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  • Russia Bans Some Internet Memes That Mock Public Figures

    Russia Bans Some Internet Memes That Mock Public Figures

    NPR's Robert Siegel interviews Kevin Rothrock, who wrote the article, "The Kremlin has declared war on memes" for Global Voices and Quartz. He talks about the Russian ruling banning the use of a public figure's image in a meme if it has nothing to do with the celebrity's "personality."
    NPR - Link

    Russia’s (non) war on memes?

    Despite what some have reported, Vladimir Putin did not actually "ban memes" earlier this week. So what actually happened?

    Posting a meme on social media is supposed to be all fun and games, right? Not so in Russia. Events there last week led to headlines like "Russia's war on memes" and "Putin bans memes". But the truth is a bit more complicated.

    The headlines came after Roskomnadzor (Russia's state internet regulator) posted a status update about the law on their page on popular Russian social network Vkontakte on 7 April. Far from banning all memes, as some reported, it actually had a meme on it. (For those who don't know, a meme is usually a digitally edited image with text - this one had a picture of the Morpheus character from the Matrix films, with the words "What If I Told You ... That You Are Fake").

    So what was the post actually saying? It seems to have been a restatement of Russia's relatively restrictive laws when it comes to parodying public figures on social media. It included an reminder that the law prohibits "using a photo of a public figure to embody a popular internet meme which has nothing to do with the celebrity's personality."
    BBC - Full Article

    Russia wants to ban internet memes that mock Vladimir Putin

    The Russian government has banned memes that “do not represent the personality" of the celebrities they mock. Which of course has nothing to do with Vladimir Putin.

    The government watchdog Roskomnadzor, said in a post on Russian social media site VKontake: “These ways of using celebrities images violate the laws governing personal data and harm the honour, dignity and business of public figures.”

    The recent clarification on meme law was ordered by a Moscow judge who presided over a case involving Russian singer Valeri Syutkin.

    Syutkin, a singer of romantic ballads apparently targeted because of his gentle persona, had his image posted in a meme with the acronym BBPE, standing for “Beio Babu Po Ebalu,” roughly translating as “Smack the b**ch in face.”

    According to the newspaper Izvestia, Syutkin’s mother persuaded him to take the case to court.
    Independent - Full Article

    Russia just made a ton of Internet memes illegal

    In post-Soviet Russia, you don’t make memes. Memes make (or unmake?) you.

    That is, at least, the only conclusion we can draw from an announcement made this week by Russia’s three-year-old media agency/Internet censor Roskomnadzor, which made it illegal to publish any Internet meme that depicts a public figure in a way that has nothing to do with his “personality.”

    Sad Keanu? Nope.

    Sad Putin? Absolutely not.

    “These ways of using [celebrities’ images] violate the laws governing personal data and harm the honor, dignity and business of public figures,” reads the policy announcement from Roskomnadzor.

    To be clear, this isn’t a new law passed by parliament or anything — it’s just a (pretty startling) clarification of existing policy, published to the popular social network Vkontakte. According to Russian media, the announcement came in light of a lawsuit filed by the Russian singer Valeri Syutkin, who sued an irreverent Wikipedia-style culture site over an image macro that paired his picture with some less-than-tasteful lyrics from another artist’s song. On Tuesday, a Moscow judge ruled for Syutkin, prompting the Roskomnadzor to publish an update to its “personal data laws.”
    Washington Post - Full Article

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    • And yet on my VK feed I see no less than 10 Putin memes.
      Кто там?
      Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
      Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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      • Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
        And yet on my VK feed I see no less than 10 Putin memes.
        I'm assuming at the moment that it's like the law banning transgendered drivers - the defense will be "hey, we're not actually enforcing it so it doesn't matter".

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        • Ofc there is no such bans as stated in those BS articles.

          but,knock yourself out and enjoy.
          Fortess fortuan adiuvat

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          • Originally posted by hawker_gb View Post
            Ofc there is no such bans as stated in those BS articles.

            but,knock yourself out and enjoy.
            Instead of an outright ban on memes, it was actually a recommendation or warning, says BBC Monitoring's Olga Bugorkova, concerning memes that particularly damage a public figure's reputation. If an individual does post an offending meme, they would be asked to remove it or face a lawsuit. There were other restrictions outlined in the post - for example it's against the law to open a fake parody account of a public figure on social media. So certain types of memes and internet content are certainly restricted - but the post certainly wasn't banning memes.
            To be clear, this isn’t a new law passed by parliament or anything — it’s just a (pretty startling) clarification of existing policy, published to the popular social network Vkontakte. According to Russian media, the announcement came in light of a lawsuit filed by the Russian singer Valeri Syutkin, who sued an irreverent Wikipedia-style culture site over an image macro that paired his picture with some less-than-tasteful lyrics from another artist’s song. On Tuesday, a Moscow judge ruled for Syutkin, prompting the Roskomnadzor to publish an update to its “personal data laws.”
            And here is the original post by the Roskomnadzor.

