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  • Martin Luther King Day

    Today is a National/Federal holiday named after Martin Luther King. He was truly the greatest bi partisan revolutionary/activist mind in the history of the United States.

    Racism and the Equal Rights Movement will always be what he was best known for but he was against poverty for all races and against the war in Vietnam. He also was an activist for housing, better education, and equal opportunity employment for all races.

    I am surprised that of all of our Democratic Socialist Liberal members with Trump Derangement Syndrome that are so fast to comment on our POTUS in a degrading manner not one mentioned that today is MLK day.
    Theo mir ist die munition ausgegangen ich werde diesen ramman auf wiedersehen uns in walhalla

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    Happy MLK day,

    Kurt you said,

    I am surprised that of all of our Democratic Socialist Liberal members with Trump Derangement Syndrome that are so fast to comment on our POTUS in a degrading manner not one mentioned that today is MLK day.


    You dont have to say that. Fellow posters are busy, and for all we know there ae no Socialists posters here on ACG. I dont talk about GOP like that even though some conservative radio and tv mock Democrats. I understand you get frustrated when people mock and berate conservatives but dont stoop to their level, I dont stoop to the level of some conservatives that mock and deride FDR. Just because some Tv anchors and some Americans are vehemently critical of Trump does not mean all liberals are bad. The Democratic party led the allies in WW2. Democrats make up a huge amount of Vietnam Veterans that worked a steel or auto job as well.




    Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
    Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

    George S Patton

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
      Happy MLK day,

      Kurt you said,

      I am surprised that of all of our Democratic Socialist Liberal members with Trump Derangement Syndrome that are so fast to comment on our POTUS in a degrading manner not one mentioned that today is MLK day.


      You dont have to say that. Fellow posters are busy, and for all we know there ae no Socialists posters here on ACG. I dont talk about GOP like that even though some conservative radio and tv mock Democrats. I understand you get frustrated when people mock and berate conservatives but dont stoop to their level, I dont stoop to the level of some conservatives that mock and deride FDR. Just because some Tv anchors and some Americans are vehemently critical of Trump does not mean all liberals are bad. The Democratic party led the allies in WW2. Democrats make up a huge amount of Vietnam Veterans that worked a steel or auto job as well.



      The Democratic Party also led the Confederates during the ACW. Times change. Democrats during the Civil War and World War Two are not the same as they are today.
      Theo mir ist die munition ausgegangen ich werde diesen ramman auf wiedersehen uns in walhalla

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      • #4
        On XM Radio on Urban View... Lauren Coates was talking about how many of MLKs followers did not agree with MLK Jr on opposing the Vietnam war. A lot of prominent Americans opposed the Vietnam war, heck some Vietnam Vets opposed the war.
        Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
        Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

        George S Patton

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kurt Knispel View Post

          The Democratic Party also led the Confederates during the ACW. Times change. Democrats during the Civil War and World War Two are not the same as they are today.
          Yes I'm aware of the dixiecrats. We also know there were republicans that supported slavery and later republicans that opposed the civil rights movements.

          Either way some liberals argue today that yesterdays dixicrats are todays GOP. So what about that?

          Im about respecting the American past. You wont see me out their overtly mocking conservatives.

          Well I take the approach that the USA even during the early and mid 20th century was probably the most liberal country in the world. And its not just the Axis powers, for example Ethiopia had legal slavery until ironically Fascist Italy ended Slavery upon taking over Ethiopia in 1937.The British Empire was criticized for its actions in India in the years up to WW2. And the list goes on and on, all in all the USA was IMO the most liberal country in the world in the early to mid 20th century. FDR was through his wife a supporter of black rights. Mary Bethuane for example was a African American lady that worked for FDR, Roosevelt was impressed by blacks such as Bethuane. Roosevelt was deeply admired by the Tuskegee Airman as well. And finally one of the most beloved GOP members, Ronald Reagan(you like him right?) said that FDR was his hero.
          Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
          Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

          George S Patton

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
            On XM Radio on Urban View... Lauren Coates was talking about how many of MLKs followers did not agree with MLK Jr on opposing the Vietnam war. A lot of prominent Americans opposed the Vietnam war, heck some Vietnam Vets opposed the war.
            Not everyone agrees on everything. I happen to think the Vietnam War was unnecessary. Especially in the way it was conducted by the LBJ administration. However I am extremely opposed to all of those hippy peace sign wearing activists, starting with Miss Jane Fonda, who criticized our young men and women who served in Vietnam. A soldier follows orders and does his/her duty. The saying " " Theirs not to reason why Theirs but to do or die" from the poem The Charge Of The Light Brigade will always trump (no pun intended) all else.
            Theo mir ist die munition ausgegangen ich werde diesen ramman auf wiedersehen uns in walhalla

