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  • Daud
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Suspected ISIS Operatives Disguised as Migrants Caught in Nicaragua
    by Todd Bensman
    The Center for Immigration Studies
    June 26, 2019

    ...
    According to a 12-sentence Reuters report stemming from a 3:35 minute Nacional Policia Commendante news conference announcement where no questions were entertained, Nicaragua has arrested four men with suspected ties to the Islamic State terrorist group. The reputed ISIS terrorists — two Egyptians and two Iraqis — had crossed into Nicaragua from Costa Rica, where they had "registered" on June 9.

    Three of the four are the same men who a week earlier were publicly reported to be sought by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), after an intelligence alert to Mexican authorities was leaked and confirmed by Breitbart's border and cartel team. It's unclear why a fourth migrant was apprehended with them.

    This is brand new reporting, and the story is still unfolding, but following are some answers to obvious questions and perspective from my own decade-long reporting and research about the terror-travel threat at the U.S. southern border and the migration of Middle Easterners through Latin America — and based on reporting from my December trip to Costa Rica and Panama.
    ... ...

    Conclusion

    The two Egyptians and two Iraqis may well turn out to have no connection to terrorism, or cannot be linked because they are clean. But American authorities are duty-bound to run this all the way to ground because, as I very recently reported, ISIS wanted to send a team over the U.S. southern border through Mexico as recently as 2016. I've also reported that in recent years, American authorities have intercepted at least 100 migrants who were on U.S. terrorism watch lists, which increases the probabilities that some of them would want to commit violent acts once across the border.

    An investigation will have to run its course and, once it does, the public may well never be told of the outcome for a very wrong and unfortunate reason: If past experience indicates future behavior, this is a story that major American news media with the biggest audience shares are going to ignore with all of their might.

    Reputed ISIS terrorists on their way to infiltrate the U.S. Southwest Border would not only confirm President Donald Trump's worldview, but possibly add real political force to his illegal-immigration policy prescriptions for the southern border.

    But working hard to ignore this story into oblivion will not serve anyone's right to know about public safety problems that, if not aired and explored in the normal way, could lead to tragedy, such as when ISIS terrorists posing as Syrian war refugees and asylum-seekers infiltrated a wholly disbelieving and unprepared Europe starting in 2015 and went on to create bloody mayhem across the continent.
    ...
    https://www.meforum.org/58832/isis-o...eid=062f3a999b
    In those migrant waves noone has any document or passport, just some silly IOM and UN card through which they are gettin money from somewhere/someone.

    You ll find hezbollah soldiers, isil's, murderers and drug addicts, hindu gays among them, and some poor people who crawl to survive.

    I ve experienced it.

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  • Daud
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Islamists Rising ... in Local U.S. Politics

    by Oren Litwin
    The Daily Wire
    June 24, 2019

    ...
    On June 20, Boston mayor Marty Walsh announced the appointment of Yusufi Vali as the city's new head of the Office for Immigrant Advancement. Vali is the executive director of the Islamic Society of Boston (ISB), a mosque that is notorious for its deep connections with the Muslim Brotherhood and several terror plotters. More recently, Vali himself oversaw the creation of ISB's new project, the Boston Islamic Seminary; several members of the faculty are open anti-Semites, and one (Suheil Laher) was even the head of an al-Qaida charity.
    ...
    It is natural for well-meaning politicians to want to appoint Muslims to government posts, to be more inclusive to an embattled minority group. (And more importantly, to claim political credit for such inclusiveness.) The risk such politicians face is that politically prominent Muslims, the kind of people who are more likely to get such appointments, are typically the ones who sought out political prominence. For some, it may simply be a matter of civic responsibility or personal ambition; but others are motivated by Islamism, which sees political supremacy as a religious duty.
    ...
    As American Muslims increasingly participate in the civic arena, it is critical that politicians learn to distinguish Islamists and avoid giving them power—especially if government appointments end up short-circuiting the democratic process and giving Islamists all the advantages of incumbency. Islamism is a dangerous ideology that calls for using government power to implement religious goals. Let's not make it any easier for the Islamists.
    ...
    https://www.meforum.org/58829/islami...eid=062f3a999b
    Why not ? If zionist loby in US is that strong, why not islamist too ?

