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  • This is Typical of a Russian Government

    Why am I not surprised at this? The Russian government covered up the murders or two Tsars, Peter III and Paul I, as dying from apoplexy. They didn't even have the imagination to change the excuse.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/Health/oth...cid=spartandhp
    • A doctors' union in Russia has accused authorities of disguising the extent of the country's coronavirus outbreak.
    • A video from the head of the Alliance of Doctors trade union claims that officials are classifying coronavirus deaths as regular pneumonia.
    • It also claims doctors are being made to treat patients without protective gear, risking spreading the disease further.
    • Hospital officials have strongly denied the claims, and suggested the union leader was trying to discredit the medical profession in Russia.
    • So far Russian official figures say there are around 250 coronavirus infections and one death in its population of around 145 million.

    Doctors in Russia say the government is covering up cases of coronavirus in the country, and forcing medical staff to treat infectious patients without protective equipment.

    Anastasia Vasilyeva, head of Russia's Alliance of Doctors trade union, voiced the accusation in a video published on Thursday.

    She called on Russian doctors to go public with information about what she called the "true" state of the coronavirus update in the country.

    "While the whole world is facing an outbreak of a new coronavirus, Russia is facing an outbreak of a community-acquired pneumonia. And as usual we're facing the lie of the authorities," Vasilyeva said.

    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
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  • #2
    Fake news.
    Look at your own backyard.
    Fortess fortuan adiuvat

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    • #3
      So called "union" consists of madam Vasilyeva and a couple of nonames. Needless to say, they didn't provide any substance to their claims. Just another video blogger hyping in essence.

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      • #4
        Any one can see the infection rates right now in NY state to have an understanding that this virus is tearing through the globe and no one is immune. For all we like to make of a outward physical differences we are the same animal inside and this disease loves to feed on us.

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        • #5
          Address the post not the poster
          Do not make this mistake again
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
            So called "union" consists of madam Vasilyeva and a couple of nonames. Needless to say, they didn't provide any substance to their claims. Just another video blogger hyping in essence.
            She has a point still. Russia cannot have so few cases as officially accepted.
            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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            • #7
              Eh, why? Japan close to China reports twice as many cases per similar population size. Indonesia reports roughly the same number of cases per 60 % larger population. India reports the same number of cases per population several times larger. Etc, etc. Countries that are far away from the pandemia center in Western Europe and don't have large traffic with it are not seriously hit yet.

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              • #8
                As for these claims: the simplest way to tell myth from fact is an absence of details. Some doctors allegedly classify coronavirus infection as "usual" pneumonia. Ok, where, in what hospitals, what is their names, what is the names of the patients, how many of them? Was there are any rise of pneumonia cases in Russia recently, and what are exact stats? Unless some verifiable facts are provided there is simply nothing to discuss here. There only real fact I've seen is that in January 2020 about the number of pneumonia cases registered in Moscow was about a thousand higher than in January 2019. Considering that epidemy in China just started in late January its very unlikely that it had something to do with that.

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                • #9
                  Moscow’s mayor, a Putin ally, says coronavirus outbreak in city worse than it looks, report says
                  Sergei Sobyanin, Moscow’s mayor and ally to Russian President Vladimir Putin, said the number of coronavirus cases in his city far exceeds the official numbers, Reuters reported.
                  https://www.foxnews.com/world/moscow...ks-report-says

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OttoHarkaman View Post
                    Moscow’s mayor, a Putin ally, says coronavirus outbreak in city worse than it looks, report says
                    Not because authority conceal them, but because many cases were not detected yet. That, however, applies practically to all countries where this disease spreads. I can bet any money that there are far more "silent" cases in the USA right now.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
                      I can bet any money that there are far more "silent" cases in the USA right now.
                      Oh I agree, I am not saying the Russians have a monopoly on concealing this outbreak. It seems most governments around the world are doing the same. They don't want to admit the world has changed in a bad way in just a couple months.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
                        Eh, why? Japan close to China reports twice as many cases per similar population size. Indonesia reports roughly the same number of cases per 60 % larger population. India reports the same number of cases per population several times larger. Etc, etc. Countries that are far away from the pandemia center in Western Europe and don't have large traffic with it are not seriously hit yet.
                        Russia had a large traffic both with Western Europe and China. Also, the number of tests looks extremely high and suspicious.
                        There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Emtos View Post
                          Russia had a large traffic both with Western Europe and China.
                          Both in case of Italy and China traffic was limited already on the starting phase of epidemy which might have some effect. And China wasn't so strongly affected in relative terms and its most infected areas were far way from a Russian border.
                          Then even a quick glance at infection rate per capita makes one thing obvious: in different countries it varies by several orders of magnitude. So any discussions about "normally expected" number of cases are simply meaningless.
                          https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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                          • #14
                            This is typical of many governments.

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