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  • #16
    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Biden stated he would put Beto O'Rourke in charges of his administrations gun policy.
    That is far left, Beto said during the primary, he would use force, to confiscate law abiding gun owners firearms ,
    Yeah Comrade,
    Not entirely true:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/or...ns-gun-policy/

    Obviously you're going to be hard pressed to find any democrat that's not in favor of stricter gun laws. That's not what defines someone as far left. Far left would be UBI, significantly anti-war, significant dismantling of police forces, distancing from Israel, government control of corporations and general anarchism as a handful of examples. Biden is not even in favor of defunding police. So, how is that far left? Biden can barely be classified as a progressive, though if you ask many democrats they would argue he isn't even that. Biden is just slightly left of center.
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    • #17
      I remember the anti war protests, the Weather Underground, the Red Brigade, The Black Panthers and all the other lunatics of the 60s and 70s. When they quit throwing bombs they became teachers and warped your kids minds. What did you expect was going to happen when cultural Marxism became a "conspiracy theory"?
      We hunt the hunters

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      • #18
        It's a bit hypocritical to claim to fight against racism but then embrace it when it suits you.

        https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/james-..._14635896.html

        Has BLM ever denounced her or her message?
        You'll live, only the best get killed.

        -General Charles de Gaulle

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        • #19
          Originally posted by asterix View Post
          It's a bit hypocritical to claim to fight against racism but then embrace it when it suits you.

          https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/james-..._14635896.html

          Has BLM ever denounced her or her message?
          So who speaks for the BLM as a whole to be able to even do that? I mean, who do you think should stand up and denounce her message?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

            Biden stated he would put Beto O'Rourke in charges of his administrations gun policy.
            That is far left, Beto said during the primary, he would use force, to confiscate law abiding gun owners firearms ,
            Yeah Comrade,
            If far-leftism looks like an election winner; I think we can assume Biden will go there. But only if that's where the majority of the US wants to head.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
              If far-leftism looks like an election winner; I think we can assume Biden will go there. But only if that's where the majority of the US wants to head.
              Or, people will hold their nose and vote for him hoping the Republicans in the Senate will keep him in line and pray the Republicans take back power in the House in the next Midterms.
              Thats a bet I wouldn't take.
              Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
                So who speaks for the BLM as a whole to be able to even do that? I mean, who do you think should stand up and denounce her message?
                Why not the whole movement? Wait a minute...it's the hard left who have been saying all along, that when there is a bad apple in an organization, then that entire organization is tainted and corrupt. Are you now suggesting they should be exempt from the same collective scrutiny?
                You'll live, only the best get killed.

                -General Charles de Gaulle

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                  I remember the anti war protests, the Weather Underground, the Red Brigade, The Black Panthers and all the other lunatics of the 60s and 70s. When they quit throwing bombs they became teachers and warped your kids minds. What did you expect was going to happen when cultural Marxism became a "conspiracy theory"?
                  And one of the Weathermen, who celebrated killing policemen, became the neighbor and close friend of President Obama.

                  Meanwhile, Black Panthers today give lectures, write books, block voting sites and and make movies about themselves.

                  It's a strange new world...
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                    Here we go, put policing into the hands of community leaders,,,
                    Woman is brutally murdered after community leader suggests citizens settle disputes without calling police
                    This absolutely could have been avoided
                    ...
                    A Brooklyn woman is dead after she reportedly attempted to settle a dispute with a group of people without the help of the New York City police.

                    According to the New York Post, 33-year-old Shatavia Walls approached a group of people who were reportedly illegally setting off fireworks on July 4.

                    Walls, according to her mother, was "just following the advice of Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams," who suggested citizens settle disputes through "community policing," and without the aid of trained law enforcement officials.

                    Walls approached the group, and asked them to stop firing off the explosives in the area in which children were playing.

                    This apparently didn't sit well with the group, as at least one person from the group reportedly began to chase Walls with a gun, and shot at her while she sought safety in her mother's apartment building.

                    Walls, who was not injured at the time, was able to recover the shell casing as well as the suspect's driver's license, which was dropped while fleeing.
                    ...
                    Adams has repeatedly called for citizens to mediate nonviolent disputes without the help of police in order to cut down on the amount of police-on-citizen crimes.

                    "Stopping fireworks cannot turn into fireworks between the police and the community," Adams said in June remarks directed at increasing complaints of illegal fireworks detonations. "We want a good community response to dealing with a nuisance. ... This is a non-violent act, so those three numbers that we all dial — 911 — get over that."

                    "She watched the news," Testagros, Walls' mother, told the outlet of her daughter's decision to confront the group. "Yes, she heard it. It was probably in the back of her mind. It's not a good idea. You don't know who you are approaching. These kids are not respectful anymore. ... They're more ruthless."

                    She added that the suspect fired shots at her daughter until the gun's chamber was depleted.

