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  • #31
    Originally posted by marktwain View Post

    Actually, the far right called him a 'muslim' because you people believe everything people like Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh write.
    I certainly don't recall Laura Bush,or her mother in law, or Nancy Reagan getting the nonsense , to put it diplomatically, that the Obamas, mother and daughter, had dumped on them.
    Actually, Obama was called a Muslim because he dressed like a Muslimcf76df214169539b9041636dc1cef976_xl.jpg


    What Republicans didn''t understand is how they're to interpret this. They assume he's a Muslim. Fair enough. But really, we're supposed to know he's a secular, Liberal Christian just dressing as a Muslim, and that it's enlightened. Now we know.
    "It is a fine fox chase, my boys"

    "It is well that war is so terrible-we would grow too fond of it"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by American87 View Post

      Obama didn't call it an apology tour, he called it "reckoning with history." https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...apology-223446 What some remember as the great days of FDR and American victory in WWII, Obama remembers as something we have to reckon with. It's demoralizing. But liberals love "reckoning with history," so Obama passes as an enlightened statesman. They miss these "reckoning" tours and Obama's "lead from behind" strategy.

      Conservatives called Obama a Muslim because he was photographed in Muslim garb. It was like Trudeau dressing in blackface or as an Indian, or whatever he's doing now. Liberals want to pass as multi-cultural and enlightened, but they don't want to be called on it. Obama can dress as a Muslim, but don't call him a Muslim. He's just a liberal Christian who dresses as a Muslim.

      And yeah, Kim Jung Un promised a Christmas present, and never delivered. Some people are waiting for the Trump-Kim Summit to be reversed, and to have North Korea go back to a war-mongering hermit state, but others like them being peaceful. North Korea should westernize, which is what I guess you mean by saying "liberalize," as far as South Korea has done, but that's on them, unless you want us to invade. For whatever it's worth to people, Trump has made more progress in this regard than any previous president.
      As for Obama and WW2, I read through your link but could not find Obama making a specific statement against the USA even in a mild way for its WW2 involvement. Otoh the US led Ronald Reagan in the 1980s put forth a bill to apologize for the US actions of WW2 wrt the intern of Japanese people in the USA..that was a GOP thing. But when Obama does something like that , some US conservatives complain and feel Obama whom acted probably less adamantly then Reagan wrt the US past, is some kind of Muslim anti American.

      Its a big deal for a US POTUS to meet with a man like Kim...we are not allies of NK like we were to the USSR in WW2. NK can hopefully become more open. Trump did meet with Kim, hope is from that NK can become more open which would benefit world trade including the USA.


      Trump and so many US politicians including Obama have worn Jewish religious garb when visiting Israel...liberals dont then call these Americans as Jews. But some conservatives that support Trump go after minorities IE Hispanics, Jews, Muslims. Trump is very much loved in Saudi Arabia he is not called a Muslim for that though.
      Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
      Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

      George S Patton

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      • #33
        Originally posted by American87 View Post

        Actually, Obama was called a Muslim because he dressed like a Muslimcf76df214169539b9041636dc1cef976_xl.jpg


        What Republicans didn''t understand is how they're to interpret this. They assume he's a Muslim. Fair enough. But really, we're supposed to know he's a secular, Liberal Christian just dressing as a Muslim, and that it's enlightened. Now we know.
        Actually, Obama is more of a secular Leftist Progressive. No Christian or Muslim in there.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

          Actually, Obama is more of a secular Leftist Progressive. No Christian or Muslim in there.
          Depends who you ask, TAG...

          He gave them his real name — a name that, with a quick Google search, would lead back to Infowars, with its headlines like “Inside Sources: Bin Laden’s Corpse Has Been on Ice for Nearly a Decade,” “Special Report: Why Obama Brought Ebola to U.S. Exposed” and “VIDEO: ‘Demon’ Caught on Camera During Obama Visit?” Those headlines could be described by many words, but none of them would be “debunking.”
          https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/m...-infowars.html
          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

            Actually, Obama is more of a secular Leftist Progressive. No Christian or Muslim in there.
            He’s a secular, leftist chrisian, which means a Christian who doesn’t take his religion very seriously.
            "It is a fine fox chase, my boys"

            "It is well that war is so terrible-we would grow too fond of it"

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            • #36
              Seems to be a lot of panties in bunches for a meaningless poll.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by American87 View Post

                Obama went on a world-wide apology tour his first year in office. Don't you remember his bowing to foreign dignitaries? And I guess Obama was ""Involved" in military decisions; he was the commander-in-chief, after all. And yeah, he praised Democrats. That's a bit self-serving, if you ask me. He called republicans terrorists and said they clung to guns and religion. That's hardly something future generations can look back on with pride. He was a partisan hack who felt America should be marginalized. But that's what other countries want to hear, and Democrats want to make other countries happy, so it passed for enlightened statesmanship.

                Trump's not a warhawk at all. He sets standards and keeps them, which is why he bombed Syria and ISIS, two things Obama could have done. Because he follows through on his promises, Trump has ensured peace where others failed. Kim Jung-Un and Putin both like him, and we haven't had any crazy missle threats or Russian aggrandizement since he bombed Syria, proving that he would stand up for American interests.

                Obama was the Apoligizer-in-Chief, if you're into that sort of thing and buy into the Liberal, "America is an evil imperalist" narrative of history. Trump wants every American to do well. It's just that Democrats and Republicans have different views on America's identity.
                um have you not paid attention to the news of as late Kim been threatening rockets stuff for the past month. We are suppose to get a Xmas present from him. But think he had technical issues.

                And incase you haven't been paying attention Russia has gotten almost all it foreign policy goals US out of Syria check. Access to a Med Port Check. Ukraine weakened check. closer ties to Turkey Check.

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