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  • G David Bock
    replied
    Suspected ISIS Operatives Disguised as Migrants Caught in Nicaragua
    by Todd Bensman
    The Center for Immigration Studies
    June 26, 2019

    ...
    According to a 12-sentence Reuters report stemming from a 3:35 minute Nacional Policia Commendante news conference announcement where no questions were entertained, Nicaragua has arrested four men with suspected ties to the Islamic State terrorist group. The reputed ISIS terrorists — two Egyptians and two Iraqis — had crossed into Nicaragua from Costa Rica, where they had "registered" on June 9.

    Three of the four are the same men who a week earlier were publicly reported to be sought by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), after an intelligence alert to Mexican authorities was leaked and confirmed by Breitbart's border and cartel team. It's unclear why a fourth migrant was apprehended with them.

    This is brand new reporting, and the story is still unfolding, but following are some answers to obvious questions and perspective from my own decade-long reporting and research about the terror-travel threat at the U.S. southern border and the migration of Middle Easterners through Latin America — and based on reporting from my December trip to Costa Rica and Panama.
    ... ...

    Conclusion

    The two Egyptians and two Iraqis may well turn out to have no connection to terrorism, or cannot be linked because they are clean. But American authorities are duty-bound to run this all the way to ground because, as I very recently reported, ISIS wanted to send a team over the U.S. southern border through Mexico as recently as 2016. I've also reported that in recent years, American authorities have intercepted at least 100 migrants who were on U.S. terrorism watch lists, which increases the probabilities that some of them would want to commit violent acts once across the border.

    An investigation will have to run its course and, once it does, the public may well never be told of the outcome for a very wrong and unfortunate reason: If past experience indicates future behavior, this is a story that major American news media with the biggest audience shares are going to ignore with all of their might.

    Reputed ISIS terrorists on their way to infiltrate the U.S. Southwest Border would not only confirm President Donald Trump's worldview, but possibly add real political force to his illegal-immigration policy prescriptions for the southern border.

    But working hard to ignore this story into oblivion will not serve anyone's right to know about public safety problems that, if not aired and explored in the normal way, could lead to tragedy, such as when ISIS terrorists posing as Syrian war refugees and asylum-seekers infiltrated a wholly disbelieving and unprepared Europe starting in 2015 and went on to create bloody mayhem across the continent.
    ...
    https://www.meforum.org/58832/isis-o...eid=062f3a999b

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  • G David Bock
    replied
    Islamists Rising ... in Local U.S. Politics

    by Oren Litwin
    The Daily Wire
    June 24, 2019

    ...
    On June 20, Boston mayor Marty Walsh announced the appointment of Yusufi Vali as the city's new head of the Office for Immigrant Advancement. Vali is the executive director of the Islamic Society of Boston (ISB), a mosque that is notorious for its deep connections with the Muslim Brotherhood and several terror plotters. More recently, Vali himself oversaw the creation of ISB's new project, the Boston Islamic Seminary; several members of the faculty are open anti-Semites, and one (Suheil Laher) was even the head of an al-Qaida charity.
    ...
    It is natural for well-meaning politicians to want to appoint Muslims to government posts, to be more inclusive to an embattled minority group. (And more importantly, to claim political credit for such inclusiveness.) The risk such politicians face is that politically prominent Muslims, the kind of people who are more likely to get such appointments, are typically the ones who sought out political prominence. For some, it may simply be a matter of civic responsibility or personal ambition; but others are motivated by Islamism, which sees political supremacy as a religious duty.
    ...
    As American Muslims increasingly participate in the civic arena, it is critical that politicians learn to distinguish Islamists and avoid giving them power—especially if government appointments end up short-circuiting the democratic process and giving Islamists all the advantages of incumbency. Islamism is a dangerous ideology that calls for using government power to implement religious goals. Let's not make it any easier for the Islamists.
    ...
    https://www.meforum.org/58829/islami...eid=062f3a999b

