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  • #61
    Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
    It's not a surprise, but apparently President Moron cares more about number perception then the health of Americans.

    Yesterday he told the world (in a news conference) that he doesn't want to let the people on cruise ships off because it'll increase the number of cases in the United States and it's not their fault those people are sick.

    This moron is unbelievable.

    Oh, and don't get me started on his comments about the kid in Nashville who was picked up by the Tornado. Apparently, President Moron didn't know all the other members of the kids family was killed and didn't care.

    I really think this man is a psychopath.

    A lot of people are blocked on a lot of cruise ships, over the whole world .California blocked the Grand Princess cruise ship:is the governor of California a psychopath ?
    Hongkong,Mexico, Dominican Republic,etc,.. blocked cruise ships : are the authorities of Hongkong, Mexico, Dominican Republic,.. psychopaths ?
    To block a cruise ship with passengers who have/can have a contagious disease,is a correct decision .The same for a village where the inhabitants have/can have a contagious disease .
    The decision from Trump is the decision of an intelligent man, not the decision of a psychopath,or a sociopath .
    In 2014 a nurse from Maine was sequestered by the authorities from New Jersey and Maine,because she had worked with Ebola patients in Sierra Leone . Were these authorities psychopaths .?
    There are health officers at 20 ports of entry and land crossings who have the authority to isolate incoming persons .Obama did not abolish them : is Obama a psychopath ?
    During the 1918 plague,American Samoa was placed in qurantine .Was this the work of a psychopath ?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
      "We need Joe Biden for President! He'll be able to handle this!"

      He'll at least be taking with experts and not playing hunch like some sucker in a casio
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

        well said.


        Of course politicans care about perception. It is their job to care about perceptions.
        It's their jobreally. How about serving their office and the We the people?
        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

          It's their jobreally. How about serving their office and the We the people?


          And if the "people" have a negative "perception" of the job they are doing, they will not get reelected.
          Forgive me if I am past the point of believing that most politicans run for office for our good rather than their own.
          They are politicans first and always. If you need some help with that concept let me know.

          Bernie Sanders is far from unique, but he sure seems to have made a lot of money "serving" his office and "we the people".



          Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

          Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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          • #65
            A series of comments from a number of posters were deleted as they were personally directed.
            Please stop this kind of behaviour.
            Thank you
            ACG Staff

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ljadw View Post

              Wrong : asking 1000 people in February/March how they will vote in November does NOT indicate how 150 million people will vote in November ; besides the potus is not elected by popular votes : you can have 270 electoral votes by winning 11 popular votes only .
              4 years ago : the same pollsters were wrong, thus why should they be now right, especially as we know who is paying for the polls ?
              You really should study the science behind the subject under discussion - first.....
              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                He'll at least be taking with experts and not playing hunch like some sucker in a casio
                I'm thinking about that...which is better?
                A sucker in a casino or Joe Biden talking with experts?

                Expert: "Mr. President, we need a new quarantine station."
                President Biden: "Let me tell 'ya 'bout Cornpop."
                {}

                "Any story sounds true until someone tells the other side and sets the record straight." -Proverbs 18:17

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                  It's their jobreally. How about serving their office and the We the people?
                  But how can they "do their job" if a potentially negative perception prevents them from being elected to office? Set aside the cynicism for a moment: no politician can do any kind of job -- good, bad, or indifferent -- if he can't get elected to office. From the earliest days of our republic, our elected officials have always invested a great deal of time and effort into cultivating perception: Abraham Lincoln grew his beard because he was told that it would improve his appearance, George Washington had white horses stationed in towns he was scheduled to visit, and he would dismount his carriage and mount one of those chargers and make sure that he was seen riding the last couple of miles into town. Caesar, Pericles -- going back to antiquity, they all played that game, carefully grooming their public image for the sake of their political careers. And consequently, there have been no shortage of political leaders who sacrificed real nuts-n-bolts concerns in favor of public perception. The Vietnam War might be the poster boy for that kind of thing in American history -- but it was hardly the first, and it won't be the last.
                  I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                    well said.


                    Of course politicans care about perception. It is their job to care about perceptions.
                    He'll do a better job than the moron in office who is telling people if they have the virus to go ahead and go to work.
                    Conservatives in the U.S. won't be happy until Jim Crow returns and "White Heterosexual Only" signs are legalized.

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                    • #70
                      Well, for the Trump haters, you could hope he catches it...

                      U.S. President Donald Trump has not been tested for the coronavirus, the White House said on Monday, though at least two lawmakers with whom he has recently come into contact have announced they were self-quarantining after attending a conference with a person who had tested positive for the virus.
                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp



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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Well, for the Trump haters, you could hope he catches it...


                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp



                        consider the way Trump has tried to play this virus down it would be karma now wouldn't it. Maybe he has a roll of paper towels left over from PR
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Anthrax View Post

                          He'll do a better job than the moron in office who is telling people if they have the virus to go ahead and go to work.
                          Wait, now you are condemning Trump for allegedly not endorsing quarantines right after you condemned him for trying to enforce them?
                          Gotcha.
                          Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                          Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                            Wait, now you are condemning Trump for allegedly not endorsing quarantines right after you condemned him for trying to enforce them?
                            Gotcha.
                            .
                            If there is a hurricane in Tennessee,it is the fault of Trump, if there is no hurricane it is also the fault of Trump .If Trump was potus in 1918, he would be the responsible of the flu, if he was potus in 1941, he would be responsinle for PH .

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                              You really should study the science behind the subject under discussion - first.....
                              There is nothing scientific about polls .
                              A poll paid by Trump will give as result that Trump will win, a poll paid by Biden will say that Biden will win .
                              Besides : the majority of the electors have still not decided for whom they will vote .

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                                There is nothing scientific about polls .
                                Patently not true. Polls use very well known sampling and statistical methods. The problem right now is the US population is in a technological transition that doesn't fit the sampling methods well. That is, people use cell phones now not land lines and the historical method for sampling was by zip code, area code, and phone number. Today someone's area code on their phone often doesn't match their geographical location by zip code. Thus, you could have someone polled as being in say, New York but living in Texas as the result of a job change but they kept their phone plan with a New York area code. Thus, the polling would be inaccurate.

                                That's one example of how polls are less reliable right now and probably will be for some extended time until the pollsters get used to how to sort the sample correctly given technological change.

                                A poll paid by Trump will give as result that Trump will win, a poll paid by Biden will say that Biden will win .
                                Besides : the majority of the electors have still not decided for whom they will vote .
                                This is a different kind of poll. What you are describing is a form of "push poll."

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll

                                The pollster asks you a number of leading questions that get you to answer such that you tend to agree with their candidate and disagree with the other candidate. They then ask who you would vote for based on your answers.

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