psyches, having embraced a false view of history and stubbornly obscurantist views about theology.
                              As long as policy makers continue to seek intellectual solace in calls for 'conflict resolution' and 'reconciliation', the vulnerable will continue to be killed, raped and looted in the name of Islamic revivalism. The lives of tens of thousands of vulnerable and peaceful Christians, Yazidis and others, whose crime is that their religion is unacceptable, now hang in the balance in northern Iraq, while the West sits paralyzed on the side lines, stunned and stupefied by the lies it has told itself for so many years.
                              ...

                              Infidel West

                              ...
                              ...
                              Right now IS's victims deserve military intervention, food, water and medical supplies. Many will need permanent sanctuary outside of their homelands.

                              Longer term, much more is needed. Certainly the will to persevere, because the world is in but the early stages of a (now resumed) centuries-long war with militant Islam, but above all, in order to make sustained progress in the long struggle ahead, we will require a greater appetite for the truth.
                              http://www.meforum.org/4774/islam-genocide-middle-east
                              Last edited by G David Bock; 28 Aug 14, 15:03. Reason: Punctuation and spacing for ease of reading
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                              • Another redeeming aspect of Islam;

                                Muslims Sexually Enslaving Children: A Global Phenomenon

                                EXCERPT:
                                ....
                                In order to eliminate sexual immorality from among male Muslim youth, Kuwaiti political activist Salwa al-Mutairi suggested the formal reinstitution of sex-slavery—not unlike what was recently exposed in Rotherham. She said on video that Islam's greatest authorities from Mecca, the city of Islam, all confirmed the legality of sex-slavery to her. According to the Kuwaiti woman:
                                A Muslim state must [first] attack a Christian state—sorry, I mean any non-Muslim state—and they [the women, the future sex-slaves] must be captives of the raid. Is this forbidden? Not at all; according to Islam, sex slaves are not at all forbidden. Quite the contrary, the rules regulating sex-slaves differ from those for free women [i.e., Muslim women]: the latter's body must be covered entirely, except for her face and hands, whereas the sex-slave is kept naked from the bellybutton on up—she is different from the free woman; the free woman has to be married properly to her husband, but the sex-slave—he just buys her and that's that…. For example, in the Chechnya war, surely there are female Russian captives. So go and buy those and sell them here in Kuwait; better that than have our men engage in forbidden sexual relations. I don't see any problem in this, no problem at all.
                                What happened in Rotherham is hardly an aberration. Rather, it is Islam coming to town, Muslims growing in numbers. Even Dr. Taj Hargey, a British imam, just confirmed that the majority of the UK's "imams promote grooming rings." He said Muslim men are taught that women are "second-class citizens, little more than chattels or possessions over whom they have absolute authority" and that the imams preach a doctrine "that denigrates all women, but treats whites with particular contempt."
                                ...
                                http://www.meforum.org/4795/muslims-...ldren-a-global


                                As for Rotherham;
                                EXCERPT:
                                There are no words for the horror of Rotherham.

                                More than 1,400 young girls have been raped and brutally exploited in the northern England town of roughly 250,000 over the past 16 years, while nearly everyone in authority did all he or she could to look the other way.
                                An independent investigation released last week says: “It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered.

                                They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated.”
                                In other words, the local government tolerated sexual violence on a vast scale. Why? In part, because the criminals who committed these sickening acts were Muslims from the local Pakistani community, and noticing their depravity was considered insensitive at best, racist at worst.

                                The British home secretary says “institutionalized political correctness” contributed to the abandonment of hundreds of girls to their tormentors. Imagine something out of the nightmarish world of Stieg Larsson, brought to life and abetted by the muddle-headed cowardice of people who fear the disapproval of the diversity police.

                                In Rotherham, multiculturalism triumphed over not just feminism, but over the law, over basic human decency, and over civilization itself.
                                ....
                                http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ure-rich-lowry
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