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            • #7
              Kurt I agree with you that black folks were mostly GOP supporters before the FDR era. But FDR earned the support of masses of black Americans. There were democrats at the highest levels prior to the 1960s that worked tirelessly for improved rights for all.. Biggest of all FDR got us out of the depression. I can personally say my Grandpa(worked at Bethlehem Steel) and Dad(worked at Ford) worked alongside blacks, Muslims, Jews you name it all sorts of minorities since before WW2.

              In 1932, about 70% of blacks voted for Republican Herbert Hoover but by 1936 a historic realignment began. Most Blacks were poor before the Great Depression and they continued suffering, even more than whites, during it; black poverty and unemployment rates were about twice as high than for whites. Though Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal policies did not target black poverty—and Southern Democrats managed to carve out huge, racist exceptions that severely disadvantaged blacks—millions of blacks benefited. FDR’s wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, also pushed him toward black equality, earning her the enmity of sexists and racists alike.

              As a result of tangible gains, African Americans started voting Democratic. In 1936 71% voted for FDR, perhaps the single most dramatic shift of any group of American voters in a four-year period.


              https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/164673




              MLK Jr and Malcolm X played a role in the 1960s of improving civil rights even more. And even today there is work to do wrt for example lgbt rights.


              Kurt you talk about GOP members prior to MLk JR. Well Barry Goldwater opposed FDRS programs which greatly benefited blacks and other minorities. Goldwater, a leading Republican also opposed the 1964 civil rights act. We can see that through American history we have had liberal Republicans and Democrats, and we have had conservative Republicans and Democrats.

              Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
              Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

              George S Patton

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              • #8
                With all due respect to you Stonewall, and I agree with a lot of what you posted, we are already off topic. In my OP I was just pointing out that all of our Democratic Socialist Liberal members have the time to deride our POTUS but not one of them mentioned MLK on the holiday named for him. They are the same as the politicians they support. That is to say they are too busy supporting a witch hunt then more important matters.
                Theo mir ist die munition ausgegangen ich werde diesen ramman auf wiedersehen uns in walhalla

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kurt Knispel View Post

                  Not everyone agrees on everything. I happen to think the Vietnam War was unnecessary. Especially in the way it was conducted by the LBJ administration. However I am extremely opposed to all of those hippy peace sign wearing activists, starting with Miss Jane Fonda, who criticized our young men and women who served in Vietnam. A soldier follows orders and does his/her duty. The saying " " Theirs not to reason why Theirs but to do or die" from the poem The Charge Of The Light Brigade will always trump (no pun intended) all else.
                  How do you feel about how Nixon handled the Vietnam War?

                  I also would not have been one of those vehement anti Vietnam war protesters had I lived in the 1960s. The whole Vietnam War was a tough thing. I was born after the war so its difficult to provide an opinion on the event.


                  Do you agree with MLK Jr on opposing the Vietnam War?

                  I for one think I would disagree with that part of MLK JR in the sense I would not vehemently have opposed the Vietnam war. I think a public leader should get behind a war effort on his countries behalf when the country involved is the USA. Yes we are not perfect but even in the mid 20th century The USA was one of the liberal countries...much of the world in the early- mid 20th century was not as free as the USA I would argue. I might have been saying if I lived in the 1960s for the USA to consider buying a part of Vietnam or bringing South Vietnam into the USA as a state.
                  Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                  Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                  George S Patton

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kurt Knispel View Post
                    With all due respect to you Stonewall, and I agree with a lot of what you posted, we are already off topic. In my OP I was just pointing out that all of our Democratic Socialist Liberal members have the time to deride our POTUS but not one of them mentioned MLK on the holiday named for him. They are the same as the politicians they support. That is to say they are too busy supporting a witch hunt then more important matters.
                    No problem. I dont think we are off topic. The people you speak of such as these Socialists exist, but IMO not on this board. You also made numerous points in your OP and I responded to them.
                    Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                    Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                    George S Patton

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                    • #11
                      It is interesting seeing which holidays members acknowledge and which ones they ignore.
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #12
                        As the original OP manages to include one large troll and personal comment against other forum members it's closed.
                        Re-read the forum rules please.
                        Thank you
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