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  • Whats in the Bill?

    300 million for Public Broadcasting
    100 Million for NASA
    720 Million for Social Security service, (200 million to the fund, everything else for the administration)
    35 million to JFK center of preforming arts
    15 million to Community development fund.
    7 million to the fair housing act
    1 billion for Obama phones
    227 million for youth activities
    And much much more that has nothing to do with wellness.
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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    The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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    • #3
      And this is: As it should be...

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...cid=spartandhp

      President Donald Trump's businesses are barred from getting loans or investments under the new $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus deal, according to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

      The Trump Organization, which the president has not divested, is run by his two elder sons, Donald Jr. and Eric. The company controls several hotels, resorts and golf clubs, including Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida. The resort closed last week, during its peak season.

      Lawmakers and the White House reached an agreement early Wednesday after days of tense, roller-coaster negotiations that added to uncertainty in markets.
      Democrats and other critics of the president were concerned that Trump's businesses would receive bailout money because the tourism industry is one of the hardest-hit by the coronavirus, which has spurred leaders to restrict travel and companies to cut capacity and close up shop.

      The measure will also ban businesses controlled by Vice President Mike Pence, Cabinet members and lawmakers from receiving the funds, according to details circulated by Schumer, D-N.Y.
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Massena View Post
        And this is: As it should be...

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...cid=spartandhp

        President Donald Trump's businesses are barred from getting loans or investments under the new $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus deal, according to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

        The Trump Organization, which the president has not divested, is run by his two elder sons, Donald Jr. and Eric. The company controls several hotels, resorts and golf clubs, including Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida. The resort closed last week, during its peak season.

        Lawmakers and the White House reached an agreement early Wednesday after days of tense, roller-coaster negotiations that added to uncertainty in markets.
        Democrats and other critics of the president were concerned that Trump's businesses would receive bailout money because the tourism industry is one of the hardest-hit by the coronavirus, which has spurred leaders to restrict travel and companies to cut capacity and close up shop.

        The measure will also ban businesses controlled by Vice President Mike Pence, Cabinet members and lawmakers from receiving the funds, according to details circulated by Schumer, D-N.Y.
        However, all of the sacred cows belonging to the left will be well fed.....
        Obama phones?
        JFK center for performing arts.
        Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
        Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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        • #5
          Ummm...the powerful smell of political pork....
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #6
            Will Trump refuse to sign it?
            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            - Benjamin Franklin

            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Ummm...the powerful smell of political pork....
              This is the kind of pork we're getting with this bill...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                300 million for Public Broadcasting
                100 Million for NASA
                720 Million for Social Security service, (200 million to the fund, everything else for the administration)
                35 million to JFK center of preforming arts
                15 million to Community development fund.
                7 million to the fair housing act
                1 billion for Obama phones
                227 million for youth activities
                And much much more that has nothing to do with wellness.
                First, no link

                Second, no details to see if these things are related to the crisis. For example, the fair housing act can obviously be used to supplement rents for poor families

                Third, do you understand that a 2 trillion stimulus bill is 2,000 billions?

                The above collectively, is just a little bit over 2 billion.

                Why do not you try to actually see the real meat of the bill before you become outraged about its content?

                The bill should actually have provisions to make sure that this deficit does not lead to dramatic cuts to Social Security and medicare and that those at the bottom 50% do not pay most of the cost.

                My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                  Will Trump refuse to sign it?
                  If he does, he most certainly will lose in November.
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

                    However, all of the sacred cows belonging to the left will be well fed.....
                    Obama phones?
                    JFK center for performing arts.
                    And you know that...how? Have you seen the bill?
                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post

                      And you know that...how? Have you seen the bill?
                      By the way, what are the "Obama phones"? This sounds like a talking point from some RW site (whose link was not posted)
                      My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Massena View Post

                        If he does, he most certainly will lose in November.
                        You think his supporters will care that he turned his back on them? They're already making excuses for him.
                        "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                        - Benjamin Franklin

                        The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                          300 million for Public Broadcasting
                          100 Million for NASA
                          720 Million for Social Security service, (200 million to the fund, everything else for the administration)
                          35 million to JFK center of preforming arts
                          15 million to Community development fund.
                          7 million to the fair housing act
                          1 billion for Obama phones
                          227 million for youth activities
                          And much much more that has nothing to do with wellness.
                          Maybe this will help:

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...cid=spartandhp

                          What the plan includes
                          • A $500 billion loan program for businesses: The biggest sticking point between Democrats and Republicans throughout the negotiations was $500 billion worth of emergency loans both for large businesses and municipalities grappling with the coronavirus outbreak. For instance, $50 billion of that money was allotted to passenger airlines, according to the Washington Post.

                          Rather than trying to negotiate that figure down, Democrats instead negotiated to have strings attached to it. Instead of giving the Trump administration broad discretion to make the loans, Schumer and Pelosi said there will likely be a new inspector general in the Treasury Department specifically to oversee these funds, as well as a congressional oversight panel to examine how the money is being used.

                          A slew of additional conditions, championed by progressives and supported by the public, including a requirement for companies to implement a $15 minimum wage, have not made it into the final legislation.
                          • “Unemployment insurance on steroids”: Schumer announced Monday afternoon that unemployment insurance will be expanded to grapple with a new surge in claims, calling it “unemployment insurance on steroids.” The new bill will increase unemployment insurance by $600 per week for four months. This money is in addition to what states pay as a base unemployment salary. This benefit would extend to gig economy workers, freelancers, and furloughed workers who are still getting health insurance from their employers, but are not receiving a paycheck.
                          • Expanded funds for hospitals, medical equipment, and health care worker protections: In a statement, Schumer reported to Senate Democrats that the latest bill will contain $150 billion for hospitals treating coronavirus patients. Of that money, $100 billion will go to hospitals, $1 billion will go to the Indian Health Service, and the remainder will be used to increase medical equipment capacity.
                          • Increased aid to state and local governments: Schumer also said about $150 billion of federal money would be allocated for state and local governments who are dealing with the impacts of the crisis in their local communities, including $8 billion for tribal governments.
                          • Direct payments to adults below a certain income threshold: The legislation would include a one-time $1,200 check that would be sent to most adults making $75,000 or less annually, according to past tax returns. A $500 payment would also be sent to cover every child in qualifying households. The final policy marks a significant change from the direct payments initially proposed by Republicans, which would have given less to many individuals who do not have taxable income. It now includes the majority of adults who are under the $75,000 threshold and phases the payment out as people’s incomes increase.
                          • Loans to small businesses: There would be $367 billion in the bill aimed at providing loans for small businesses, according to the Washington Post.
                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                            You think his supporters will care that he turned his back on them? They're already making excuses for him.
                            Sure they are-but they are not a majority of the electorate-fortunately.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Massena View Post

                              And you know that...how? Have you seen the bill?
                              Why does the JFK Center for Preforming Arts need money?
                              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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