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  • Artyom_A
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    Russian trolls are going rampant again:
    https://www.insider.com/lady-gaga-ta...a-shayk-2019-7
    https://www.rt.com/news/464383-lady-...ussian-trolls/
    How long will we wait for new American sanctions?

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  • Emtos
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    This private business was actually not private but in the hands of officials.

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  • Artyom_A
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    I would start with the fact that the guy got in trouble when he messed with interests of private business (corrupt cops were just hired guns) and was rescued when high-ranking officials pushed some buttons. A conclusion is that the private business is more dangerous for freedom of media than the government (regardless of what libertarians want us to believe). Another thing is that journalists "criticizing Putin" (as US and British media use to say) are actually more safe than those messing with concrete business interests of some influential people. Finally, the reports of the death of media in Russia are greatly exaggerated. The case demonstrated that these media do exist as an entity possessing group interests, strong cohesion and considerable political influence.
    Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
    Apparently some things have now gone too far in Russia. Good for it there's actually a reaction.
    There is a more cynical version: demonstrative punishment of rogue cops is a good PR and and an easy way to boost government's popularity.
    the Russian courts' 99+% conviction rate
    Discussed about 1000 times already. "Conviction rate" doesn't count cases closed before the final court verdict, like Golunov's case. The number is an artifact of the Russian legal procedure which doesn't indicate anything.

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
    Russian journalists score a victory over police:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48600233
    A very Hollywood-type story with a classical happy ending. I won't be surprised to see a film or even more likely a TV series adaptation.
    The story really is the Russian judicial system – how the police stitched someone up, which should have put said person away quite effectively with the Russian courts' 99+% conviction rate.

    Apparently some things have now gone too far in Russia. Good for it there's actually a reaction.

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  • Artyom_A
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    Russian journalists score a victory over police:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48600233
    A very Hollywood-type story with a classical happy ending. I won't be surprised to see a film or even more likely a TV series adaptation.

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  • Artyom_A
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    Ahaha:
    https://twitter.com/MailOnline/statu...59656817184768
    Ukrainian guys react:
    https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/...72922155036673

    Reality: Dorenko suffered a hear attack while riding a motorcycle. Neither police nor medics have found anything "mysterious" about his deaths. More info:
    https://www.rt.com/russia/458894-dor...t-died-moscow/

    Fellows, remember one simple thing: everything you read about Russia in British media is fake and propaganda. Even US media have some quality in them. British "journalism" is a total junk made by idiots and for idiots.

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  • Emtos
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    US strikes :

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-...=.fb5cec7b3a93

    Russia will answer :

    https://www.dw.com/en/kremlin-aims-t...web/a-47479169

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  • Artyom_A
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    And the story continues:
    https://www.rferl.org/a/meduza-edito.../29591830.html

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  • Artyom_A
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    Harassment scandal, Russian way:
    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2018/11...ndal-at-meduza

    Funny that these bloke don't have this article in Russian.

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  • Artyom_A
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    Three Russian journalist killed in the Central African Republic:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-45025601
    Also some curios info about much-discussed Wagner's mercenaries.

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  • Snowygerry
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    Let's hope it's temporary thing then, not a trend..

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  • Artyom_A
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    That's why asked yes, from previous discussions with Russian posters here I gathered they do not take politics in general and political journalism in particular so serious that they would be inclined to murder for it.
    Murder is too much, but less lethal accidents are possible. See the story of another journalist from the same radio station:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Latynina#Attacks
    (Actually the first attack on her happened 10 years ago when she became a target of tomato-throwing by some eccentric nationalists)
    which provides some contexts for the present disproportional reaction.

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  • Snowygerry
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    Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
    After he was accused of being de-facto an accomplice of the assassination attempt, let's remember that. I guess, they should all take a deep breath and clam down a little. The attacker was a lunatic driven by his twisted mind, there are zero evidences that previous interpersonal quarrels in Russian media somehow triggered him.
    Yes I understand - and there's certainly historical precedent (it's even a phenomenon described in psychological literature iirc) for that, it's hard to believe whoever wrote that quote wouldn't be familiar with the legend of Henry II and the Archbishop of Canterbury

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_n...some_priest%3F

    How to say it to you, in Russia public figures didn't use to restraint their speeches or behaviour in general. At least far less than in Western Europe/USA. The spirit is that you can say what you want and words don't mean a thing. Actually only in the last year something like a public reaction to such mishaps started to develop.
    That's why asked yes, from previous discussions with Russian posters here I gathered they do not take politics in general and political journalism in particular so serious that they would be inclined to murder for it.

    Seems somewhat atypical - in as far as I can judge, obviously.

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  • Artyom_A
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    Who, he says, will shut their [independent journalists’] filthy mouths?
    After he was accused of being de-facto an accomplice of the assassination attempt, let's remember that. I guess, they should all take a deep breath and clam down a little. The attacker was a lunatic driven by his twisted mind, there are zero evidences that previous interpersonal quarrels in Russian media somehow triggered him.
    Or is it accepted as a "normal" part of the political/media game ?
    How to say it to you, in Russia public figures didn't use to restraint their speeches or behavior in general. At least far less than in Western Europe/USA. The spirit is that you can say what you want and words don't mean a thing. Actually only in the last year something like a public reaction to such mishaps started to develop.

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  • Snowygerry
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    Who, he says, will shut their [independent journalists’] filthy mouths?
    An historical echo of a "turbulent priest" there...

    Is this in anyway upsetting to Russian citizens themselves ?

    Or is it accepted as a "normal" part of the political/media game ?

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