    Leave a comment:


  • Daud
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    Originally posted by nastle View Post

    Churchill the terrorist who burned German cities in 1942 called greece " cradle of civilization " but greek behaviour in their civil war shortly after was far from civilized
    all cultures suffer from some sort of superiority complex , can you not see it in arabs the way they treat non arabs ?
    Islam fundamental creed is actually very similar to early [heretical !] Now extinct Christian sects and Manichean philosophies
    islamic creed gradually evolved over 200 yrs Muhammad a desert chieftain didn't come down with such a sophisticated ideology
    Ineed, all of us are in somway arrogant.

    Islam is not similar to early chrstianity. In fact, its the same religion. If you detach greek/roman antropormophism that is imported, you ll have the same creed.

    I see the creed very simple and clear, as truth should be.

    Yes, Muhammad didnt came with it. Look at all linguists and PhDs we had till today and they couldnt find an error in words of a 6th century desert illiterate man. Rather they re humbled by the Quran.

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  • nastle
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    Originally posted by Daud View Post


    Being myself someone who is sitting beween East and West, i can talk without any bias. Like it or not, they re the cradle of human civilisation ( not we), from assyrians, egyptians, babilonians, persians... bysantine ... and last glorious Islamic Civilisation.

    We europeans had our time too, later. In your post i can spot something i call "cultural racism", in small amount. We in west have some kind of superiority complex.
    I said "just small amount of cultural racism", because there is part of truth in that what you re saying. They ("muslims") even killed the family of the prophet so what to expect more !? They have different behaviour then me. When i go there i see it.

    I dont know is that epigenetic, environmental thing or what.


    Islam can speak for itself- you cant import their culture in it. We put people on the scale, not religion.


    For me Islam isnt cultural thing. Actually its the only religion (ideology) that has sense. I call everyone to go through fundamental creed and see it.
    Churchill the terrorist who burned German cities in 1942 called greece " cradle of civilization " but greek behaviour in their civil war shortly after was far from civilized
    all cultures suffer from some sort of superiority complex , can you not see it in arabs the way they treat non arabs ?
    Islam fundamental creed is actually very similar to early [heretical !] Now extinct Christian sects and Manichean philosophies
    islamic creed gradually evolved over 200 yrs Muhammad a desert chieftain didn't come down with such a sophisticated ideology

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  • Daud
    replied
    Originally posted by nastle View Post
    Middle east culture is savage , if Islam was born in Europe it would be far more evolved and a modern progressive religion
    Even Christian's in Palestine supported animal Arafat and his terrorist PLO
    so Islam is savage as it accurately epitomizes the culture of middle east

    Being myself someone who is sitting beween East and West, i can talk without any bias. Like it or not, they re the cradle of human civilisation ( not we), from assyrians, egyptians, babilonians, persians... bysantine ... and last glorious Islamic Civilisation.

    We europeans had our time too, later. In your post i can spot something i call "cultural racism", in small amount. We in west have some kind of superiority complex.
    I said "just small amount of cultural racism", because there is part of truth in that what you re saying. They ("muslims") even killed the family of the prophet so what to expect more !? They have different behaviour then me. When i go there i see it.

    I dont know is that epigenetic, environmental thing or what.


    Islam can speak for itself- you cant import their culture in it. We put people on the scale, not religion.


    For me Islam isnt cultural thing. Actually its the only religion (ideology) that has sense. I call everyone to go through fundamental creed and see it.

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  • nastle
    replied
    Middle east culture is savage , if Islam was born in Europe it would be far more evolved and a modern progressive religion
    Even Christian's in Palestine supported animal Arafat and his terrorist PLO
    so Islam is savage as it accurately epitomizes the culture of middle east

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  • Daud
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Another example of religious tolerance from the religion of peace and love ...


