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  • Lol. Like all phones in other countries cannot be used by special services like they wish. Even if they user is Merkel.
    There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Idiots

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      • Originally posted by Gorque View Post
        ....
        Good.

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        • That can be done with pretty much any smart phone.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • I guess that sucks for the 7 people that bought that phone...
            Кто там?
            Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
            Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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            • Originally posted by MonsterZero View Post
              Hope this gets noted by the Russian "human rights experts" who like to feed off the Snowden surveillance scandal. Enjoy your phone service Russian friends.
              http://www.phonearena.com/news/Surpr...quired_id69930
              It's what psychologists called Projection. The phenomenon is irrationally saying others are doing things that you are doing yourself.

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              • A recent explosive publication about so-called "teenage suicide groups" in social media:
                https://www.rt.com/news/343246-vkont...icides-report/
                Russian officials launch an investigation regarding groups' administrators, the said groups were blocked:
                http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...up/569939.html

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                • The best thing here is an ability to listen to musik and watch films

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                  • A key Russian media manager dies of heart attack:
                    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nosik.../28604276.html
                    Mr. Nosik can be justly called a godfather of Russian internet media as he launched first high-profile "web-only" media outlets at the edge of 90s/00s.

                    BTW as a common custom Radio Liberty cannot go without some fake news, saying:
                    In 2016, Nosik was fined 300,000 rubles for a blog post in which he criticized Russia's military intervention in the war in Syria and compared the government of President Vladimir Putin to Nazi Germany.
                    In fact Mr. Nosik was sentenced to a fine for a blog post in which he welcomed Russian (as well as any other's) intervention in Syria, compared the Syrian government to a Nazi Germany and called for wiping out Syria with entire population by air strikes and mining all exits from the country. Those Israelis Jews, you know. Why RL is lying so blatantly is beyond my understanding
                    Last edited by Artyom_A; 09 Jul 17, 15:30.

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                    • Originally posted by Artyom_A View Post
                      BTW as a common custom Radio Liberty cannot go without some fake news, saying:

                      In fact Mr. Nosik was sentenced to a fine for a blog post in which he welcomed Russian (as well as any other's) intervention in Syria, compared the Syrian government to a Nazi Germany and called for wiping out Syria with entire population by air strikes and mining all exits from the country. Those Israelis Jews, you know. Why RL is lying so blatantly is beyond my understanding
                      Probably because of human error. Hanlon's Razor - they probably didn't properly translate (or even try to properly translate) an original source, or they just took another party at face value and didn't double-check their sources.

                      Laziness and incompetence are two of the most powerful forces on Earth.

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                      • Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                        Probably because of human error. Hanlon's Razor - they probably didn't properly translate (or even try to properly translate) an original source, or they just took another party at face value and didn't double-check their sources.

                        Laziness and incompetence are two of the most powerful forces on Earth.
                        Of course, just an innocent mistake, like in all the hundreds of similar cases of the Western media writing about Russia. Somehow such mistakes never ever happen to slant the news in the favour of the Russian government or the absolutely overwhelming part of the Russian society which is not ultra-pro-Western, but there's still nothing to see here, move along.
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                        Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

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                        • Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                          Of course, just an innocent mistake, like in all the hundreds of similar cases of the Western media writing about Russia. Somehow such mistakes never ever happen to slant the news in the favour of the Russian government or the absolutely overwhelming part of the Russian society which is not ultra-pro-Western, but there's still nothing to see here, move along.
                          Ah, a great conspiracy then!
                          Wisdom is personal

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                          • Originally posted by Karri View Post
                            Ah, a great conspiracy then!
                            Is Fox News and CNN reporting about US politics a great conspiracy, or bias, insitutionalised and internalised to the degree where facts are thrown under the bus or twisted if they don't fit with the preferred narrative?
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                            Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

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                            • Here is my takedown of an article by NYT: outright lies and lies by omission abound. However, as long it's meant to show Putin in a negative light, all means are good enough. Please tell me all these facts were simply missed out by the author. Yet again. You know, like committing suicide by accidentally stabbing oneself 10 times.


                              https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/w...rmelikhov.html

                              The author, in a nutshell, tells about the sad fate of anti-Soviet fighters, repressed by the Soviet government, tells about repressions against them, while deftly and suavely justifying their cooperation with the Nazis and drawing a moral equivalence between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. As it would take me too long to go through the article and debate this ideology/approach to history point by point, I'll concentrate on false and misleading statements which can be disproved by concrete and easily verifiable facts.

