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  • The Olympiad of stupidity

    Recently, there has been a trend to use Russia's poor performance in the Olympics as a sign and explanation of everything: lack of press freedom, lack of democracy, bad leaders, the economy, the other thing sillier then the other

    Now these, many claiming to be experts or analysts of some kind might be able to explain this to me:

    In the last Winter Olympics where Eastern Germany and the USSR took part, even without being that democratic, or having such a good economy, and maybe even lacking decent leaders pulled this Trick of?

    But alright, let us be fair, perhaps the star was in the right position or the moon had the right distance to Jupiter, how does they Explain the Democratic Chinese performance?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Winter_Olympics
    “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

    Max Sterner

  • #2
    ...Evgeni Plushenko was hard done by by american judges in favor of mediocre Evan Lysachek...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by stalin View Post
      ...Evgeni Plushenko was hard done by by american judges in favor of mediocre Evan Lysachek...
      Koba, maybe the Olympics just uses the same judges over and over and those judges were the same people who reffed the 1972 Olympic Gold medal basketball game.

      Koba, are you excited for the 2014 Olympics in Russia? Since ACG is an international community, would you be interested in starting a travel agency and booking reservations and Olympic tickets for the international people here?
      Also, if all the hotels are already booked up, would you be interested in running a Bed and Breakfast from your house?
      Thank-you in advance for your generous hospitality in making the 2014 Olympics the greatest Olympics ever!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sgt. Rock View Post
        maybe the Olympics just uses the same judges over and over
        No.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by stalin View Post
          ...Evgeni Plushenko was hard done by by american judges in favor of mediocre Evan Lysachek...
          Ok, hold on a second. As far as I can tell around here, the general consensus is the right person won the gold medal.

          Secondly, I don't know about standards of conduct in other places in the world, but from perspective of my country, Plushenko behaved like a boor after the loss. Even if your charges of bias were true, which I dispute, everyone faces bad breaks in judging. How a person deals with that says a lot about their character. Plushenko made a pretty clear statement about HIS character.

          Lest I too be accused of bias, I aim the same criticism at US speed skater Apolo Ohno. If you can't stand human decisions, don't compete in sports that have human judges/referees/umpires.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Erkki View Post
            In the last Winter Olympics where Eastern Germany and the USSR took part, even without being that democratic, or having such a good economy, and maybe even lacking decent leaders pulled this Trick of?
            Lots of official support and money for training, coaches and venues.
            Cheating and drugs.
            Use of professional athletes while claiming amateur status.


            I really don't think that modern day Russia supports its athletes the way the USSR did. Other nations, notably Canada, drastically increased support to athletes.

            Norway is still tops on a per capita basis

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stalin View Post
              ...Evgeni Plushenko was hard done by by american judges in favor of mediocre Evan Lysachek...
              Ice skating has had a cloud over it for awhile was it not in the last winter olympics that one of the judges got caught up in vote selling or something like that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
                Lots of official support and money for training, coaches and venues.
                Cheating and drugs.
                Use of professional athletes while claiming amateur status.
                That may be, but my point was how ridiculous it is to use performance of athletes as an indicator of other aspects of a country

                Cheating you say, can you elaborate on that?

                They was not alone in using drugs, so that doesn´t explain it.
                “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

                Max Sterner

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DingBat View Post
                  Plushenko behaved like a boor after the loss
                  - nope, he behaved like a gentleman in comparison to some Canadian pair of figure skaters at the Olympics in Salt Lake City.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by craven View Post
                    Ice skating has had a cloud over it for awhile
                    but this time everything was clear, Plushenko is the best and Lysachek is mere mediocrity.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stalin View Post
                      - nope, he behaved like a gentleman in comparison to some Canadian pair of figure skaters at the Olympics in Salt Lake City.
                      If you feel you want to call those skaters on their conduct, please be my guest. In what way does it excuse Plushenko's behavior?

                      Plushenko is the best mens figure skater in the world. Unfortunately, he's also an uncultured, arrogant *******.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
                        Lots of official support and money for training, coaches and venues.
                        Cheating and drugs.
                        Use of professional athletes while claiming amateur status.


                        I really don't think that modern day Russia supports its athletes the way the USSR did. Other nations, notably Canada, drastically increased support to athletes.

                        Norway is still tops on a per capita basis
                        In USSR sport activity was subsidized by state, all facilities and coaching was free of charge for all who had a wish to use it. Unlike today difference of families incomes did not mattered much if kids wanted to become athletes. People were having more healthy habits; there was much less drugs addiction and alcohol abuse. Birth rate was higher. Today every year about 50 000 citizens in Russia die from drugs mostly young ones, 3 times more, than losses for 9 years of war in Afghanistan.
                        Today many former stadiums were converted to trade places. In our town House of physical culture where I used to exercise in wrestling during my years in school and university today are shops selling boots, auto spare parts and all such. Several halls there are still available for sport, but price is prohibitive even for me. My daughter excelled in boat rowing, but their club was closed last year. Now we are attending with her fitness club in old little dilapidated place for 20$ per month.
                        Norway is socialist country, while Russia market economy at full height. Oil and gas pipe managers have no need in populace.
                        Last edited by Fareasterner; 12 Mar 10, 10:19.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by stalin View Post
                          - nope, he behaved like a gentleman in comparison to some Canadian pair of figure skaters at the Olympics in Salt Lake City.
                          Do you mean the ones that were cheated out of an undisputed gold medal by collaboration between the Russian and French judges? I don't recall the figure skaters saying or doing anything wrong. They shut up and smiled. It was the fans, media and sport officials who called out the clear and obvious cheating by the Russian and French judges.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stalin View Post
                            but this time everything was clear, Plushenko is the best and Lysachek is mere mediocrity.
                            Koba, do you like the sports coverage from "Pravda" truth and justice? Koba, are you going to be commentating on any of the events in the 2014 Olympics on live television?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
                              Do you mean the ones that were cheated out of an undisputed gold medal by collaboration between the Russian and French judges? I don't recall the figure skaters saying or doing anything wrong. They shut up and smiled. It was the fans, media and sport officials who called out the clear and obvious cheating by the Russian and French judges.
                              The behavior, or lack thereof, of those skaters is irrelevant. stalin is under the impression that if they behaved badly it's ok for Plushenko to do so as well. It's not.

                              As I said before, Plushenko may be the best men's skater in the world, but he is not a gentleman.

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