    Jihad against the Crucifix

    by Raymond Ibrahim
    PJ Media
    June 6, 2019

    ...
    A 37-year-old Muslim migrant in Rome was recently arrested for attempted homicide after he stabbed a Christian man in the throat for wearing a crucifix around his neck. "Religious hate" is cited as an "aggravating factor" in the crime.

    This is hardly the first "religious hate" crime to occur in the context of the cross in Italy. Among others,
    • A Muslim boy of African origin picked on, insulted, and eventually beat a 12-year-old girl during school because she too was wearing a crucifix.
    • A Muslim migrant invaded an old church in Venice and attacked its large, 300-year-old cross, breaking off one of its arms, while shouting, "All that is in a church is false!"
    • After a crucifix was destroyed in close proximity to a populated mosque, the area's mayor said concerning the identity of the culprit(s): "Before we put a show of unity with Muslims, let's have them begin by respecting our civilization and our culture."

    The fact is, Islamic hostility to the cross is an unwavering phenomenon—one that crosses continents and centuries; one that is very much indicative of Islam's innate hostility to Christianity.


    For starters, not only is the cross the quintessential symbol of Christianity—for all denominations, including most forms of otherwise iconoclastic Protestantism—but it symbolizes the fundamental disagreement between Christians and Muslims. As Professor Sidney Griffith explains, "The cross and the icons publicly declared those very points of Christian faith which the Koran, in the Muslim view, explicitly denied: that Christ was the Son of God and that he died on the cross." Accordingly, "the Christian practice of venerating the cross ... often aroused the disdain of Muslims," so that from the start of the Muslim conquests of Christian lands there was an ongoing "campaign to erase the public symbols of Christianity, especially the previously ubiquitous sign of the cross."
    ...
    Modern day Muslim clerics confirm this. When asked about Islam's ruling on whether any person—in this case, Christians—is permitted to wear or pray before the cross, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi, a Saudi expert on Islamic law, said, "Under no circumstances is a human permitted to wear the cross" nor "is anyone permitted to pray to the cross." Why? "Because the prophet—peace and blessings on him—commanded the breaking of it [the cross]."
    ...
    Egypt: A young Coptic Christian woman named Mary was mauled to death when her cross identified her as a Christian to Muslim Brotherhood rioters. Similarly, 17-year-old Ayman, a Coptic student, was strangled and beaten to death by his Muslim teacher and fellow students for refusing to obey the teacher's orders to cover his cross.

    Julie Aftab

    Pakistan: When a Muslim man saw Julie Aftab, a Christian woman, wearing a cross around her neck, he attacked her, forced battery acid down her throat, and splashed it on her face—permanently damaging her esophagus, blinding her in one eye, and causing her to lose both eyelids and most of her teeth.

    Turkey: A 12-year-old boy in Turkey wearing a silver cross necklace in class was spit on and beaten regularly by Muslim classmates and teachers.

    ....
    As Islam's presence continues to grow in Europe, it should come as no surprise that attacks on crosses are also on the rise. Aside from the aforementioned attacks in Italy, the following occurred either in France and Germany, where attacks on churches and crosses have become endemic:
    ....
    Such is the history and continuity of Islamic hate for the cross—that symbol which represents the heart of the Christian faith, namely the death and resurrection of Christ, two events Islam vehemently denies.

    The jihad on the cross began with Muhammad, was carried out by early caliphs, and continues to this day by the jihadis of the world, not to mention the occasional "everyday" Muslim.
    ...
    https://www.meforum.org/58701/the-ji...d6f50-33661481
    I admit there is problem with extremism in muslim world since 1979 but i would like to split things you mentioned.

    In west, even in most direct democracies, a place with muslim majority can NOT build a minaret or have call to prayer (Adhan) in public, in Switzerland for example.

