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    In a 2015 interview with The Real News Network, Patrisse Cullors made it absolutly clear.

    "We actually do have an ideological frame,” Cullors said. “Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers.

    “We are trained Marxists. We are super versed on ideological theories and I think that what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk.”
    The Black Lives Matter Global Network does promote various left-wing/Marxist policies, such as the organization’s desire to “disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure,” as is stated on its website.

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    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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    I believe she's queer, so she's trying to lump in a bunch of different LGBT related objectives, things that have nothing to do with black inequality. The organization will serve its purposes of bringing awareness to systemic racism and will be discarded once they're no longer needed.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
      I believe she's queer, so she's trying to lump in a bunch of different LGBT related objectives, things that have nothing to do with black inequality. The organization will serve its purposes of bringing awareness to systemic racism and will be discarded once they're no longer needed.
      I think you said this in a hateful way. Do you go around pointing fingers and calling people queer undeclared or otherwise in real life?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Salinator View Post

        I think you said this in a hateful way. Do you go around pointing fingers and calling people queer undeclared or otherwise in real life?
        She identifies as queer. I wouldn't be offended if someone referred to me as heterosexual, so why is it different the other way around
        "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
        - Benjamin Franklin

        The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

          She identifies as queer. I wouldn't be offended if someone referred to me as heterosexual, so why is it different the other way around
          SHE IDENTIFIES AS MARXIST! How can you ignore that!
          Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

            SHE IDENTIFIES AS MARXIST! How can you ignore that!
            I wasn't. My point was that there's some trojan horsing going on with her. But once BLM has served its purpose to the greater public, which is bringing awareness to police brutality and racism in general, then it will be discarded. She will not be able to gain traction with any Marxist policies.
            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            - Benjamin Franklin

            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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            • #7
              She's not gaining traction with large swathes of the US public because of her self-professed Marxism, but because the bit about long-standing discrimination in US society clearly resonates with a lot of Americans these days.

              If Marxism in and of itself had powers of persuasion like that, then US would would have become the Dictature of the Proletariat shortly after WWII or so, never mind everywhere else.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
                She's not gaining traction with large swathes of the US public because of her self-professed Marxism, but because the bit about long-standing discrimination in US society clearly resonates with a lot of Americans these days.

                If Marxism in and of itself had powers of persuasion like that, then US would would have become the Dictature of the Proletariat shortly after WWII or so, never mind everywhere else.
                Maybe, but BLM is making use of grievances real and imagined to promote their anti US/UK/Jewish/Western message They are attacking churches, war memorials, even statues of those who freed slaves.. I think a lot of their momentum comes from the lock down. Lots of young people around with very little to do, the devil makes work for idle hands. As the world returns to normal their support will dry up. Best thing that the west can do to combat them is to get the economy going, open schools and colleges etc. In short give young people productive things to occupy themselves with. The Left know this which is one of the reasons why they are trying to make it has hard as possible to get back to normality.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                  She will not be able to gain traction with any Marxist policies.
                  Illusion and self-deception .
                  Both Europe and the US are galloping to their destruction.Western European governments are following since decades a Marxist policy and til Trump came,it was the same for the USA.
                  But Washington,California, NY, etc have become Marxist strongholds .
                  The war has come to its decisive phase .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Surrey View Post

                    Maybe, but BLM is making use of grievances real and imagined to promote their anti US/UK/Jewish/Western message They are attacking churches, war memorials, even statues of those who freed slaves.. I think a lot of their momentum comes from the lock down. Lots of young people around with very little to do, the devil makes work for idle hands. As the world returns to normal their support will dry up. Best thing that the west can do to combat them is to get the economy going, open schools and colleges etc. In short give young people productive things to occupy themselves with. The Left know this which is one of the reasons why they are trying to make it has hard as possible to get back to normality.
                    Like almost all grievances taking to the streets like this, it's about justice – if there is an actual deficit of it. Or not, as is usually maintained by opponents to it.

                    But the statue-stuff is a bit is street theatre that has been eagerly picked up by what is likely by now best though of the the reactionary part of the US political spectrum, and not least the Trump campaign. Because that kind of politics of symbols very quickly descends into politics of identity – and whether the BLM etc. movement wants to go there or not, their opponents, and most clearly the Trump campaign CLEARLY is all for trying to fight on that kind of turf.

                    Which is consistent with how Steve Bannon originally, and quite likely correctly, conceptualized this; if it can be made to be about identity politics Trump can beat the opposition to him senseless wit it. IF protests that are about deficiencies of justice in US society can be morphed into a contest about identities and general tribalism, them Trump can most definitely win. It reduces the matter of whether injustices persist in the US into us-vs-them pissing contests. Whether that is good for the US or not is another matter, and clearly not one concerning Trump.

                    The word also seems to be that since the Trump campaign has been kind of struggling of late, they have resorted to re-contacting Steve Bannon about plays to get out of their slump. Trump's latest public appearance in Arizona, with its emphasis precisely on identity politics, would seem to bear that out.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
                      Like almost all grievances taking to the streets like this, it's about justice – if there is an actual deficit of it. Or not, as is usually maintained by opponents to it.

                      But the statue-stuff is a bit is street theatre that has been eagerly picked up by what is likely by now best though of the the reactionary part of the US political spectrum, and not least the Trump campaign. Because that kind of politics of symbols very quickly descends into politics of identity – and whether the BLM etc. movement wants to go there or not, their opponents, and most clearly the Trump campaign CLEARLY is all for trying to fight on that kind of turf.

                      Which is consistent with how Steve Bannon originally, and quite likely correctly, conceptualized this; if it can be made to be about identity politics Trump can beat the opposition to him senseless wit it. IF protests that are about deficiencies of justice in US society can be morphed into a contest about identities and general tribalism, them Trump can most definitely win. It reduces the matter of whether injustices persist in the US into us-vs-them pissing contests. Whether that is good for the US or not is another matter, and clearly not one concerning Trump.

                      The word also seems to be that since the Trump campaign has been kind of struggling of late, they have resorted to re-contacting Steve Bannon about plays to get out of their slump. Trump's latest public appearance in Arizona, with its emphasis precisely on identity politics, would seem to bear that out.
                      BLM, or at least its leaders are also playing identity politics, us vs them, that has always been their position and method. They can be defeated by using their own tactics against them. There are always gouing to be more supporters of law and order than supporters of anarchy.
                      It appears wrong was done in the Floyd case and possibly others. The US is a big place, there are always going to be some bad officers. There are also always gong to be some inexperienced, poorly trained or incompetent ones. These need to be dealt with on a case by case basis. There is no reason to create anarchy as the Democrats are suggesting and de fund the police.
                      "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                      • #12
                        There is in Washington DC a statue of Suleiman, sultan of the Ottoman Empire and slave trader .
                        Why is BLM not destroying this statue ?Maybe because they would lose the subsidies of the CAIR ?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Surrey View Post

                          BLM, or at least its leaders are also playing identity politics, us vs them
                          That also tends to come down to who is being acknowledged as a leader, and why, by either side.

                          They are going to seek each other out since they mutually empower each other.

                          And everyone else ends up in the cacky.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                            She identifies as queer. I wouldn't be offended if someone referred to me as heterosexual, so why is it different the other way around
                            Same way we are no longer allowed to identify ourselves as white.
                            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                              Same way we are no longer allowed to identify ourselves as white.
                              Just out of curiosity, but has anyone actually tried stopping you from doing that? How, even?

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