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    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful,"Permission to fight (against disbelievers) is given to those (believers) who are fought against, because they have been wronged and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory" [Quran 22:39]
    "Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (anything worshipped other than Allah e.g. Satan). So fight you against the friends of Satan; ever feeble is indeed the plot of Satan."[Quran 4:76]
    Some American writers have published articles under the title 'On what basis are we fighting?' These articles have generated a number of responses, some of which adhered to the truth and were based on Islamic Law, and others which have not. Here we wanted to outline the truth - as an explanation and warning - hoping for Allah's reward, seeking success and support from Him.
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    (ii) It brings us both laughter and tears to see that you have not yet tired of repeating your fabricated lies that the Jews have a historical right to Palestine, as it was promised to them in the Torah. Anyone who disputes with them on this alleged fact is accused of anti-semitism. This is one of the most fallacious, widely-circulated fabrications in history. The people of Palestine are pure Arabs and original Semites. It is the Muslims who are the inheritors of Moses (peace be upon him) and the inheritors of the real Torah that has not been changed. Muslims believe in all of the Prophets, including Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all. If the followers of Moses have been promised a right to Palestine in the Torah, then the Muslims are the most worthy nation of this.
    When the Muslims conquered Palestine and drove out the Romans, Palestine and Jerusalem returned to Islaam, the religion of all the Prophets peace be upon them. Therefore, the call to a historical right to Palestine cannot be raised against the Islamic Ummah that believes in all the Prophets of Allah (peace and blessings be upon them) - and we make no distinction between them.

    ...
    (1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.
    (a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Islam is the religion of all the prophets, and makes no distinction between them - peace be upon them all.
    It is to this religion that we call you; the seal of all the previous religions. It is the religion of Unification of God, sincerity, the best of manners, righteousness, mercy, honour, purity, and piety. It is the religion of showing kindness to others, establishing justice between them, granting them their rights, and defending the oppressed and the persecuted. It is the religion of enjoining the good and forbidding the evil with the hand, tongue and heart. It is the religion of Jihad in the way of Allah so that Allah's Word and religion reign Supreme. And it is the religion of unity and agreement on the obedience to Allah, and total equality between all people, without regarding their colour, sex, or language.
    (b) It is the religion whose book - the Quran - will remained preserved and unchanged, after the other Divine books and messages have been changed. The Quran is the miracle until the Day of Judgment. Allah has challenged anyone to bring a book like the Quran or even ten verses like it.
    (2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.

    ...
    (3) What we call you to thirdly is to take an honest stance with yourselves - and I doubt you will do so - to discover that you are a nation without principles or manners, and that the values and principles to you are something which you merely demand from others, not that which you yourself must adhere to.
    (4) We also advise you to stop supporting Israel, and to end your support of the Indians in Kashmir, the Russians against the Chechens and to also cease supporting the Manila Government against the Muslims in Southern Philippines.
    (5) We also advise you to pack your luggage and get out of our lands. We desire for your goodness, guidance, and righteousness, so do not force us to send you back as cargo in coffins.
    (6) Sixthly, we call upon you to end your support of the corrupt leaders in our countries. Do not interfere in our politics and method of education. Leave us alone, or else expect us in New York and Washington.
    (7) We also call you to deal with us and interact with us on the basis of mutual interests and benefits, rather than the policies of sub dual, theft and occupation, and not to continue your policy of supporting the Jews because this will result in more disasters for you.

    ...


