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  • Bloomberg replaces Biden as consolidated poll choice against Trump

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    Michael Bloomberg

    Former Mayor of New York City
    Michael Rubens Bloomberg is an American politician, businessman, and author. He was mayor of New York City from 2002 to 2013. He is a candidate in the Democratic Party primaries for the 2020 United States presidential election.Interesting stories


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    1964
    Graduated from Johns Hopkins University
    1966
    Graduated from Harvard Business School
    1981
    Bloomberg L.P. was founded
    2002
    Became mayor of NYC
    2018
    Largest donation to institution of higher education
    2019
    2020 presidential campaign
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    You can't depend on polls.

    We've shown the world that New York can never be defeated, because of its dynamic and diverse population and because it embodies the spirit of enterprise and the love of liberty. And because no matter who you are, if you believe in yourself and your dream, New York will always be the place for you.

    I think one of the great dangers here is going and categorizing anybody from one religion as a terrorist. That's not true... That would let the terrorists win. That's what they want us to do.

    I understand the appeal of a businessman president. But Trump's business plan is a disaster in the making.

    Because of my success in the private sector, I had the chance to run America's largest city for 12 years, governing in the wake of its greatest tragedy.



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      I have found bloomberg's apparent rise surprising and wonder if it because of the lack of enthusiasm for the existing candidates, genuine support for him or simply the result fo the fact that no one has bothered to target him with negative ads yet..
      The new guy always looks better than what you have.

      It will be interesting to see how he does once the public starts hearing about some of his negatives.
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        I don't think the DNC would accept him, he can't be bought which means he can't be controlled.

        This could be a repeat of 92 except we wont get Clinton, we'll get Trump's second term.
        "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
          I have found bloomberg's apparent rise surprising and wonder if it because of the lack of enthusiasm for the existing candidates, genuine support for him or simply the result fo the fact that no one has bothered to target him with negative ads yet..
          The new guy always looks better than what you have.

          It will be interesting to see how he does once the public starts hearing about some of his negatives.
          watch youtube and you will see one of the reasons for his rise.

          In the era of Trump can his negatives really matter. He will be a safe place for those middle of the road republicans to go.

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            Originally posted by craven View Post
            In the era of Trump can his negatives really matter. He will be a safe place for those middle of the road republicans to go.
            More like a safe place for the middle of the road democrats.

            From trying to control the size of soda drinks to his zeal against guns....very few republicans would vote for him in my opinion.

            If the DNC picks anyone else besides him to run against Trump, I can see him running as an independent which would probably have the same effect that Perot had on the GOP in 92.

            "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
              I have found bloomberg's apparent rise surprising and wonder if it because of the lack of enthusiasm for the existing candidates, genuine support for him or simply the result fo the fact that no one has bothered to target him with negative ads yet..
              The new guy always looks better than what you have.

              It will be interesting to see how he does once the public starts hearing about some of his negatives.
              One of the reason is because his marketing approach and late entry has not put him (yet) in front of cameras trying to answer difficult questions during debates, interviews and town hall events. Heck, I do not even know if he bothers to talk to common people in such events or if he tells to potential voters " go see my secretary." (sarcasm intended).
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              • #8
                Originally posted by craven View Post

                watch youtube and you will see one of the reasons for his rise.

                In the era of Trump can his negatives really matter. He will be a safe place for those middle of the road republicans to go.
                I can't get away from his ads

                Perhaps, but I question whether the dems can offer a candidate that would appeal to the middle of the road right now.
                I recognize that I view dems from the perspective of a conservative, but I wonder if there is a "moderate" anymore.
                Consider Bill Clinton's positions on abortion (safe, legal and rare) entitlements (workfare) or immigration. Or Obama's original position on things like marriage and immigration. I don't get the idea they would be acceptable anymore.

                Perhaps I have been jaded into thinking that people like AOC have more say in the party's direction than is truly the case.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                  More like a safe place for the middle of the road democrats.

                  From trying to control the size of soda drinks to his zeal against guns....very few republicans would vote for him in my opinion.

                  If the DNC picks anyone else besides him to run against Trump, I can see him running as an independent which would probably have the same effect that Perot had on the GOP in 92.
                  I agree with every point, even if he ran as an independent he wouldn't get my vote just because of his stance on guns alone!
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                  • #10
                    Yep...Bloomberg is another anti-constitutionalist. We don't need another one of those.
                    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                      I can't get away from his ads

                      Perhaps, but I question whether the dems can offer a candidate that would appeal to the middle of the road right now.
                      I recognize that I view dems from the perspective of a conservative, but I wonder if there is a "moderate" anymore.
                      Consider Bill Clinton's positions on abortion (safe, legal and rare) entitlements (workfare) or immigration. Or Obama's original position on things like marriage and immigration. I don't get the idea they would be acceptable anymore.

                      Perhaps I have been jaded into thinking that people like AOC have more say in the party's direction than is truly the case.
                      AOC has a lot to say, none of it rational or comprehensible.
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                        Originally posted by Nichols View Post
                        I don't think the DNC would accept him, he can't be bought which means he can't be controlled.

                        This could be a repeat of 92 except we wont get Clinton, we'll get Trump's second term.
                        Why would big business need to control a president who is into big business?
                        In 1992 there was a recession and I think it was that election which gave us the "it is the economy stupid."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pamak View Post

                          Why would big business need to control a president who is into big business?
                          In 1992 there was a recession and I think it was that election which gave us the "it is the economy stupid."
                          Keep in mind, this ia only speculation.

                          I think the DNC would have the same problems trying to control Bloomberg as the GOP had originally with Trump.

                          I remember Perot being a challenger to Bush. With that being said, the votes that Perot got probably helped Clinton more than Bush.
                          "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                            Keep in mind, this ia only speculation.

                            I think the DNC would have the same problems trying to control Bloomberg as the GOP had originally with Trump.

                            I remember Perot being a challenger to Bush. With that being said, the votes that Perot got probably helped Clinton more than Bush.
                            Well, as I said, I am not expressing any confidence in political outcomes because besides of the inherent challenges of predicting the future, one needs to also have a good knowledge of the science involved around the factors and indicators which affect (or reveal in advance) such political outcomes.

                            Anyway, my take is that I see more probable to have a person which is relatively new in the field nd wants to build a profile who is also much closer to conservatives, like Tulsi Gabbard, become this damaging third candidate.". Yes, there have been also "leftist" third candidates in the past (some greens) but these are people who are comfortable with the idea of getting a low percentage in elections. Bloomberg (at least in my estimation) will want to go big and either have a good 50-50 shot in winning the election or not run at all. And I see him as being too close to the Democrats (and more importantly too far away from conservatives) to get many voters from both the progressive and the conservative block.
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                            • #15
                              Bloomberg has been flooding news channels with his advertisements- he bought a lot of space
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