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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    No, my concerns are based on the inept performance of Trump as president and the incompetence, duplicity and general dishonesty of the present administration.
    No, You said "Trump's policies might very well put the US on the path to a recession"
    That is pure speculation and a "what-mightism"

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by marktwain View Post

    Why would anyone WANT wood without moose markers?
    Those that live overlooking the sea. Screenshot 2019-12-31 at 6.48.56 PM.png

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Surrey View Post

    And how exactly were the Americans planning to 'force' Canadians to drink American milk? Were they planning to invade and force you at gun point to drink it?
    Actually, American access ( and Canadian moostuff going south) is industrial milk products and not drinkin' milk. Various reasons for this.
    Here is a good, concise guide to the milk disputes
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle34802291/

    For decades, 'Mericans have used non tariff barriers to harass our dairy industry....
    Last edited by marktwain; 31 Dec 19, 14:42.

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Salinator View Post

    The Chinese can duplicate Canadian wood for half the price and without the scent of moose markers.
    Why would anyone WANT wood without moose markers?

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  • Massena
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    No, my concerns are based on the inept performance of Trump as president and the incompetence, duplicity and general dishonesty of the present administration.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    I did. Comparing something Obama did or didn't do is a distraction from what Trump is doing and very different. That is nothing more than 'Whataboutism.'

    And Obama's policies, like them or not, pulled the US out of the recession and set the economy on course. Trump's policies very well might put the US on the path to a recession. The economy is beginning to slow down.

    If it does, what will you and others do then? Still blame Obama? Get a grip and grow up. All you're doing is supporting a corrupt president no matter what he does and fill the forum with distractions in order to 'protect' Trump. That is nothing more than partisan politics.
    So now you are posting what ifs, "Trumps policies might put the US on the path to a resession."
    that is a what if. And one that is becoming harder to defend, as witnessed when Obama applied them, and when the Trump administration follow Obama's example.

    When Obama placed tariffs the same what ifs were thrown about. But Obama and Trump as well as anyone sitting in the oval office has very few tools to work with when trying to leverage China to practice fair trade.

    Your concerns are based in partisanship.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Address the context...
    I did. Comparing something Obama did or didn't do is a distraction from what Trump is doing and very different. That is nothing more than 'Whataboutism.'

    And Obama's policies, like them or not, pulled the US out of the recession and set the economy on course. Trump's policies very well might put the US on the path to a recession. The economy is beginning to slow down.

    If it does, what will you and others do then? Still blame Obama? Get a grip and grow up. All you're doing is supporting a corrupt president no matter what he does and fill the forum with distractions in order to 'protect' Trump. That is nothing more than partisan politics.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    That is 'Whataboutism' one of the 4Ds of Disinformation.

    1.Dismiss:
    Attack critics to erode their credibility and invalidate the facts.

    2.Distort:
    If the facts are against you, make up your own facts.

    3.Distract: (also known as Whataboutism).
    If you're accused, accuse someone else of the same thing.

    4.Dismay:
    The use of threats and intimidation.
    Address the context, Obama proudly pointed out his use of tariffs. Did you express your outrage?

    At the time I thought Obama had done the right thing, Interestingly Chuck Schumer has supported Trump in his attempt to forge new trade agreements with China, Mexico and Canada

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  • Massena
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    You prefer Chinese products to Canadian products? Typical.

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post

    Canada doesn’t force the US to buy our softwood lumber you've been buying it since we first became a country you guys buy it because it’s the best wood it grows in a frigid climate that makes it stronger than any other softwood lumber
    The Chinese can duplicate Canadian wood for half the price and without the scent of moose markers.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    My point that Canada has practiced tariffs on our goods for decades and nobody gave it a second thought. China has had tariffs on some of our products nobody gave it a second thought,
    Australia also has tariffs in the way of taxes on US imported goods, did you or anyone else notice? Nope....
    The EU has placed tariffs on some US goods....Did you care?
    Not for one moment …
    But when an American president uses the same tool other nations have used against our goods he is the bad guy.
    Pure partisanship, because here is the clincher
    Obama place tariffs on solar panels , tires, and steel , here is a quote from Pres. Obama,

    President Obama stated on Jan. 24, 2012
    : “I will not stand by when our competitors don’t play by the rules. We’ve brought trade cases against China at nearly twice the rate as the last administration – and it’s made a difference. Over a thousand Americans are working today because we stopped a surge in Chinese tires. But we need to do more. It’s not right when another country lets our movies, music, and software be pirated. It’s not fair when foreign manufacturers have a leg up on ours only because they’re heavily subsidized.”
    https://www.prosperousamerica.org/ob..._trump_tariffs
    That is 'Whataboutism' one of the 4Ds of Disinformation.

    1.Dismiss:
    Attack critics to erode their credibility and invalidate the facts.

    2.Distort:
    If the facts are against you, make up your own facts.

    3.Distract: (also known as Whataboutism).
    If you're accused, accuse someone else of the same thing.

    4.Dismay:
    The use of threats and intimidation.

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Now I'm going to have The Lumberjack Song in my head all night!

    https://youtu.be/pfRdur8GLBM​​​​​​​
    Just when you thought your nightmares were over......

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by marktwain View Post


    The hormones in American milk make otherwise virile Canadian men grow big tits.....
    Now I'm going to have The Lumberjack Song in my head all night!

    https://youtu.be/pfRdur8GLBM​​​​​​​

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    Where was the outrage over the ridiculously high tariffs Canada placed on US dairy products since the passing of NAFTA decades ago?

    The hormones in American milk make otherwise virile Canadian men grow big tits.....

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  • Surrey
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    Originally posted by Bow View Post

    This of course was after the US attempted to force us < Canada< to buy American milk, which I avoid buying at any time....t
    And how exactly were the Americans planning to 'force' Canadians to drink American milk? Were they planning to invade and force you at gun point to drink it?

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