    If you fail to respond to all these conditions, then prepare for fight with the Islamic Nation. The Nation of Monotheism, that puts complete trust on Allah and fears none other than Him. The Nation which is addressed by its Quran with the words: "Do you fear them? Allah has more right that you should fear Him if you are believers. Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of believing people. And remove the anger of their (believers') hearts. Allah accepts the repentance of whom He wills. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise." [Quran9:13-1]

    ...
    The Nation of Martyrdom; the Nation that desires death more than you desire life:
    "Think not of those who are killed in the way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive with their Lord, and they are being provided for. They rejoice in what Allah has bestowed upon them from His bounty and rejoice for the sake of those who have not yet joined them, but are left behind (not yet martyred) that on them no fear shall come, nor shall they grieve. They rejoice in a grace and a bounty from Allah, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers." [Quran 3:169-171]
    The Nation of victory and success that Allah has promised:
    "It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad peace be upon him) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it victorious over all other religions even though the Polytheists hate it." [Quran 61:9]
    "Allah has decreed that 'Verily it is I and My Messengers who shall be victorious.' Verily Allah is All-Powerful, All-Mighty." [Quran 58:21]

    ...
    Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...24/theobserver


    NOTE, as pointed out here and in other threads, Al Qada is not the only Islamist/Jihadist organization fighting the USA/West. "Wiping out" AQ will not end the Holy War of Islamic expansion currently being fought around the globe.
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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    • BTW Taieb/'Jihad'"John",, you claim to be Catholic, but from your posts would seem to be unaware that the Catholic Bible differs from the Protestant Bible;
      http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...testant_Bibles

      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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      • 'Ell, he does more ranting from the koran than the Bible and is utterly ignorant of what the Bible says.

        But his whole spirit is bound and the only thing he can utter is lies. I'd say its gone beyond demonic obsession and into full on Linda Blair...
        Credo quia absurdum.


        Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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        • The only thing he is and is consistent about is being an Islamic apologist.
          The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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          • Not so, He hates dem Jews more than he loves anything else.

            That's why ricky has chosen this angle of attack. (Imo.)
            Credo quia absurdum.


            Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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            • Well he hasn't come right out and claim that yet.

              But he's done just about everything else to cover it.
              The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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              • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                BTW Taieb/'Jihad'"John",, you claim to be Catholic, but from your posts would seem to be unaware that the Catholic Bible differs from the Protestant Bible;
                http://wiki.answers.com/Q/<b>What_is...ant_Bibles</b>
                I'm not aware the query has ever come up- but exactly - in what context?
                The Books of Sarai and tobit? The alternate ending to Maccabees??

                There is very little actual difference.
                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                • Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                  I'm not aware the query has ever come up- but exactly - in what context?
                  The Books of Sarai and tobit? The alternate ending to Maccabees??

                  There is very little actual difference.
                  I also have no clue what Mr Bock is going on about wrt to his statement of but from your posts would seem to be unaware that the Catholic Bible differs from the Protestant Bible;


                  In my posting history on ACG, I haven't used the term "Protestant Bible", so I'm not sure where Bock got this idea.

                  edit: Nor have I used the term "Catholic Bible"
                  Last edited by Taieb el-Okbi; 12 Jun 14, 11:33.

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                  • Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                    I'd say its gone beyond demonic obsession and into full on Linda Blair...


                    "Full on Linda Blair" is good......[:-) [:-)

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                    • Archiving for general ref; ISIS objective of a Caliphate and interesting map/illustration.
                      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...ultimate-goal/
                      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                        Archiving for general ref; ISIS objective of a Caliphate and interesting map/illustration.
                        http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...ultimate-goal/
                        Yup, the Battles of the Camel, that started as a result of Caliph Uthman's assassination, not long after 'the Prophet' popped his clogs, and that were fought in or near Basra from 7th November 656AD, still roll on.

                        ps. Bin Laden got a leg and thumbs up, short-sightedly as it has transpired, from Uncle Sam, the CIA, and Operation Cyclone {1979-89].
                        Last edited by Wooden Wonder; 21 Jun 14, 03:25.

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                        • Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
                          Yup, the Battles of the Camel, that started as a result of Caliph Uthman's assassination, not long after 'the Prophet' popped his clogs, and that were fought in or near Basra from 7th November 656AD, still roll on.

                          ps. Bin Laden got a leg and thumbs up, short-sightedly as it has transpired, from Uncle Sam, the CIA, and Operation Cyclone {1979-89].
                          You got something here in your first paragraph. However ...