    Having big crosses in public is the same thing for muslims - sign of a lie/disbelief.

    HOWEVER, being a christian was/will never be a crime, things they have in their homes is their property ( crosses, alcohol, pigs... whatever) and noone can attack it !

    Some muslims are savages, anarchists, they yell without even knowing why they yell and they do such terrible crimes you mentioned.

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  • G David Bock
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    Might need to go in another thread as well;

    WATCH: Media blackout of ISIS at the southern border
    ...
    https://www.oann.com/watch-media-bla...uthern-border/

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  • G David Bock
    replied
    Another example of religious tolerance from the religion of peace and love ...


    Jihad against the Crucifix

    by Raymond Ibrahim
    PJ Media
    June 6, 2019

    ...
    A 37-year-old Muslim migrant in Rome was recently arrested for attempted homicide after he stabbed a Christian man in the throat for wearing a crucifix around his neck. "Religious hate" is cited as an "aggravating factor" in the crime.

    This is hardly the first "religious hate" crime to occur in the context of the cross in Italy. Among others,
    • A Muslim boy of African origin picked on, insulted, and eventually beat a 12-year-old girl during school because she too was wearing a crucifix.
    • A Muslim migrant invaded an old church in Venice and attacked its large, 300-year-old cross, breaking off one of its arms, while shouting, "All that is in a church is false!"
    • After a crucifix was destroyed in close proximity to a populated mosque, the area's mayor said concerning the identity of the culprit(s): "Before we put a show of unity with Muslims, let's have them begin by respecting our civilization and our culture."

    The fact is, Islamic hostility to the cross is an unwavering phenomenon—one that crosses continents and centuries; one that is very much indicative of Islam's innate hostility to Christianity.


    For starters, not only is the cross the quintessential symbol of Christianity—for all denominations, including most forms of otherwise iconoclastic Protestantism—but it symbolizes the fundamental disagreement between Christians and Muslims. As Professor Sidney Griffith explains, "The cross and the icons publicly declared those very points of Christian faith which the Koran, in the Muslim view, explicitly denied: that Christ was the Son of God and that he died on the cross." Accordingly, "the Christian practice of venerating the cross ... often aroused the disdain of Muslims," so that from the start of the Muslim conquests of Christian lands there was an ongoing "campaign to erase the public symbols of Christianity, especially the previously ubiquitous sign of the cross."
    ...
    Modern day Muslim clerics confirm this. When asked about Islam's ruling on whether any person—in this case, Christians—is permitted to wear or pray before the cross, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tarifi, a Saudi expert on Islamic law, said, "Under no circumstances is a human permitted to wear the cross" nor "is anyone permitted to pray to the cross." Why? "Because the prophet—peace and blessings on him—commanded the breaking of it [the cross]."
    ...
    Egypt: A young Coptic Christian woman named Mary was mauled to death when her cross identified her as a Christian to Muslim Brotherhood rioters. Similarly, 17-year-old Ayman, a Coptic student, was strangled and beaten to death by his Muslim teacher and fellow students for refusing to obey the teacher's orders to cover his cross.

    Julie Aftab

    Pakistan: When a Muslim man saw Julie Aftab, a Christian woman, wearing a cross around her neck, he attacked her, forced battery acid down her throat, and splashed it on her face—permanently damaging her esophagus, blinding her in one eye, and causing her to lose both eyelids and most of her teeth.

    Turkey: A 12-year-old boy in Turkey wearing a silver cross necklace in class was spit on and beaten regularly by Muslim classmates and teachers.

    ....
    As Islam's presence continues to grow in Europe, it should come as no surprise that attacks on crosses are also on the rise. Aside from the aforementioned attacks in Italy, the following occurred either in France and Germany, where attacks on churches and crosses have become endemic:
    ....
    Such is the history and continuity of Islamic hate for the cross—that symbol which represents the heart of the Christian faith, namely the death and resurrection of Christ, two events Islam vehemently denies.

