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    Russia 'sending warships to Syria'

    Russia is preparing to send two amphibious assault ships to the Syrian port of Tartus according to the Interfax news agency.

    he move is seen as an attempt to ensure the safety of Russian nationals stationed at the strategic naval base Moscow operates on Syria's Mediterranean coast.


    An unidentified officer confirmed that "Two major amphibious ships – The Nikolai Filchenkov and The Tsezar Kunikov – are preparing to be dispatched to Tartus outside of their schedule."
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    I would like to talk to Mr Unidentified as he seem to talk a lot of nonsense

    Russian "Syria arms" Ship docks at Novorossiysk


    A Russian warship which some media reports claimed was carrying arms destined for Syria has arrived at the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk on Friday, a spokesman said.
    The Nikolai Filchenkov, an amphibious ship, was en route from the Crimean port of Sevastopol, Black Sea Fleet spokesman Vyacheslav Trukhachev told RIA Novosti.
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    “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

    Max Sterner

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    Russia Won´t let the EU search it´s ships

    Russia says it will not cooperate with new EU sanctions which allow searching all vessels suspected of delivering weapons to Syria. Moscow warned it will not consent to inspections of ships traveling under its flag.
    *"We will not consider requests and give consent to the search of ships sailing under the Russian flag, nor to the use of other restrictive measures," the statement released by Russia’s Foreign Ministry on Saturday reads.
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    “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

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    • #3
      Unsurprising really, in international waters, such acts are usually termed, 'Piracy.'

      Doing this kind of thing in somebody else's territorial waters is a declaration of war - anybody with a pair would strenuously object to such behaviour.
      Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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      • #4
        To make this stick the EU would have to go from the PC term 'sanctions' to an explicit blockade of Syria. An act of war.

        I just don't see that happening.
        Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

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        • #5
          Smart Russia, veryyyyyyyg smart.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by the ace View Post
            Unsurprising really, in international waters, such acts are usually termed, 'Piracy.'

            Doing this kind of thing in somebody else's territorial waters is a declaration of war - anybody with a pair would strenuously object to such behaviour.
            Act not declaration. Sorry, big pet peeve of mine when people mix up the two words.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by WWIIWWIpilot View Post
              Smart Russia, veryyyyyyyg smart.
              The EU has no real authority to enforce their sanctions with countries outside of the EU. So not letting a foreign power dictate national policy to them is smart.
              Кто там?
              Это я - Почтальон Печкин!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
                Act not declaration. Sorry, big pet peeve of mine when people mix up the two words.
                You're perfectly correct, Stryker. I should've said, 'Tantamount to a declaration of war,' but it was very late at night.
                Indyref2 - still, "Yes."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stryker 19K30 View Post
                  The EU has no real authority to enforce their sanctions with countries outside of the EU.
                  AFAIK EU decision pertains only to EU waters and airports on EU soil. Moreover only cargo airlift are to be controlled, not passengers flights.

                  "BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union is set to tighten its arms embargo on Syria by ordering the boarding of ships and planes in EU waters and airports suspected of carrying weapons for use against opponents of President Bashar al-Assad, an EU diplomat said on Thursday."

                  http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...eign-ministers

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                  • #10
                    Russia Sends Humanitarian Aid to Syria

                    A Russian Emergencies and Civil Defense Ministry plane on Saturday delivered about 25 metric tons of humanitarian aid to Syria, mainly medicines, the ministry said.
                    In September, Russia sent some 80 metric tons of humanitarian aid to Syria, including canned food, sugar, baby food, blankets and tents.
                    RIA
                    “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

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                    • #11
                      Russia and the situation in Syria

                      Navy Sends Ships to Med for Possible Evacuation





                      MOSCOW — A Russian navy squadron has set off for the Mediterranean amid official talk about a possible evacuation of Russians from Syria.
                      The Defense Ministry said Tuesday that the ships would rotate with those that have been in the area since November. Russian diplomats said last week that Moscow is preparing plans to evacuate thousands of Russians from Syria if necessary. The ministry did not say whether the navy ships are intended for an evacuation.
                      The Interfax news agency, citing unidentified naval sources, reported that the navy command wants the ships to be on hand for the task if needed. It said the mission’s duration would depend on the situation in Syria.
                      Last week, a senior Russian diplomat said for the first time that Syrian President Bashar Assad is losing control and the rebels might win the civil war, a statement that appeared to signal that Moscow has started positioning itself for an endgame in Syria. But the Foreign Ministry disavowed Mikhail Bogdanov’s statement the next day, saying his words were misinterpreted and that Moscow’s position on the crisis hasn’t shifted.

                      Russia’s base in the Syrian port of Tartus is its only naval outpost outside the former Soviet Union. Moscow has been Assad’s main ally, shielding him from international sanctions over a brutal crackdown on an uprising that began in March 2011 and turned into the civil war, killing more than 40,000 people.
                      The squadron of five ships that sailed from the Baltic Sea base of Baltiysk includes a destroyer, a tugboat, a tanker and two large amphibious vessels that could evacuate hundreds of people.

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                      • #12
                        Sadly this bloody mess looks like is not going away. There are too many interested parties in keeping this conflict going. From a geopolitical point of view, this is going to cause some (understatement?) estrangement between Russia and Turkey.
                        Last edited by Nickuru; 21 Dec 12, 05:53. Reason: syntax
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                        • #13
                          Actually I find the position of Russia vis-a-vis the Syrian conflict a lot more realistic and balanced than that of the West.

                          Assad's regime admittedly is murderous but it may be preferable over any other realistic option that currently presents itself.
                          BoRG

                          You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in You - Leon Trotski, June 1919.

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                          • #14
                            Russian Military Denies Sending Commandos to Syria

                            MOSCOW, December 24 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian Defense Ministry denied on Monday media rumors about sending commando units, air defense systems operators and military equipment to Syria.

                            “No decisions to send commandos on board Russian warships [to Syria] have been made,” Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov told reporters in Moscow.

                            He added that Russia had not sent air defense systems operators to Syria either.

                            “It’s all nonsense…and media speculation,” Antonov said.

                            RIA
                            “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

                            Max Sterner

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                            • #15
                              Assad’s Chances to Keep Power “Smaller and Smaller” - Medvedev

                              MOSCOW, January 27 (RIA Novosti) – Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Sunday Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has made a “grave, possibly fatal mistake" and his chances of retaining power are getting "smaller and smaller" every day.

                              “President Assad has made a mistake while carrying out political reforms. He should have done everything much faster, attracting part of the moderate opposition, which was ready to sit at the table with him to his side," Medvedev said in an interview with CNN.

                              "This was his grave mistake, and possibly a fatal one," the Russian prime minister said.

                              "I think that with every day, every week and every month the chances of him retaining power are getting smaller and smaller," Medvedev said. "But I repeat again, this must be decided by the Syrian people. Not Russia, not the United States, not any other country,” he said.

                              RIA
                              “For there is nothing more serious than a lunatic when he comes to the central point of his lunacy.”

                              Max Sterner

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