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  • Should registered voters be required to vote?

    Do you think all registered voters should be required to vote in all elections? I'm asking because here in California, there's a bill heading to the assembly floor that would force register voters to cast a ballot or be fined.



    SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — A new proposal is heading to the assembly floor that would force registered voters in California to cast a ballot — or else.

    Assemblymember Marc Levine (D-Marin County) introduced AB 2070 on Tuesday which would require all eligible California voters to vote in every election. The law would be enforced by the Secretary of State.

    But, the half-page piece of legislation neglects to suggest any repercussions should you choose not to vote. In a press release, Levine wrote in part, “California is a national leader on expanding voting rights to its citizens… This is not a time to be complacent at the ballot box.”

    The lack of consequences laid out in the bill have left a lot of questions unanswered.

    https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020...vote-new-bill/
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    No. Freedom to vote, includes the freedom not to vote.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
      No. Freedom to vote, includes the freedom not to vote.
      You would think this is the case but I cannot find anything on the right not to vote.
      All voting legislation focuses on the rights to vote.

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      • #4
        The key is in the phrase "right to vote". "Rights" are not mandatory obligations.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Ironic?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            The key is in the phrase "right to vote". "Rights" are not mandatory obligations.

            That's how regular folks see it...but in California we live in the twilight zone.
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            • #7
              We really do live in the age of entitlement.

              “No one should force me to vote... but that guy kneeling at a football game should be shot.” Selective patriotism don’t you think?


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              • #8
                Maybe they should add an incentive like the Soviet Union did to get people to vote:



                Or Venezuela...



                After all, these aren't "bribes," they're "incentives."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Persephone View Post

                  You would think this is the case but I cannot find anything on the right not to vote.
                  All voting legislation focuses on the rights to vote.
                  "In all of Syria, only 900 people voted against you, President Assad. What more could you desire?"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Persephone View Post


                    That's how regular folks see it...but in California we live in the twilight zone.
                    I know..I was born there..somewhere during the Jurassic Period.

                    Used to be different, but Hollywood changed all of that.
                    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      Maybe they should add an incentive like the Soviet Union did to get people to vote:



                      Or Venezuela...



                      After all, these aren't "bribes," they're "incentives."
                      The Democrats did add an incentives: open borders, free medical care, free schooling, welfare, food stamps, tax refunds...you know...that stuff the real citizens actually have to work for.


                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                        "In all of Syria, only 900 people voted against you, President Assad. What more could you desire?"

                        'THEIR - NAMES.'.....
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                        • #13
                          Only four countries ( Maybe it has changed meanwhile ) oblige their citizens to ''vote '' :Belgium, Chili ,Greece and Australia .
                          I don't know about Greece, Chili and Australia, but in Belgium, notwithstanding the law ( or because the law ) more than 10 % of the electors never ''vote '',and they are not punished . I know someone who has never voted ,he gave as reason : they are all thiefs .
                          Is he wrong ? (about his reason )
                          I said ''vote '' ,because the Belgian law does not oblige you to vote, but to enter the voting booth with a ballot,to remain there a few seconds and to depose your ballot . You are free to write on the ballot things as thiefs, etc .
                          That's why the proposal of the Californian Democrats is not only wrong and stupid,but also contraproductive : people who will be forced to wast their time to vote, will not vote for the party who forces them to vote .
                          I doubt also that the proposal will increase the number of people that vote .
                          In 2012 25 % of the number of potential electors were not registered and chose thus not to vote . and of the registered ones 27 % did not vote .
                          The proposal is only an attempt to force people to vote, hoping that more people will vote and that they will vote for the Democrats .

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ljadw View Post
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                            I said ''vote '' ,because the Belgian law does not oblige you to vote, but to enter the voting booth with a ballot,to remain there a few seconds and to depose your ballot . You are free to write on the ballot things as thiefs, etc .
                            Well, you can lead the horse to water, but you can't prevent it from spitting it in the pool

                            The idea behind making the vote mandatory was to make it impossible - for employers for example, or landowners - to keep people from voting by various tricks of the trade.

                            Husbands preventing their wives from voting, that sort of thing.

                            It's a 19th - early 20th century thing mostly, in some cases it may still be useful today idk.
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                            • #15
                              It’s not mandatory to vote in Oz, just turn up. Once they cross your name of the roll you can walk out. But it’s only 5 minutes of your life every four years, if you can’t live with that then you must feel violated with everything in life, no mater how lame things are.
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