            It's a reminder of an existing law saying they can be taken to court for the posting of memes, so it's "banned" in the same way a state would "ban" other forms of slander and libel.

            Or is slander not banned in Russia?

            And here's a Russian article about the case that prompted this friendly reminder.

            Москва, 7 апреля. По решению Мещанского суда Москвы распространенный в сети мем «ББПЕ» с фотографией российского певца Валерия Сюткина и нецензурной подписью должен быть удален со страниц интернет-энциклопедии «Луркоморье» (Lurkmore). Таким образом суд удовлетворил иск Роскомнадзора, который представлял певца в суде.

            В течение следующих 30 дней Lurkmore должен удалить мем с портретом Сюткиным или Роскомнадзор внесет страницу ресурса в единый реестр запрещенной информации (что он делает, впрочем, регулярно, по разным поводам).
            Source

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            • And in a nutshell, one guy sued a popular meme-pedia website for posting a meme which he considered slanderous. So much for "Putin banning memes"/ The singer Syutkin built his stage image as a somewhat old-fashioned and romantic ladies' man, and the words "Smash Chicks in their [f..g] Mugs" looked rather funny in the context. He used to be popular in the 90's and his songs are still played on radio often enough to be recognised by the younger people who care about memes and such.
              www.histours.ru

              Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

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              • Originally posted by ShAA View Post
                And in a nutshell, one guy sued a popular meme-pedia website for posting a meme which he considered slanderous. So much for "Putin banning memes"/ The singer Syutkin built his stage image as a somewhat old-fashioned and romantic ladies' man, and the words "Smash Chicks in their [f..g] Mugs" looked rather funny in the context. He used to be popular in the 90's and his songs are still played on radio often enough to be recognised by the younger people who care about memes and such.
                I give up on explaing or translating Russian to westerners.

                Remember that case on this very forum when they scream after somebody smart translate Putins words as "we will hide behind woman and childrens..."?

                Its easy to manipulate folks which dont know language.
                Fortess fortuan adiuvat

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                • Originally posted by hawker_gb View Post
                  I give up on explaing or translating Russian to westerners.

                  Remember that case on this very forum when they scream after somebody smart translate Putins words as "we will hide behind woman and childrens..."?

                  Its easy to manipulate folks which dont know language.
                  Even easier when the manipulation is what the want to hear.
                  Кто там?
                  Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                  Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                  • What's a meme?
                    "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                    • If he could only ban the Internet his caricature of a totalitarian regime would perhaps stand a chance of surviving.

                      Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post

                      "Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a ugly brawl."
                      --Frederick II, King of Prussia

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                      • Russian Siri is a Homophobe!

                        Does anyone here have Russian Siri? Ever heard of this from someone in Russia before this happened to the Russian guy in Britain? Any news or complaints about this in situation?

                        A video posted earlier this week showing a conversation in Russian between Siri and a man who identifies himself as Alex has now been widely shared on YouTube and Reddit. Here's a translation:

                        Alex: "Siri, gay clubs around me?
                        Siri: "I would have turned red (blushed) if I could."
                        Alex: "How to register a gay marriage in the UK?"
                        Siri: [Silence]
                        Alex: "How to register a gay marriage in the UK?"
                        Siri: "I will pretend I haven't heard it."



                        You get the idea.

                        http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32308428
                        Flag: USA / Location: West Coast

                        Prayers.

                        BoRG

                        http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8757/snap1ws8.jpg

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PtsX_Z3CMU

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                        • Both myself in accented Russian and my wife in native Russian asked Siri the exact same questions with the same words he said. We imedietly got plenty of Internet search results. Oddly enough one of them was a link to that story among other things such as websites for clubs or articles on gay marriage in England written in Russian.

                          He is manipulating Siri somehow and this is just something to push an agenda.
                          Кто там?
                          Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                          Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                          • By the way, have not installed any updates since before this vid was published.
                            Кто там?
                            Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
                            Tunis is a Carthigenian city!

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                            • They should ask Siri to "pop a fag"
                              www.histours.ru

                              Siege of Leningrad battlefield tour

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                              • Russian YotaPhone Has FSB Spy Software

                                Hope this gets noted by the Russian "human rights experts" who like to feed off the Snowden surveillance scandal. Enjoy your phone service Russian friends.

                                Hey, color us surprised: the Russian YotaPhone, an Android smartphone best known for having a secondary rear-facing e-ink display in addition to the regular color front display, has another special feature: a backdoor that the former KGB (now known as FSB, or Federal Security Service) can use to spy on customers' private affairs.
                                http://www.phonearena.com/news/Surpr...quired_id69930


                                "Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a ugly brawl."
                                --Frederick II, King of Prussia

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