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    What does the supreme collective know about what forces and kit they have, geography and the chances of them holding out until the russians pull the plug on the operation.
    Sealion would have failed..............runs,

  • #2
    Originally posted by Longshanks View Post
    the chances of them holding out until the russians pull the plug on the operation.
    I can only answer this one. The answer is... none. I heard Russia has 100,000 troops by the border. Game over for Georgia.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fenris Hachiman View Post
      I can only answer this one. The answer is... none. I heard Russia has 100,000 troops by the border. Game over for Georgia.
      * 1st Infantry Brigade, located in Gori
      * 2nd Infantry Brigade, located in Senaki
      * 3rd Infantry Brigade, located in Kutaisi
      * 4th Infantry Brigade, located in Vaziani
      * 5th Infantry Brigade, located in Khelvachauri (temporary distribution place) and Khoni
      * Artillery Brigade, located in Gori and Khoni
      * Military Engineering Brigade, located in Gori
      * Separate Light Infantry Battalion, located in Adlia
      * Separate Tank Battalion, located in Gori
      * Separate Air Defense Battalion, located in Kutaisi
      * Communication Battalion, located in Saguramo
      * Technical Reconnaissance Battalion, located in Kobuleti
      * Military Police Battalion, located in Tbilisi
      * Medical Battalion, located in Saguramo

      The strength of Land Forces is 26,739 from which 2,215 are officers, 24,508 NCOs (contracting) and 16 civilians.

      Main battle tanks

      * T-72sim1 - 82[5]
      * T-55 - 110

      AIFVs/APCs

      * BMP-1 - 80 units
      * BMP-2 - 120 units
      * BTR-80 - 75 units
      * MT-LB - 64 units
      * Otokar Cobra - 100

      Towed artillery

      * 2A36 Giatsint-B - 12 units
      * 2A65 Msta-B - 18 units
      * 2A18 (D-30) - 120 units

      Self-propelled artillery

      * 2S7 Pion - 12 units
      * 2S19 Msta-S - 3 units
      * 2S3 Akatsiya - 13 units
      * VZ 77 Dana - 24 units

      Multiple Launch Rocket Systems

      * RM-70 - 48 units
      * BM-21 Grad - 120 units
      * LAR-160- 15 units

      Mortars

      * 2B11 120 mm - 240 units
      * M-38/43 120 mm - 365 units
      * M75 120 mm – 250 units

      Assault Rifles and Carbines

      * M4A3 (Colt RO977) - 4,000[6]
      * G36K - Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs special units
      * AKM/AKMS
      * AK-74
      * AKS-74U
      * Tavor TAR-21 - Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs special units

      Machine Guns

      * PK machine gun
      * NSV
      * Mk 19 Mod 3

      Sniper Rifles

      * SVD
      * Remington 700
      * Zastava M93 Black Arrow - 12.7mm heavy, bolt-action sniper rifle
      * Barrett M82A1 - 20 purchased in Israel[7]

      Aircraft

      * 8 Su-25KM
      * 5 Su-25UB
      * 4 Su-25
      * 6 L-39

      Helicopters

      * 1 Mi-35
      * 3 Mi-24P
      * 4 Mi-24V
      * 18 Mi-8
      * 8 UH-1H
      * 7 Mi-2
      Air Defence

      * ?? SA-11 Gadfly (unconfirmed)
      * ?? SA-3 Goa
      * ?? SA-5 Gammon
      * 18 SA-8
      * ?? SA-7A/B Grail
      * ?? SA-14 Gremlin
      * ?? SA-16 Gimlet
      * 35 ZSU-23-4
      * 15 S-60
      * 40 MT-LB with towed ZU-23-2
      * 30 Grom man-portable air-defense system missile launchers with 100 missiles[8]
      Last edited by Jukov; 12 Aug 08, 08:35.
      And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
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      • #4
        Poor innocent helpless fachist georgia
        And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
        Martin Niemöller

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jukov View Post
          Poor innocent helpless fachist georgia
          Is here any moderator?
          - Your Highness, the enemy is so numerous... they outnumber your army.
          - My friend, first I beat 'em then I'll count 'em
          (Polish King Jan III Sobieski during his campaigns)

          Historia Wojskowa Portal Historyczno-Wojskowy phw.org.pl

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jukov View Post
            * 1st Infantry Brigade, located in Gori
            * 2nd Infantry Brigade, located in Senaki
            * 3rd Infantry Brigade, located in Kutaisi
            * 4th Infantry Brigade, located in Vaziani
            ......
            * 15 S-60
            * 40 MT-LB with towed ZU-23-2
            * 30 Grom man-portable air-defense system missile launchers with 100 missiles[8]


            see, this is helpful and a good post. insults and crying out loud are not.
            "Freedom cannot exist without discipline, self-discipline, and rights cannot exist without duties. Those who do not observe their duties do not deserve their rights."--Oriana Fallaci

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            • #7
              What got up his nose?

              Anyways, back to georgia, any info anyone ive been fireing blanks trying to learn what they have.
              Sealion would have failed..............runs,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jukov View Post
                Poor innocent helpless fachist georgia
                The Russian is always at your boot or at your throat.
                Don't leave good whiskey for the damn Yankees!" John Hunt Morgan, Eagleport, Ohio, July 23, 1863

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                • #9
                  That list is off of wikipedia, any other list back this up, if they have that amount, a defence is possible,
                  obviously the cannot contend with the whole might of the russian military, but then the russians cant afford to send everything, georgia could however with stiff resolve give the russians a very tough time, a lot will depend upon leadership.
                  Sealion would have failed..............runs,

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Longshanks View Post
                    That list is off of wikipedia.
                    You noticed that too huh? I was looking up info on the Georgian army yesterday and thought that look familiar.
                    "Artillery lends dignity to what might otherwise be a vulgar brawl." - Frederick the Great

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                    • #11
                      Hard to find . . .

                      Apparently no one with a website ever thought anything happening in Georgia would be important enough to draw attention:

                      some info here [scroll toward the bottom] http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/how...s/armies/e.asp

                      and here
                      http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...gia/index.html
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                      • #12
                        This is somewhat interesting. Anybody can comment on how true this is?

                        http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28892

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                        • #13
                          Not very. The US started to provide training to Georgia in 2002.

                          http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/gtep.htm

                          Did you notice any American arms in the pictures you have seen? You have seen some uniforms, and kevlars. Any M-1s, or anything? The Georgians have been buying more Soviet/Russian crap. It is much cheaper, easy to procure, and they already use it. It is some blustering by yet another state controlled Russian media site (russiatoday is an English site run by RIA-Novosti)
                          "When they get in trouble they send for the sonsabitches." - Admiral King

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                          • #14
                            http://www.cdi.org/pdfs/georgia.pdf
                            training - in 2002. But money came in 1994

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                            • #15
                              And Russian officers got the same training. IMET is a program where military personnel from foreign countries get to come to the US and receive training. The purpose of the program is to build relations at the military level.
                              "When they get in trouble they send for the sonsabitches." - Admiral King

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