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  • #46
    Two recent mask related stories:

    Published May 7, 2020
    Masks prevent the spread of COVID-19, landmark analysis of 64 studies finds
    Over a 13-year period, healthcare workers donning masks had a 50% to 80% reduction in contracting novel coronaviruses, including COVID-19

    https://www.fastcompany.com/90501603...utm_source=rss

    Heroes of the pandemic: Gourmet candy apple maker cleaning n95 masks for health care workers

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...h-care-workers

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    • #47
      Originally posted by CarpeDiem View Post
      Two recent mask related stories:

      Published May 7, 2020
      Masks prevent the spread of COVID-19, landmark analysis of 64 studies finds
      Over a 13-year period, healthcare workers donning masks had a 50% to 80% reduction in contracting novel coronaviruses, including COVID-19

      https://www.fastcompany.com/90501603...utm_source=rss

      Heroes of the pandemic: Gourmet candy apple maker cleaning n95 masks for health care workers

      https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...h-care-workers
      Healthcare workers usually are issued the proper type of masks, while the hodgepodge used right now is virtually useless. The cowboy bandana is the most laughable since it hangs down from the nose and doesn't keep anything out at all.

      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #48
        [QUOTE=Mountain Man;n5191515]

        ….. and doesn't keep anything out at all.

        [QUOTE]

        The face mask advice for the general public is not supposed to keep things out.

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        • #49
          [QUOTE=Rutger;n5191538][QUOTE=Mountain Man;n5191515]

          ….. and doesn't keep anything out at all.


          The face mask advice for the general public is not supposed to keep things out.
          According to all of the politicians and health departments, it is specifically to "help stop the spread of the corona virus". Obviously, since none of the stuff being used will do that, there is another purpose behind such instructions....to deceive us into believing that something useful is actually being done when in fact, nothing is being done.
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            (....)
            According to all of the politicians and health departments, it is specifically to "help stop the spread of the corona virus". Obviously, since none of the stuff being used will do that, there is another purpose behind such instructions....to deceive us into believing that something useful is actually being done when in fact, nothing is being done.
            Well to be fair - the mouth masks now distributed among the general population are just a step in a much larger strategy, they are part of the exit out of the more severe lockdown restrictions.

            As more people go out to work, school and generally about their business, they are meant as an extra barrier for the virus, in situations where distance is hard to keep, in itself they are not expected to do much.

            Consider it the equivalent of holding a hand before your face when you cough or sneeze...

            In addition to the psychological aspect, with more masks about, people are more inclined to mind distancing measures, which are actually more effective.

            They make an invisible threat, visible, not unlike helmets on a construction site.

            Shopkeepers here wear them often even though it's not compulsory, makes them look professional and concerned for the health of their costumers, which in turn is good for business.

            Many use plexiglass screens for their counters too.

            And of course in the food industry and medical professions they have been common for a long time, and are often mandatory I think.
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            • #51
              [QUOTE=Mountain Man;n5191542][QUOTE=Rutger;n5191538]
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              ….. and doesn't keep anything out at all.



              According to all of the politicians and health departments, it is specifically to "help stop the spread of the corona virus". Obviously, since none of the stuff being used will do that, there is another purpose behind such instructions....to deceive us into believing that something useful is actually being done when in fact, nothing is being done.
              According to recent opinion polling the UK population is the most fearful in the world. Most people are hiding under the covers sucking their thumbs and crying for mummy because of COVID. At present the thought of going outside gives them a panic attack. It could thus be argued that wearing masks may be a necessary comfort blanket to give them the courage to leave the house. As such it doesn't really matter that wearing masks is completely ineffective at preventing infection. The sole purpose is psychological.
              "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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              • #52
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                I didn't. I've been out most days since this nonsense began. I've been regularly to stores, and other people's homes. Haven't particularly tried hard to 'social distance' and damn sure haven't worn a worthless stick up mask. After all, it's not like I'm robbing banks or something...

                So, in true American fashion I have ignored the authorities and government and done as I damn well please. Now that's American!
                Might explain why the US is a World leader on infections and deaths. STUPID! Rules
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                • #53
                  "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                  Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                  you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                    Might explain why the US is a World leader on infections and deaths. STUPID! Rules
                    Couldn't possibly be that the US has more population than most of those other countries, now could it?

                    By Rate the US is behind quite a number of European countries........
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post

                      Couldn't possibly be that the US has more population than most of those other countries, now could it?

                      By Rate the US is behind quite a number of European countries........
                      On a per capita basis the US is doing better than
                      France
                      Spain
                      England
                      Italy.

                      It is also doing better than Sweden, but since Sweden is taking a long term approach, they shouldn't be included.

                      We are also likely doing better than Iran, china and maybe russia, but since accurate information is hard to come by from those nations, it is hard to be certain
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                        Might explain why the US is a World leader on infections and deaths. STUPID! Rules
                        The "hotbeds" of infection in the US tend to be in and around democratic strongholds. i.e. cities.

                        Are you sure you want to blame them?
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                          The "hotbeds" of infection in the US tend to be in and around democratic strongholds. i.e. cities.

                          Are you sure you want to blame them?
                          You know the places where the Trump haters live. It seems by his logic the Trump haters must be the ignorant, gullible masses.
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                          • #58
                            I think the principal that applies in the sea of uncertainty surrounding this pandemic is that the perfect is the enemy of the good.
                            We hunt the hunters

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

                              Well to be fair - the mouth masks now distributed among the general population are just a step in a much larger strategy, they are part of the exit out of the more severe lockdown restrictions.

                              As more people go out to work, school and generally about their business, they are meant as an extra barrier for the virus, in situations where distance is hard to keep, in itself they are not expected to do much.

                              Consider it the equivalent of holding a hand before your face when you cough or sneeze...

                              In addition to the psychological aspect, with more masks about, people are more inclined to mind distancing measures, which are actually more effective.

                              They make an invisible threat, visible, not unlike helmets on a construction site.

                              Shopkeepers here wear them often even though it's not compulsory, makes them look professional and concerned for the health of their costumers, which in turn is good for business.

                              Many use plexiglass screens for their counters too.

                              And of course in the food industry and medical professions they have been common for a long time, and are often mandatory I think.
                              Using a useless mask does not add anything to a situation. Painting a pig does not make it a Cadillac. OTH, where are all the real masks?

                              Distancing is an artificial standard that will disappear immediately, and already has in many places as people begin simply ignoring the politicians and going about their business. That's how it's working in Colorado.
                              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                                Healthcare workers are there to care for the sick...not isolate themselves and pretend nothing is wrong.

                                As for the implied message that everyone will get it, so what? Odds of dying are ridiculously low, and who promised anyone that they could live forever?

                                Time to grow a set and get back to work.
                                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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