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    World Sufi Conference in India

    Tolerant Islam as Practiced in Majority Muslim has Sufi Leanings.

    Wahabi / Deobandi Islam has strong backing of Oil Rich Nations.

    Where as Barelvi or Sufi Islam has more poor following in India, at least
    they are not supported by any Government.

    Despite 9 / 11 no serious effort is given by any World power to fight the
    ideology of violent Islam.

    Western Diplomats and Policy makers has been long tutored to dismiss
    Non Wahabi Islam as here say or false Islam including Shia Islam.

    Where as In Sufism Both Saints from Shia and Sunni stream are revered
    and worshiped. The difference remains in theology only, In a Sufi Saints
    Shrine devotees from Shia and Sunni stream and also non Muslims are
    welcomed.

    In India at least the Sufi saint have following from people of all religion.

    In India where spiritual Masters are revered, Many generations of Hindus have Sufi Saints as spiritual Masters or Guru. They remain in their own Hindu religion but worship Sufi saints as Gurus.

    Same as worship of Virgin Mary in some parts of India as Goddess.

    The amount which has been spent fighting terror. some part of it should have been spent to fight the Ideology of Violent Islam.

    New Delhi: Four-day World Sufi Forum in Delhi which witnessed gathering of prominent Sufi leaders from across the world made a unanimous call for peace and compassion. At the meet, Sufi leaders from Canada, US, UK, South Africa and Pakistan condemned terrorism and violence.

    Over the last four days, Sufi scholars, intellectuals and academicians have discussed ways to spread the message of peace as advocated by Islam.
    http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/at-wo...olence-1289121





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    In Display of Indian Soft Power, Sufism to be Showcased as Counter to Radical Islam

    In Display of Indian Soft Power, Sufism to be Showcased as Counter to Radical Islam

    In the Islamic world, Egypt’s Al-Azhar University is considered the fount of its intellectual and theological traditions. So, when Shawki Ibrahim Abdel-Karim Allam, the Grand Mufti of Egypt – elected in 2013 by Al-Azhar’s council of ministers – told Sanjay Bhattacharya, the Indian ambassador to Egypt, that he was eager to travel to India to learn about its Islamic experience
    Shawki Allam told Sanjay Bhattacharya that he wanted to “see and study the Indian version of Islam where Muslim sufism exists within a non-Muslim world”.

    “When I met him, he mentioned that he was delighted to travel to India for the first time and would observe how a multi-cultural society co-exists,” said Bhattacharya.
    Syed Mohammad Ashraf Kicchowchhawi, the 49-year-old national president of All India Ulama and Mashaikh Board (AIUMB), told The Wire that the primary aim of the event was to showcase Indian Islam’s co-existence with multiple religions and push it as a counter-narrative against ISIS’s brand of radical ideology.
    “We want to tell the Muslims in those lands that when we can follow Islam living in this country, why can’t you live peacefully when you are living in a mono-religious society. Which Islam are you following then? That means somewhere you have learnt Islam in a wrong way, that the interpretation is incorrect,” he said.
    http://thewire.in/2016/03/14/showcas...l-islam-24744/

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      Grand Mufti of Egypt Abdel Karim Allam takes pot shots against hardline groups within

      Grand Mufti of Egypt Abdel Karim Allam takes pot shots against hardline groups within Islam

      Speaking at the World Sufi conference in Delhi on Friday, Abdel Karim Allam noted that many different groups have emerged in Arab and Islamic societies in numerous different guises, names, and ideologies. "They preach the Islamic system and way of life and strive to return Muslim societies to the right path. But herein lies the problem. None of these groups pursues spiritual reform as the basis for returning to Allah the Almighty and for individual and social reform."
      ............. "Those groups did not revise their stance, but sought to correct their mistake only to commit another. Their political struggle shifted to militant terrorism that has inevitably pushed them toward self-destruction."
      Pointing out that true Sufism has great potential in the struggle against terrorism and extremism, the Grand Mufti noted Sufism can defend the true teachings of Islam and its image, as well as defend homelands, which are the substance for their citizens' hopes and the protectors of their security and future. Sufism is moreover capable of acting as a guardian of societal peace and coexistence due to its prevalence across the globe.

      It is worthwhile to invest the wide proliferation of Sufism and the great number of followers it has attracted in the battle against terrorism and radicalism.
      http://articles.economictimes.indiat...true-teachings

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        The four day World Sufi Forum that concluded with a big rallly at grand Ramlila ground in New Delhi has resolved to fight against terrorism, it in all form. The forum came out with a declaration against extremism and outrightly condemned terrorism.

        Pakistan politician and Islamic scholar Muhammad Tahir ul Qadri said that the real enemy of India and Pakistan is terrorism. He praised the role of India in promoting world peace and lashed out at the ISIS saying what it is doing is not Jihad, but conflict.

