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  • Insights into the Georgia - South Ossetia - Russia Conflict

    Jerry Morelock, formerly Chief of Russia Branch on the Joint Staff in the Pentagon, offers his insight into the Republic of Georgia-South Ossetia- Russia conflict.... Full Article

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    Thank's for that great link BP.
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      Yes, interesting to get some background other than what the news stations seem to provide (i.e., not a lot).

      Thanks.

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        Good info.
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          Great article!! The media seems to be more intereseted in John Edwards , rather than report actual news, like an war.
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            Yes, thanks for the link BP and to Mr. Morelock for writing it.

            I read this right after you posted it last night and can't believe it is still the most information I have seen or heard about this event so far.

            This has certainly taken away from the traditional Olympic truce. Bush & Putin obviously aren't communicating very well in Beijing. Unless this is about getting oil prices back up?
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              Great stuff J.D.!!

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                Thanks for the info .
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                • #9
                  Informative article. Helped me get a better idea of the whole deal.
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                  • #10
                    Of the two . . .

                    I liked Jerry's article better. More informative and less partisan than Peters.
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                      Originally posted by Torien View Post
                      Yes, thanks for the link BP and to Mr. Morelock for writing it.

                      I read this right after you posted it last night and can't believe it is still the most information I have seen or heard about this event so far.

                      This has certainly taken away from the traditional Olympic truce. Bush & Putin obviously aren't communicating very well in Beijing. Unless this is about getting oil prices back up?
                      Rather surprisingly, oil is now hovering around 117USD. It's not really going up by that much. I had expected oil prices to jump too, but it's not.

                      One possibility is that the market does not believe that this conflict will be a prolonged one, and that oil flow will not be severely affected.


                      Good point about the Olympic true. I have already mentioned in another thread that China is not happy with Russia because it chooses to humiliate China at the Olympics by launching a war, instead of observing the Olympic truce (which, to be fair, has always been observed more in its breach).


                      And also as I have mentioned in another thread, I believe that Bush had been fooled by Putin when they met in Beijing, with the assurance that Russia was only interested in keeping Georgia out of South Ossetia. That was why he did not make a stronger stance at the beginning. The fact that he is in Beijing at the Olympics, instead of being at the White House with full access to all the national security structure, might also have tempered his response in those crucial first 24 hours.
                      Last edited by Ogukuo72; 11 Aug 08, 22:29.

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                        Map (2 days old). You can see location of Georgias military and places russia bombed. Taken from russian news site http://kommersant.ru
                        http://kommersant.ru/ISSUES.PHOTO/DA...140m-02-01.jpg


                        http://community.livejournal.com/ru_...63.html#cutid1
                        This is Tskhinvali after Georgia tried to take control over the city.

                        http://russiatoday.com/guests/video/1425
                        Joe Mestas, American citizen living in South Ossetia, who witnessed everything happening in the region, talked to RT and blamed U.S. and Georgian leaders for the outbreak of violence

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                          Description for the map:
                          Orange - South Osetia.
                          Planes - airbases and aiports of Geargia
                          Black flags - military bases
                          Red "fires" - places Russia bombed
                          Red line in the middle - oil pipeline

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ogukuo72 View Post
                            ... China is not happy with Russia because it chooses to humiliate China at the Olympics by launching a war...
                            hold on there; it's Georgia that launched it , not Russia .

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                              The War in Georgia Is a War for the West
                              By MIKHEIL SAAKASHVILI August 11, 2008
                              http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1218...glance_opinion

                              Why Russia's response to Georgia was right
                              By Sergei Lavrov August 12 2008
                              http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7863e71a-6...nclick_check=1

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