    The jihad on the cross began with Muhammad, was carried out by early caliphs, and continues to this day by the jihadis of the world, not to mention the occasional "everyday" Muslim.
    ...
    https://www.meforum.org/58701/the-ji...d6f50-33661481

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  • G David Bock
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    One of many "problems" with Pakistan is that it is a divided country on verge of a civil war. The Eastern half has more secular leaning Muslims while the Western half is mostly fundamentalist Islamists. This Western "half" is mostly Pushtun and merges over into Afghanistan;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtuns
    Along with the national demographic divisions, there are also similar within the Paki guv'mint orgs, especially the ISI, which supposedly produced the Taliban to have a controlling influence in post Soviet occupied Afghanistan.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-...s_Intelligence

    Net results ~ take a-ways;

    1) Any "solution" from the West/USA perspective to the Afghanistan and Taliban issue will require a "solution" to the Islamist factions and influences in Pakistan. Any efforts towards a more secular government within Afghanistan by the West/USA is readily offset by the influence and infiltrations from Western Pakistan supported by the Islamist factions within the ISI.

    2) As a nation not separating Church from State, and one with a largely Muslim population, should come as no surprise that non-Muslim minorities will have few if any legal/human rights and be subject to persecutions and legal prejudice and oppressions.

    3) The West/USA are "spinning our wheels" trying to make reforms in Afghanistan when such is so heavily linked to the situation in Pakistan. We(USA/West) should seriously consider a withdraw from "boots on the ground" and other overt presence in that region/area until there is fundamental change in the religiously biased government and it's systems within Pakistan. I'd be in favor of;

    1) with draw all our military forces and support from Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    2) Then apply sanctions and boycotts to both until the reform away from a religious dominated persecution focused forms of government. We might still engage selective bombings/missile strikes against Islamistist groups suspected of forming attacks towards other parts of the world, but for the most part, this region should be cut-off and isolated from the world until they are ready to join and play the 21st century game of equality and civil rights to all.

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  • Bwaha
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    It sure is.

    Recent attacks on churches in northern Burkina Faso are likely to the work of jihadists whose activities are growing in the region despite a military operation to contain Islamist militancy.

    The country's foreign minister says tackling terrorism has become a fight "for the very survival" of the Sahel region, which incorporates for Burkina Faso, Chad, Mali, Mauritania and Niger.

    The militants have forced 100,000 in Burkina Faso alone to flee their homes in recent months.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-afric...eporting-story

    Note how the beeb is being a apologist for the murdering barbarians in the article.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
    Pakistan vet charged with blasphemy over medicine 'wrapped in religious text.

    A Hindu veterinary doctor in south-east Pakistan has been charged under the country's strict blasphemy laws after allegedly selling medicine wrapped in paper bearing Islamic religious text.

    An angry crowd set fire to his clinic near Mirpur Khas, Sindh province, and other Hindu-owned shops were looted.

    The vet said his use of the paper, apparently torn from an Islamic studies school textbook, was a mistake.

    If he is convicted he could be sentenced to life in prison.

    Pakistan's blasphemy laws carry harsh penalties for anyone who insults Islam. Critics say they target a disproportionate number of people from religious minorities.

    More here. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48438333
    But Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance ...

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  • Bwaha
    replied
    Pakistan vet charged with blasphemy over medicine 'wrapped in religious text.

    A Hindu veterinary doctor in south-east Pakistan has been charged under the country's strict blasphemy laws after allegedly selling medicine wrapped in paper bearing Islamic religious text.

    An angry crowd set fire to his clinic near Mirpur Khas, Sindh province, and other Hindu-owned shops were looted.

    The vet said his use of the paper, apparently torn from an Islamic studies school textbook, was a mistake.

    If he is convicted he could be sentenced to life in prison.

    Pakistan's blasphemy laws carry harsh penalties for anyone who insults Islam. Critics say they target a disproportionate number of people from religious minorities.

    More here. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48438333

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