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  • Half Pint John
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    Nobody left alive could scalpe Trump? Lowes has a special on axes, so I cut to close.

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    Haven't we all

    Now if the Lakota were to scalp Trump
    No one is left alive that has the skills to scalp that. If a task force of intertribal elders, witch doctors and shamans can achieve that feat, the scalp will only cause a huge kerfuffle because all that view that scalp will have a theory of what animal or even Bigfoot that the pelt was taken from.

    and take his wives
    Ivana and Marla was sold of years ago to the Five Nations of Iroquois. It used to called the Iroquois Confederation, but then the world Confederation became a hindrance with those down with the movement.

    and cattle,
    Trump have no cattle now and never did have any. Contrary to the reasoning of simpletons, he also owned no slaughtering house or meat processing and packaging. Trump Steaks was just a licensed branding which he made tons of money from despite idiots telling you Trump Steaks was a loser. He got his money from lending his name. He owned nada. I asked some idiot recently what happened to the rest of the product from Trump's cattle. No reply yet after a month. It sucks for fall for TDS hysteria on a regular basis.

    that would be news.
    It would be more fake news.

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  • Rojik
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    Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post

    No American citizen is a second class citizen.

    As modern day tribesmen complaining about their status would be akin to me as an Irishman or Italian claiming that I am discriminated against. Because anybody can go back hundreds or thousands of years and find a certain point where their people might’ve had a rough time.

    In fact I don’t hear about any American not a single one taken down a statue of Tonto or any tribes men leaders. No one has torn down a statue of MLK Junior or Malcolm X. But we have seen statues of Christopher Columbus Italian explorer torn down...But you don’t see me or other Italian Americans at large forming a group called Italian lives matters and then complaining about reparations or discrimination in a country that is free and equal.
    On the first point many would beg to differ.

    On the second... um you support IRA terrorists. Bobby Sands... poster child for those people. You haven’t given up your Irish Catholic history anymore than I’ve given up my Irish Orangeman one.

    As for statues... well I find tearing them down stupid for many reasons, but are you serious in saying that Italian Americans or Irish Americans haven’t have never banded together to fight against a real or imagined injustice? For real? Do you even know your nation’s history?

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  • Stonewall_Jack
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    Originally posted by Rojik View Post

    Cool story bro, but remember that if someone comes takes your stuff and makes you are second class citizen in your land then you can’t complain. That stuff happens, eh?
    No American citizen is a second class citizen.

    As modern day tribesmen complaining about their status would be akin to me as an Irishman or Italian claiming that I am discriminated against. Because anybody can go back hundreds or thousands of years and find a certain point where their people might’ve had a rough time.

    In fact I don’t hear about any American not a single one taken down a statue of Tonto or any tribes men leaders. No one has torn down a statue of MLK Junior or Malcolm X. But we have seen statues of Christopher Columbus Italian explorer torn down...But you don’t see me or other Italian Americans at large forming a group called Italian lives matters and then complaining about reparations or discrimination in a country that is free and equal.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

    One of these days the Flemish will get "their" lands back.
    So will the Irish, the Polish and everyone else.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

    A completely reasonable point.
    But then they accept that there will be people pushing back to support their own claims.
    I'm sure the ancient enemies of the Lakota Sioux (Blackfeet tribes) might also want "their" land back from the Lakota.

    I tend to think that the North American Indian tribes were like all those small European nations that were constantly at war with each other several hundred years ago. Not a homogeneous group that was all oppressed by whites.
    If history has taught anyone anything, including the NA tribes, it is that what is yours only so long as you can successfully hang on to it.

    Ask the Anasazi, the Mayans, the Incas and all of the other conquered peoples throughout history. There is no absolute ownership of anything, anywhere, by anyone. It's only yours as long as you can keep it.

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

    Especially when 'other means' have proven ineffective,

    it's simply a matter of good long-term strategy

    When your land is occupied by 'foreigners' resistance becomes a moral duty does it not, if it takes centuries, so be it.
    One of these days the Flemish will get "their" lands back.

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Karri View Post

    Look, if they can take the land back by saying it's their historically, then how is that any different from taking it by any other means?
    A completely reasonable point.
    But then they accept that there will be people pushing back to support their own claims.
    I'm sure the ancient enemies of the Lakota Sioux (Blackfeet tribes) might also want "their" land back from the Lakota.

    I tend to think that the North American Indian tribes were like all those small European nations that were constantly at war with each other several hundred years ago. Not a homogeneous group that was all oppressed by whites.

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  • Mountain Man
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    This might be of some interest - 2020 budget for the BIA:

    https://www.bia.gov/sites/bia.gov/fi...d%20SIGNED.pdf

    Want the land back? Refund the money.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
    From the outside, a heady brew of equal parts sentimentality and hypocrisy often seems to b precisely what the US has always been based on...
    No argument from me.

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  • Massena
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    The US inherited that from the European antecedents...

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Considering the amount of Federal funds that go to the various "native American peoples", this is hypocrisy on a grand scale, but it seems to be the new American norm.
    From the outside, a heady brew of equal parts sentimentality and hypocrisy often seems to b precisely what the US has always been based on...

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  • Snowygerry
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    Originally posted by Karri View Post
    Look, if they can take the land back by saying it's their historically, then how is that any different from taking it by any other means?
    Especially when 'other means' have proven ineffective,

    it's simply a matter of good long-term strategy

    When your land is occupied by 'foreigners' resistance becomes a moral duty does it not, if it takes centuries, so be it.

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  • Karri
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
    The claim that the land is somehow still “theirs” always fascinates me for its hypocrisy and ignorance.
    Indians took land from each other long before whites moved in. That’s because Indians were and are, normal human beings with the same motivations as any other human beings.

    So the whites took the land from Indians who took it from other Indians. How far back do we go to decide whose land it really is?
    Can we demand the return of Istanbul to the Roman Empire while we are at it?
    Look, if they can take the land back by saying it's their historically, then how is that any different from taking it by any other means?

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  • Mountain Man
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    Considering the amount of Federal funds that go to the various "native American peoples", this is hypocrisy on a grand scale, but it seems to be the new American norm.

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