        He also condemned ISIS, Al-Qaeda and Taliban and said they are against the Islam. Mr Qadri said separatism is being promoted by narrow minded people for the past 50 years in name of Islam adding that Sufism should be taught in both countries as it can help reduce terrorism.
        http://theindianawaaz.com/qaumi-awaa...-of-terrorism/

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        • #5
          vikram - I recommend you to watch/listen to Jay Smith's talks on Islam and the origins of 'fundamentalism' in his YouTube presentations and debates. He was brought up in Deobandi country in India and learned much about Islam from an early age. He has lived in the UK for nearly 30 years, and has debated radical Islamists and studied Islam in 'mild' as well as 'extreme' forms. He often appears at Speakers' Corner debating with Muslims.

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            Originally posted by Wooden Wonder View Post
            vikram - I recommend you to watch/listen to Jay Smith's talks on Islam and the origins of 'fundamentalism' in his YouTube presentations and debates. He was brought up in Deobandi country in India and learned much about Islam from an early age. He has lived in the UK for nearly 30 years, and has debated radical Islamists and studied Islam in 'mild' as well as 'extreme' forms. He often appears at Speakers' Corner debating with Muslims.
            Certainly,

            Thanks

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            • #7
              Jay Smith,



              He was Born in India in Musoorie, Popularly known as the Queen of Hills
              One of my favorite Hill station. What a wonderful place !!!! up in beautiful Himalayas.



              And also educated i think till Graduation, Had also lived in Bihar,

              He is well informed about Deobandi's ( Indian School Of Wahabi like Radical Islam ) the Radical Branch of Islam in India, he is obsessed with them and debates with them in UK and all over the world,

              In this Video he explains that.




              We are other hand, we want liberals like Barelvi Islam to be Empowered, so they can take up Radical Islam in theological debate.

              Jay Smith is doing good job for Christians and for world in General but, it fails to provide answer.

              Some Western missionaries, however, criticize Smith for generating much heat but little light among Muslims. Dudley Woodberry, formerly Smith's instructor at Fuller, says of the approach, "It can raise questions, particularly for the Western-educated person. I think it's probably counterproductive in a non-Western context."

              Smith freely admits that the approach will not work in Muslim-majority areas of the world, where such boldness would provoke severe persecution. But he says that Muslims in the West use it in their attempts to convert Christians, and that they interpret Christians' typical evangelistic restraint as weakness. He thinks they have a point, and says current missiology has created "a whole industry of fear."
              http://www.islamdaily.org/en/world-i...-takes-a-c.htm

              Sufism is less a sect Islam than a mystical way of approaching the Islamic faith. It has been defined as "mystical Islamic belief and practice in which Muslims seek to find the truth of divine love and knowledge through direct personal experience of God."
              In this process he is guided by his master. A Pir.

              The experience he has is personal and final, it is not based on Books or strict practices. it is quite flexible.

              General Characteristics Sufi practices have their foundation in purity of life, strict obedience to Islamic law and imitation of the Prophet. Through self-denial, careful introspection and mental struggle, Sufis hope to purify the self from all selfishness, thus attaining ikhlas, absolute purity of intention and act. "Little sleep, little talk, little food" are fundamental and fasting is considered one of the most important preparations for the spiritual life.

              Mystical experience of the divine is also central to Sufism. Sufis are distinguished from other Muslims by their fervent seeking of dhawq, a "tasting" that leads to an illumination beyond standard forms of learning. However, the insight gained by such experience is not valid if it contradicts the Qur'an.

              The Path The Sufi way of life is called a tariqah, "path." The path begins with repentance and submission to a guide (sheikh or pir). If accepted by the guide, the seeker becomes a disciple (murid) and is given instructions for asceticism and meditation. This usually includes sexual abstinence, fasting and poverty. The ulimate goal of the Sufi path is to fight the true Holy War against the lower self, which is often represented as a black dog.
              http://www.religionfacts.com/sufism

              They fight against the temptations of World not against the world.

              The Master is as revered as some one close to god and with complete understanding of Prophet,

              In Practice the words of Pir or master is supreme and it has been seen that
              Sufi Saints created a moderate form of Islam.

              They mixed with local Culture and made important bridges to peacefully co exist as in India.

              Islam was not the only religion in India contributing the mystical aspects of Sufism. The Bhakti movement also gained respect due mysticism popularity spreading through India.

              The Bhakti movement was a regional revival of Hinduism linking language, geography, and cultural identities through devotional deity worship. This concept of "Bhakti" appeared in the Bhagavad Gita and the first sects emerged from south India between the 7th and 10th century.

              The practices and theological standpoints were very similar to Sufism, often blurring the distinction between Hindus and Muslims. Bhakti devotees linked puja (Hinduism) to songs about saints and theories of life; they would meet often to sing and worship.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism_in_India


              All the other forms which are peaceful should be provided help to engage, and change the violent face it has acquired.
              Last edited by vikram72; 05 Apr 16, 12:47.

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