                    "[Walls] was on the ground shot. And [the suspect] kept shooting until the gun went 'click, click, click,'" she recalled.
                    ....
                    https://www.theblaze.com/news/woman-...t%20270%20days
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                    • #25
                      Goes to show what little trust these communities have for law enforcement (for good reason), yet what has been done to change that? Nothing.
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                        Goes to show what little trust these communities have for law enforcement (for good reason), yet what has been done to change that? Nothing.
                        And yet they are the first to demand law enforcement when they need it.

                        And closing foreign bases? What is that all about?
                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                          Woman is brutally murdered after community leader suggests citizens settle disputes without calling police
                          This absolutely could have been avoided
                          ...
                          A Brooklyn woman is dead after she reportedly attempted to settle a dispute with a group of people without the help of the New York City police.

                          According to the New York Post, 33-year-old Shatavia Walls approached a group of people who were reportedly illegally setting off fireworks on July 4.

                          Walls, according to her mother, was "just following the advice of Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams," who suggested citizens settle disputes through "community policing," and without the aid of trained law enforcement officials.

                          Walls approached the group, and asked them to stop firing off the explosives in the area in which children were playing.

                          This apparently didn't sit well with the group, as at least one person from the group reportedly began to chase Walls with a gun, and shot at her while she sought safety in her mother's apartment building.

                          Walls, who was not injured at the time, was able to recover the shell casing as well as the suspect's driver's license, which was dropped while fleeing.
                          ...
                          Adams has repeatedly called for citizens to mediate nonviolent disputes without the help of police in order to cut down on the amount of police-on-citizen crimes.

                          "Stopping fireworks cannot turn into fireworks between the police and the community," Adams said in June remarks directed at increasing complaints of illegal fireworks detonations. "We want a good community response to dealing with a nuisance. ... This is a non-violent act, so those three numbers that we all dial — 911 — get over that."

                          "She watched the news," Testagros, Walls' mother, told the outlet of her daughter's decision to confront the group. "Yes, she heard it. It was probably in the back of her mind. It's not a good idea. You don't know who you are approaching. These kids are not respectful anymore. ... They're more ruthless."

                          She added that the suspect fired shots at her daughter until the gun's chamber was depleted.

                          "[Walls] was on the ground shot. And [the suspect] kept shooting until the gun went 'click, click, click,'" she recalled.
                          ....
                          https://www.theblaze.com/news/woman-...t%20270%20days
                          I'm confused by the contradictions. Was she or was she not killed? According to the news report, she was not, and recovered the brass and the assailant's license, so when was she shot?
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                            I'm confused by the contradictions. Was she or was she not killed? According to the news report, she was not, and recovered the brass and the assailant's license, so when was she shot?
                            Per forum rule on copyright protections, I(we) cannot quote full text of articles/links. I usually quote excerpts and when these are separated by other text, a gap, I insert this " ... ";

                            So, .... if you click the link and read the full text of the article linked, you will read that the young woman had a second encounter with the same "yoouts" a couple days later and that is when the one that first chased her and shot at her did so again, this time killing her. Click, click,click ....
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                            “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                              Goes to show what little trust these communities have for law enforcement (for good reason), yet what has been done to change that? Nothing.
                              If this is in reference to the the post (#24) preceding, the quick summary is this;

                              Young punks are setting off illegal fireworks.
                              Local young woman, instead of calling police to come and deal with the matter, follows advice of the local "community organizer" and confronts the youths herself.
                              One of these "upstanding young citizens" pulls a pistol (odds are he is underage and not legal to possess such) and starts to chase her and shoot at her.
                              Fortunately he misses, somehow she recovers spent ammo casings and the "yoouts" ID.

                              A couple days later this same group of young males are again setting off illegal fireworks, ...
                              ... again this young women asks them to stop (has chosen not to involve the police in the matter).
                              This time the lad packing the pistol fires again multiple times, hits and kills the young woman, shooting into her fallen body until the weapon is empty ... click, click, click.

                              You are right. Members of "this community" continue to chose unlawful behavior, continue to attack and kill other members of their community, continue to, as her mother pointed out:
                              "...You don't know who you are approaching. These kids are not respectful anymore. ... They're more ruthless." "

                              If it will ever change, it will have to start with a change of mind, attitude, and conduct by those whom repeat this low value of others' lives, repeat the engage of assaults, illegal activities, and crimes.

                              After decades of "rinse and repeat" it would seem those that need to change, won't change, so "nothing" positive is being done, other than an occasional "recycle of karma", which at this point there may need to be a bit more of with regard to the resident thugs.
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                              “War is merely the continuation of politics by other means” - von Clausewitz
                              Present Current Events are the Future's History

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                                And yet they are the first to demand law enforcement when they need it.

                                And closing foreign bases? What is that all about?
                                You say in response to a situation where the person did not call the cops.

                                Trust me, this is nothing new. Black people only call the cops in extreme circumstances. So no, I disagree that they're the first to demand law enforcement.
                                "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                                - Benjamin Franklin

                                The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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