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  • #16
    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    What problem do you think? Street gangs, rampant drug abuse, generational poverty, high rates of out of wedlock childbirth, high crime rates.
    You didn't specify anything and I'm not going to assume. Drug use is far more rampant in the white population, per capita. The problem is, blacks are treated differently for the same crime.

    So, whites use illegal drugs at a far higher rate, but blacks are arrested and punished for drug offensives more often. Without veering too deep into that subject, we can just chalk it up as another example of white privilege and systemic racism.

    https://www.naadac.org/assets/2416/k...es_ac17ho8.pdf
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377408/
    https://www.hamiltonproject.org/char...iminal_justice

    Let's end the systemic racism and see where the chips fall. With that, whatever happens, happens. As long as we're all playing by the same rules, that's all that matters.

    Not being married doesn't impede a couples ability from creating a stable home. Being married is no guarantee that the couple will have a healthy home. It isn't marriage that suddenly creates a strong relationship.

    Overall, an anomaly you found doesn't warrant being generalized.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

      You didn't specify anything and I'm not going to assume. Drug use is far more rampant in the white population, per capita. The problem is, blacks are treated differently for the same crime.

      So, whites use illegal drugs at a far higher rate, but blacks are arrested and punished for drug offensives more often. Without veering too deep into that subject, we can just chalk it up as another example of white privilege and systemic racism.

      https://www.naadac.org/assets/2416/k...es_ac17ho8.pdf
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2377408/
      https://www.hamiltonproject.org/char...iminal_justice

      Let's end the systemic racism and see where the chips fall. With that, whatever happens, happens. As long as we're all playing by the same rules, that's all that matters.

      Not being married doesn't impede a couples ability from creating a stable home. Being married is no guarantee that the couple will have a healthy home. It isn't marriage that suddenly creates a strong relationship.

      Overall, an anomaly you found doesn't warrant being generalized.
      White street gangs are piling up bodies on the streets of Chicago are they?
      Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

        White street gangs are piling up bodies on the streets of Chicago are they?
        They certainly were, until the feds stepped in and put an end to it.

        Although, I'm not sure how you confused research on drug use with street gangs.

        Post edited to remove personally focused content.
        Please refrain from doing this, thank you.
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        Last edited by panther3485; 13 Jul 20, 21:48.
        "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
        - Benjamin Franklin

        The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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        • #19
          In my opinion, and anecdotal experience, the issue of fatherless children is exaggerated. This is due to welfare systems put in place to support single parents. In Ireland we have a situation where the father of the children buys a house and the mother gets welfare support to rent it from him. As long as his name isn't on the birth cert and he gets his mail sent to a different house they generally get away with it.
          That abuse is galling but it is a price we pay as a society to support the majority who do need the support and don't abuse the system. The result is higher levels of educational achievement, higher rates of social mobility, lower rates of poverty and lower rates of crime. The waste on the prevention side is far outweighed by the saving of not having a large prison population and higher numbers of police.
          "The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot confirm their
          validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post
            In my opinion, and anecdotal experience, the issue of fatherless children is exaggerated. This is due to welfare systems put in place to support single parents. In Ireland we have a situation where the father of the children buys a house and the mother gets welfare support to rent it from him. As long as his name isn't on the birth cert and he gets his mail sent to a different house they generally get away with it.
            That abuse is galling but it is a price we pay as a society to support the majority who do need the support and don't abuse the system. The result is higher levels of educational achievement, higher rates of social mobility, lower rates of poverty and lower rates of crime. The waste on the prevention side is far outweighed by the saving of not having a large prison population and higher numbers of police.
            Here, the fathers don't buy anything, We have housing projects where the single parent families live, these are usually very large apartment complexes, several of them covering several city blocks.
            This may help explain how the projects became a breeding ground for gangs.
            Learn how urban blight gave way to gangs, bordellos and drug trade in the heart of Chicago. Relive the bleak past of the Chicago Housing Projects.
            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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