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  • #31
    If the ship dies, at least, she took none of the crew with her.


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    • #32
      Originally posted by Achtung Baby View Post

      Might not be viable, she's already halfway through her expected service life, been in maintenance for two years costing $250 million. Assessing the damage will take a long time, and considering how much structural damage she seems to have on the superstructure she may even need a dry dock. Could be several years before we see her in action. The navy has been considering the idea of extending the service life of the Wasp class, from 40 years to between 46 and 53 years... but I'm not sure if that is still current planning.
      It might be more prudent to salvage what they can and keep the other ships in the class going longer.
      Sounds like another artificial reef, coming up.
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      • #33
        You'd like that, now wouldn't you?
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        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
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        • #34
          Some interior pics. Looks like she’s too far gone.

          https://m.imgur.com/gallery/xup5VBY

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          • #35
            On Day 4, Fire Crews on USS Bonhomme Richard Battle Hot Spots and Flare Ups

            SAN DIEGO, Calif. – More than 300 sailors and firefighters continued to battle hot spots as part of the ongoing efforts to extinguish fires and flareups inside the skin of amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6), as efforts enter the fourth day, Navy officials said.

            Throughout the day, fire boats continued to pour water on the hull and superstructure as smoke rose in several places of the ship. Onboard firefighting crews worked to reach interior spaces, where hot spots continued to dog their efforts. Navy helicopters with the “Merlins” of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 3 made “a few hundred” water drops on Wednesday onto the ship, berthed at Pier 2 at Naval Base San Diego, Brian O’Rourke, a Navy Region Southwest spokesman, told USNI News.

            Late Wednesday local time, personnel were pulled from the fight due to the ship listing.

            “Out of an abundance of caution the pier and ship were cleared of personnel due to an initial shift in the ship’s list. Personnel are now pier side. We will continue to monitor as the ship settles,” read a Navy statement.




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            • #36
              Related article about sister ship;

              Bataan Amphibious Ready Group, 26th MEU Return From 7-Month Deployment

              USS Bataan (LHD-5) transits the Strait of Gibraltar on June 27, 2020. US Navy Photo

              The more than 4,000 sailors and Marines of the Bataan Amphibious Ready Group and the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit wrapped up a seven-month deployment to Europe and the Middle East, the Navy and Marines announced this week.

              The 26th MEU returned to Camp Lejeune, N.C., over the weekend, offloading from USS Bataan (LHD-5), USS Oak Hill (LSD-51) and USS New York (LPD-21) after spending more than 150 consecutive days at sea.
              ......
              https://news.usni.org/2020/07/15/bat...nth-deployment




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              • #37
                The aircraft carriers that caught fire off the coast of Vietnam in the 1960s were all repaired and sent back to the fleet. Unless the Bon Homme Richard's damage is worse than theirs was, I don't see why she cannot be repaired and put back to sea.
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                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                  With the fire burning through the flight deck, I'm thinking the bulkheads are also weakened. I really can't see them putting additional funding to bring her back up to the point where she can operate F-35s. Especially with the America class ships on the way....

                  Also need to take in account of the new direction that the Marine Corps is going; no tanks, fewer cannons, fewer infantry battalions.

                  Something else, if history has a lesson to be taught..... Two Essex class carriers were severely damaged; Franklin & Bunker Hill. Those were the only 2 carriers that weren't recommissioned during the cold war.
                  Regarding the flight deck being ready for the F-35s, I’ve read she was to be the third ship capable of operating them. The next ship was to be set aside for a similar two year downtime for the upgrade, so that will make an impact on the fleet structure.
                  "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
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                  • #39
                    And the fire is out!

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                    • #40
                      If it is true that the fire started in the lower V deck....and it obviously made it to the flight deck and superstructure....I don't see how she can be saved.

                      The major 'oh boy' was that the fire suppression system was turned off. That plus the usual shipyard maintenance where all hatches are open and a minimal crew present....

                      She is toast unfortunately.
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                      • #41
                        It is times like this when you wish you could insure Naval Vessels.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Nichols View Post
                          The major 'oh boy' was that the fire suppression system was turned off.
                          What is the rationale behind this de-activation practice?
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                          • #43
                            How would you power the fire suppression system without the engines on? Running a cable to shore would get a lot of power, but I would not hook it to a California utility.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                              How would you power the fire suppression system without the engines on? Running a cable to shore would get a lot of power, but I would not hook it to a California utility.

                              Pruitt
                              Fires happening while repairs, maintenance or renovation would be relatively common.
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                              • #45
                                A few more pics. Imagine trying to rewire an entire ship, inspect all the plumbing and remove buckled bulkheads.

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                                Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?

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