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  • CarpeDiem
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    Thread closed due to numerous posts addressing the poster not the post. May clean thread up and reopen. May not.

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  • Rojik
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

    And yet he and I were spectacularly right.
    In your wet dreams

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  • Rojik
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

    Fascinating.
    You ridicule me for not doing "some basic research" while seemingly doing none yourself.


    1) Confiscation didn't work:
    At the end of the confiscation program the government had collected roughly 56,000 firearms. A June 2019 report from consulting firm KPMG had estimated that there were as many as 173,000 newly-prohibited firearms in the country. New Zealand gun rights group, the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners estimated that 170,000 prohibited firearms were still in the hands of Kiwis after the confiscation program.

    2) Confiscation didn't stop gun crime.
    New figures obtained by RNZ show last year had the highest rates of gun crime and deaths involving firearms for nearly 10 years.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ls-in-a-decade

    Let me know when you want to withdraw the accusation I did no "research"
    And trying to quibble with the details of the "research" I provided is just an effort to change the subject and challenge the weight of my evidence and admits that I actually did the "research".
    ​​​​​​You talked crap and now are doing google searches. You were wrong. Just admit it and move on. You said something that wasn’t true and want to double down on it. Tell your next story walking, mate

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Rojik View Post

    Wow. From A to Z in one rambling post
    And yet he and I were spectacularly right.

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Rojik View Post

    just on that point- NZ had extremely liberal gun laws. They only changed after the atrocity. Please do some basic research before dragging other places into your mess
    Fascinating.
    You ridicule me for not doing "some basic research" while seemingly doing none yourself.


    1) Confiscation didn't work:
    At the end of the confiscation program the government had collected roughly 56,000 firearms. A June 2019 report from consulting firm KPMG had estimated that there were as many as 173,000 newly-prohibited firearms in the country. New Zealand gun rights group, the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners estimated that 170,000 prohibited firearms were still in the hands of Kiwis after the confiscation program.

    2) Confiscation didn't stop gun crime.
    New figures obtained by RNZ show last year had the highest rates of gun crime and deaths involving firearms for nearly 10 years.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ls-in-a-decade

    Let me know when you want to withdraw the accusation I did no "research"
    And trying to quibble with the details of the "research" I provided is just an effort to change the subject and challenge the weight of my evidence and admits that I actually did the "research".

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  • Rojik
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Where did I say anything was wrong in your post? I didn't question you, I expressed my opinion, is that still allowed on a discussion forum?
    Uh huh. So jumping in with some ramble because I corrected a factual error is an opinion. Opine all you want. But he prepared to be called on it.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post


    now let's see if I can attempt to match your level of arrogance, do you consider sex offenders violent?
    Car jacking? Domestic violence?
    Again, do you have any evidence that they released offenders of any of the above? Yes, I consider all of them violent offenders.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    I address your claim which was offered as a fact. And that claim was

    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    We should review the insanity forced upon us in just the last 90 days. Forced into a lock in place, violent prisoners released into the population when there are few resources to monitor them, no jobs for them,

    So, let's try again:

    I said that from what I know, there was release of non-violent criminals?

    Do you have any info that violent criminals were released? And no, after the fact events cannot be used to judge a decision in the past. Not to mention that I did not see evidence that any looter was among those who were released from a prison.

    now let's see if I can attempt to match your level of arrogance, do you consider sex offenders violent?
    Car jacking? Domestic violence?

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  • Nikki
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    I see no evidence that they were non violent, Why not address my point about releasing these prisoners when unemployment is high, businesses are closed, support systems are already overburdened ?
    I agree that it appears they are releasing prisoners to add to the chaos. My neighbor called the police on her ex-boyfriend when he vandalized her car and harassed her by sending hundreds of mean text msgs per day. He was released last week and returned to kill her, which he did. I don't agree with early prisoner releases. They should do the time they were sentenced.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    I see no evidence that they were non violent, Why not address my point about releasing these prisoners when unemployment is high, businesses are closed, support systems are already overburdened ?
    I address your claim which was offered as a fact. And that claim was

    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    We should review the insanity forced upon us in just the last 90 days. Forced into a lock in place, violent prisoners released into the population when there are few resources to monitor them, no jobs for them,

    So, let's try again:

    I said that from what I know, there was release of non-violent criminals?

    Do you have any info that violent criminals were released? And no, after the fact events cannot be used to judge a decision in the past. Not to mention that I did not see evidence that any looter was among those who were released from a prison.

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  • Urban hermit
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    37 minutes after being released Inmates rearrested
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/22/c...er-carjacking/
    Dozens of prisoners released due to Covid are rearrested
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/19/dozens...virus-release/
    Sex offender among those released
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavi...241618006.html

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    And this does not address my point that the cases I have seen of release of prisoners were about non-violent offenders which happened at the state and federal level
    I see no evidence that they were non violent, Why not address my point about releasing these prisoners when unemployment is high, businesses are closed, support systems are already overburdened ?

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    I haven't seen him busting the windows out of a Wells Fargo Bank to show his sorrow and out rage for the loss of Floyd, have you?
    And this does not address my point that the cases I have seen of release of prisoners were about non-violent offenders which happened at the state and federal level

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    In the cases I read, there was a release of non-violent criminals. By the way, Cohen was among them. He was released from a FEDERAL prison

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...virus-concerns

    I haven't seen him busting the windows out of a Wells Fargo Bank to show his sorrow and out rage for the loss of Floyd, have you?

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Rojik View Post

    Once again, I was correcting a mis fact. Go ahead and yell in the mirror if you want. I really don’t care. I really don’t care about the gun laws in NZ either. What I do care about is people talking crap.
    So... was I right or wrong in my post?
    Where did I say anything was wrong in your post? I didn't question you, I expressed my opinion, is that still allowed on a discussion forum?

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