                              "Mr. Melikhov has founded a private museum that is devoted to the memory of the “anti-Bolshevik resistance” and that delves into a singularly taboo topic — why many Cossacks and other persecuted Soviet citizens welcomed, at least initially, Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941."

                              A large number of books written by Soviet collaborationists and about them can be found in all major bookstores and online bookshops, as well as read free online. It's not clear what the author means under the term "taboo"? That the collaborators are not praised and celebrated - but which country does this?

                              "The museum, housed in a three-story building he built himself on his private estate in Podolsk, south of Moscow, makes no attempt to glorify Nazi collaborators."

                              Glorification might be in the eye of the beholder, however according to numerous accounts, the people who directly assisted the Nazis are presented in a quite positive light in this museum. Besides, Melikhov built a 4-meter tall monument to the General Krasnov, (https://i.mycdn.me/image?id=85219365...02hL2DBtU0LJ2M) who wrote the following address on June 22, 1941:

                              "I would like to tell all Cossacks that this war is not against Russia, but against Communists, Yids and their sycophants, who trade in Russian blood. May the Lord help the German Arms and Hitler!"

                              On the other hand, if one counts all the real thieves, murderers and maniacs persecuted by the Soviet regime as its innocent victims, then it definitely makes sense to bemoan the negative publicity of the likes of Krasnov.

                              "They cast themselves as the true heirs of wartime patriots and vilify their foes — like the anticorruption campaigner Aleksei A. Navalny, who orchestrated nationwide protests against the Kremlin last Monday — as sellouts akin to Nazi collaborators."

                              I would agree that the campaign against Navalny is starting to turn into shameless hounding, however I've never heard any direct comparison of him with the Nazis or collaborationists. Or at least it wasn't anywhere near mainstream pro-government press. I've seen several articles where his party's regional office was blasted for cooperating with Melikhov's organisation, but if you hang out with such unsavoury characters, you've got to be ready to suffer the consequences to your public image.

                              “The myth of the Great Patriotic War is the founding myth of contemporary, post-1991 Russia,” said Serhii Plokhii, a Russian-born history professor at Harvard."

                              Well, first of all, every country's national history becomes a myth this way or another. Second, the manipulation with facts in this sentence is truly amazing. The mention of Russian origins of the professor is clearly intended to lend the credence of an insider's knowledge to his opinion. Here's what Wikipedia tells us about him:

                              "Serhii Plokhii was born in Nizhnii Novgorod, Russia to a metallurgical engineer father and a pediatrician mother, both originally from Ukraine. He spent his childhood and school years in Zaporizhia, Ukraine, where his family returned soon after his birth."

                              Suprise, surprise. The devil is in the details, and if the author is so desperate he resorts to such petty cheating, he's got quite a lot to hide for sure.

                              "Mr. Melikhov is not the only one to be singled out. A state committee in Moscow recently vetoed a decision by scholars in St. Petersburg to award a doctoral degree to Kirill Alexandrov, a historian. His dissertation, on the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia, an outfit set up in 1944 with German support to rally opposition to Stalin’s regime, was deemed insufficiently patriotic."

                              While Alexandrov's work was quite blatantly pro-collaborationist, according to many sources, there were enough technical reasons (missing references to archival documents, etc.) to criticise the work. However, what the journalist doesn't say is that the dreaded "State Commission" can only issue recommendations on the dissertations while they are approved by the Presidium of the Higher Attestation Commission of the Academy of Sciences, and it has not made any decisions yet.

                              "A bigger problem, he said, is that any open discussion of the choices Russians made during the war undermines Mr. Putin’s efforts to rally Russia around the heroism of the past and his hostility to the internal and external enemies that the Kremlin presents as besieging the country."

                              Or it can be interpreted as the resistance to the whitewashing of Nazi collaborators who were, in their overwhelming numbers, virulently anti-Semitic and had nothing to do with democracy. If one reads deeper into this complaint, it will sound just like the statements of Neo-Nazis and pro-Confederacy people in the States. The only difference is that the NYT would condemn the latter while supporting their ideological kin out of political expediency of "fighting with Putin's regime". Hardly any different from their support of headchopping "freedom fighters" in the Middle East.

                              The other part of the article tells about Zubov, which is a different topic.
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                              • Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                                Probably because of human error. Hanlon's Razor - they probably didn't properly translate (or even try to properly translate) an original source, or they just took another party at face value and didn't double-check their sources.
                                Radio Liberty is to put it bluntly a propaganda resource and besides the mistake was very politically correct. That's too much a for a simple coincidence. In any case the Nosik's trial was widely discussed, anybody in touch with Russian internal life (and journalist writing about Russia must be in touch) should remember it.

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