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  • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Try getting a clue on both economic reality and what the USA middle class really are.
    So you have no problems with unlimited donations to campaigns by corporations and elitists?

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    • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

      It's even more a socialist/communist policy, see Soros and Steyer, etc. Also the "in kind support" from a LW dominated MSM, your source of the propaganda you regurgitate.
      Nothing I say is repeated by Fox. Fox isn't in the business of truth telling. They get away with it because they're not on broadcast.

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      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

        Citizens United is a conservative 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization in the United States founded in 1988. In 2010 the organization won a U.S. Supreme Court case known as Citizens United v. FEC, which struck down as unconstitutional a federal law prohibiting corporations and unions from making expenditures in connection with federal elections. The organization's current president and chairman is David Bossie
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        Citizens United's stated mission is to restore the United States government to "citizens' control, through a combination of education, advocacy, and grass-roots organization" seeking to "reassert the traditional American values of limited government, freedom of enterprise, strong families, and national sovereignty and security."[2] Citizens United is a conservative political advocacy group organized under Section 501(c)4 of the federal tax code, meaning that donations are not tax deductible. To fulfill this mission, Citizens United produces television commercials, web advertisements, and documentary films.[3] CU films have won film festival awards, including Perfect Valor (Best Documentary at the GI Film Festival) and Ronald Reagan: Rendezvous with Destiny (Remi Award at Houston Worldfest International Festival).
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        Citizens United is known for its support of conservatives in politics. The group produced a television advertisement that reveals several legislative actions taken by John McCain, which aired on Fox News Channel.[5] On October 2, 2006, in reaction to revelations of a cover-up of inappropriate communications between Republican Congressman Mark Foley and United States House of Representatives Page, Citizens United president David Bossie called on Dennis Hastert to resign over his role in covering up the scandal
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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citize..._(organization) (for what Wiki is worth)
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        http://citizensunited.org/
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        CU is Conservative focused and in opposition to the machinery of the socialist/communist Left-Wing(LW), AntiFa, "Resist", and similar minded seditious organizations that seek to undermine and alter the Constitution and founding principles of our Government.
        I love their sales pitch.

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        • Originally posted by ljadw View Post

          Everyone knows what dark money is : the money that Hillary received 4 years ago, the money the Democrat candidates are receiving now .
          Nope. The right doesn't want any accountability for donations. Unlimited donations as well. Anonymous. That's corporatist and crooked. Leads to corruption.

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          • Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
            So you have no problems with unlimited donations to campaigns by corporations and elitists?
            I don't so long as they are made openly and publicly. Money alone can't win elections. So long as everyone knows who's giving what to whom it's all fine.

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            • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

              I don't so long as they are made openly and publicly. Money alone can't win elections. So long as everyone knows who's giving what to whom it's all fine.
              Republicans don't want open and public disclosures. That's what Citizens United was all about. That's why CU is corrupt.

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              • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                I don't so long as they are made openly and publicly. Money alone can't win elections. So long as everyone knows who's giving what to whom it's all fine.
                I agree, so people can make up their own minds!
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                • Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                  The decision leads to corruption. You sound like a fan of money in politics.
                  So your opinions carry more weight than the 1st Amendment?
                  Truly a brilliant argument, but doesn’t support your claim the decision is wrong.

                  I guess you can’t support your claim so you troll instead.
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                  • Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                    Republicans don't want open and public disclosures. That's what Citizens United was all about. That's why CU is corrupt.
                    Um, the SCOTUS decided citizens united, not republicans. Are you aware of that?
                    And if you think that is what CU was “all about” you might want to read your talking points again.
                    Or rely on different ones.
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                    • Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                      So your opinions carry more weight than the 1st Amendment?
                      Truly a brilliant argument, but doesn’t support your claim the decision is wrong.

                      I guess you can’t support your claim so you troll instead.
                      I already did, the decision leads to corruption.

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                      • Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                        Um, the SCOTUS decided citizens united, not republicans. Are you aware of that?
                        And if you think that is what CU was “all about” you might want to read your talking points again.
                        Or rely on different ones.
                        Yes, a conservative SCOTUS. The republican party relies on these shady policies to win elections. That's why they're for it.
                        It sounds like you support dark money influencing elections. That's dangerous.

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                        • Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                          Yes, a conservative SCOTUS. The republican party relies on these shady policies to win elections. That's why they're for it.
                          It sounds like you support dark money influencing elections. That's dangerous.
                          So, if the decision was based solely on politics it should be pretty easy to take it apart.
                          And yet you can't.
                          Hmmmmm

                          Trolling again?
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                          • Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                            I already did, the decision leads to corruption.
                            fascinating.
                            So can all forms of free speech.
                            the hole you are digging keeps getting deeper.

                            But please, share more of your deep understanding of the law.
                            I'm loving every minute of this.
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                            • Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                              So your opinions carry more weight than the 1st Amendment?
                              Truly a brilliant argument, but doesn’t support your claim the decision is wrong.

                              I guess you can’t support your claim so you troll instead.
                              I think we have already said that money should NOT be equated with the first amendment. Such monetization makes no sense as it was explained in previous posts.
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                              • Originally posted by pamak View Post

                                I think we have already said that money should NOT be equated with the first amendment. Such monetization makes no sense as it was explained in previous posts.
                                So?

                                That doesn't make the decision wrong as you both have tried to argue.
                                It simply means that you don't like it.
                                That is very different from being "wrong".

                                Your feelings aren't relevant to the determination of whether it is right or wrong as I explained in previous posts.
                                I will leave you 2 to your feelings though
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