                          Your second (ps.) has better context if one is familiar with Charlie Wilson's War, via Crile's book;

                          http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=BYBFUTUSX-EC

                          The book goes into a lot of the "nuts and bolts" part of up-arming the mujaheddin in Afghanistan which would come to include a significant number of "foreign fighters". The political complexities of operating thru the nation and Guv'mint of Pakistan.

                          Movie ain't that bad for a starter, but very short on the sort of details most ACGers might desire ~ appreciate.
                          http://www.amazon.com/Charlie-Wilson.../dp/0802143415

                          The more thorough may want to delve into Charlie himself a bit deeper;
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie..._politician%29

                          As usual, these things are more complex and deeper woven that might seem at first, surface glance ...
                          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                          • Of course covert and semi-covert ops get convoluted, and attract all kinds of 'marginal' characters.


                            Taken from LiveLeak:

                            Criticism

                            The U.S. government has been criticized for allowing Pakistan to channel a disproportionate amount of its funding to controversial Afghan resistance leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar,[12] who Pakistani officials believed was "their man".[13] Hekmatyar has been criticized for killing other mujahideen and attacking civilian populations, including shelling Kabul with American-supplied weapons, causing 2,000 casualties. Hekmatyar was said to be friendly with Osama bin Laden, founder of al-Qaeda, who was running an operation for assisting "Afghan Arab" volunteers fighting in Afghanistan, called Maktab al-Khadamat. Alarmed by his behavior, Pakistan leader General Zia warned Hekmatyar, "It was Pakistan that made him an Afghan leader and it is Pakistan who can equally destroy him if he continues to misbehave."[14]

                            In the late 1980s, Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto, concerned about the growing strength of the Islamist movement, told President George H. W. Bush, "You are creating a Frankenstein."[15]

                            The U.S. says that all of its funds went to native Afghan rebels and denies that any of its funds were used to supply Osama bin Laden or foreign Arab mujahideen. It is estimated that 35,000 foreign Muslims from 43 Islamic countries participated in the war.

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                            • ^ Once the funds and equipment were in Paki hands, USA had little control over whom it went to. One of the things pointed out in Crile's book, above. Also, Crile illustrates the "matching funds" program that Saudi Arabia worked out with Wilson.
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                              • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                                ^ Once the funds and equipment were in Paki hands, USA had little control over whom it went to. One of the things pointed out in Crile's book, above. Also, Crile illustrates the "matching funds" program that Saudi Arabia worked out with Wilson.
                                Yes, the CIA should have looked into political Islam and the twists and turns that are made regarding the 'Zakat' - Islamic 'charity'.

                                Once the kufr, non-believer, in this case 'Uncle Sam', has handed over his offerings Islam tends to feel free to interpret what is now considered its own.

                                A Summary of Islamic Jurisprudence is published by Al-Maiman Publishing House in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

                                Several chapters of Volume 1 are devoted to zakat. Chapter 8 is devoted in its entirety to “Entitled Recipients of Zakat.”

                                This chapter provides a complete explanation of the 8 categories of recipients of zakat who are entitled to receive it. Of particular interest to those of us in the West is the seventh category. From pages 364-365 of A Summary of Islamic Jurisprudence, Volume 1:


                                The seventh category is that spent in the Cause of Allah such as that given to warriors who volunteer in fighting for the Cause of Allah and they do not take salaries from the Public Treasury of Muslims. Generally, the phrase “the Cause of Allah” refers to the war against the enemies of Muslims, as Allah, Exalted be He.”

                                But if the source of the aid has been the Kufr/non-believer, then as the song says, 'Anything goes'.

                                Google: Why Do Islamic Charities Send Zakat to Terrorists?

                                ps. with reference to 'Pakistan' - I wonder how many folks in the west realise that the word translates as - the land of the pure.
                                Last edited by Wooden Wonder; 24 Jun 14, 15:50.

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