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  • #16
    Originally posted by pamak View Post


    Hillary did two things that infuriated conservatives

    1. She tried in the 1990s to create a momentum for "socialist healthcare". This is an unforgivab.
    Not only Conservatives were infuriated, but many others as well, by an unelected person trying to set national policy, and that's the truth!
    She did not try to set momentum, that is false, she actually tried to do it with the help of the WH!
    Last edited by Trung Si; 02 Jul 20, 20:43.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
      Not only Conservatives were infuriated, but many others as well, by an unelected person trying to set national policy, and that's the truth!
      She did not try to set momentum, that is false, she actually tried to do it with the help of the WH!
      God Forbid!
      Not like unelected lobbyist don't do that every day.
      Conservatives in the U.S. won't be happy until Jim Crow returns and "White Heterosexual Only" signs are legalized.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Anthrax View Post

        God Forbid!
        Not like unelected lobbyist don't do that every day.
        They try, but they don't have the power, but she thought she had.
        Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Anthrax View Post

          The 128,000 dead from COVID-19 might trump Clinton's supposed body count.
          Even if only say he's responsible for a portion of the body county it's still by far a Trumpian body count compared to your conspiracy theory body count.
          Problem is can anyone prove this wouldn't have occurred under Clinton(Obama) policy continuation ???

          COVID remains a CCP issue fobbed off on the West due to CCP arrogance and neglect for common(global) concern; i.e. containing and controlling the spread, etc.. No way around that the USA; and Europe, etc.; got roasted by CCP; other than those apologetic and enabling of the CCP.
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          • #20
            You could focus on how unpleasant she is but I would describe her as arrogantly incompetent. Her attempt to lead the effort to reform health care was perhaps doomed from the beginning but she barely moved the ball forward, she failed miserably in Libya not only in Benghazi but her policies left Libya worse off than under Gaddafi, her private email server and the way she handled it's exposure was nothing short of stupidity, equally stupid was taking Russian disinformation in the form of the Steele dossier and actually trying to use it, she could have easily won the 2016 presidential election if she had listened to her advisors, she may be intelligent but she certainly isn't clever and her intuition is dismal.
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            • #21
              I think the problem is that political incompetence/failure is in abundant supply – so that still leaves Judith's original question why Hillary Clinton is special, and she is, since she has won no elections, and holds no public office, hanging...?

              If she was just another incompetent, unsuccessful politicians, her career would already be forgotten. Yet US public discourse refuses to let her just fade away – which it otherwise would.

              So we're back to Judith's question: She is clearly special, why is that?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
                So we're back to Judith's question: She is clearly special, why is that?
                Maybe she embodies what many conservatives see at a corrupt, detached and self serving liberal establishment.
                The reality is that she, like her husband and just about every other President, including Trump, was bought and paid for long before they ever ran for office. The fact that she stood beside Bill, after his disgraceful abuse of his office during and after his relationship with Monica Lewinsky and the accusations of rape and sexual assault he faced (and still faces) shows that whatever ethics she had were dwarfed by her political ambition.
                She would probably have made a better President than Trump but she may also have dragged America into a land war in Syria. Trump or Clinton, what a choice! I'd still have picked Clinton (though I'd pick Trump ahead of Sanders).
                This time around I'd pick Biden but guys, is Biden or Trump really the best you can do?
                You need to get the corporate money out of your politics or else you are going to be stuck with choices like that for the foreseeable future.

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                validity." - Abraham Lincoln.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by E.D. Morel View Post
                  Maybe she embodies what many conservatives see at a corrupt, detached and self serving liberal establishment.
                  She's a strong woman and Conservatives don't like strong women and loathe strong democratic women.
                  Clinton, Pelosi, AOC, most of the Democratic women in Congress.
                  It's a pattern.
                  They demonize them.
                  In Clinton's case, her long career in politics shows she's successful which means they had more time to demonize and make **** up about her.



                  Conservatives in the U.S. won't be happy until Jim Crow returns and "White Heterosexual Only" signs are legalized.

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                  • #24
                    In 2016, I was going to reluctantly vote for Clinton because I didn't like Trump, against my rule of no more Bushes or Clintons. But her "deplorables" remark weighed on me, and more to the point, whenever she had all the good, worthy people on a stage behind her, few, if any, looked like me. (Which is to say a white, heterosexual male with no criminal record and no history of substance abuse).

                    She made her own bed. Not that my vote in Massachusetts mattered, but it was that attitude that made a difference in Pennsylvania etc. And I'm sure that a lot of women voted for Trump because they felt it would be better for their husband's income.

                    Actually my vote in the 2016 Democratic Primary didn't matter - the Massachusetts democratic establishment did everything they could to ensure a Clinton victory over Sanders, whom I voted for.

                    And as I have said on these forums many times, I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. No regrets. Third party candidates for me in 92, 96, 00, and 16.
                    Last edited by lakechampainer; 03 Jul 20, 08:31.

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                    • #25

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