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  • Will Republican Senators Vote for Impeachment?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/16/polit...ers/index.html

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's high-profile push for witnesses to testify in the Senate's expected impeachment trial of President Donald Trump shifted attention and political pressure on Monday to a handful of Republican senators who have worked diligently to avoid the spotlight.

    The disparate group's views on the trial are a concern to the White House and GOP leaders, who are worried some could break and vote with Democrats on key trial-related issues, sources tell CNN.

    If four of them were to buck calls from GOP leaders for a short, witness-free trial, it could upend the process and create the kind of wild uncertainty Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says he has been carefully "coordinating" to avoid in ongoing talks with top White House officials.

    The group includes moderates up for reelection, like Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who may want to show independence from Trump; seasoned veterans, like Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, who are retiring and who may not feel politically bound to support the President; and outright critics of Trump, like Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah, who have challenged his unorthodox presidency and who may want to learn more about the allegations of a quid pro quo with Ukraine that is at the heart of the impeachment.

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    How in the world could they possibly 'learn more' about the Ukraine crap when there was zero to learn in the first place?

    The biggest waste of time and money... can only hope the Dems have lost many votes in the future and continue to do so.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by dgfred View Post
        How in the world could they possibly 'learn more' about the Ukraine crap when there was zero to learn in the first place?
        Zero to learn in the first place? Interesting perspective, dangerous.

        The biggest waste of time and money... can only hope the Dems have lost many votes in the future and continue to do so.
        Wasn't there 9 BENGHAZI investigations that turned up no wrong doing and no crimes? That's called a waste of money.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
          Zero to learn in the first place? Interesting perspective, dangerous.
          If there was any "quid pro quo" from Trump Admin. it was far less and explicit than that of the Obama Admin as it directed Biden to engage in.

          BTW, if there is no "dirt" to be found, reopening an investigation the Obama Admin pressured the Ukraine to suspend will have no negative consequence to the DNC or Biden(s). In fact, would just further embarrass the Trump Admin.


          Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
          Wasn't there 9 BENGHAZI investigations that turned up no wrong doing and no crimes? That's called a waste of money.
          IIRC, they turned up a bit of "wrong doing" that a biased and Democrat dominated Deep State wasn't willing to consider a crime.
          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/16/polit...ers/index.html

            Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's high-profile push for witnesses to testify in the Senate's expected impeachment trial of President Donald Trump shifted attention and political pressure on Monday to a handful of Republican senators who have worked diligently to avoid the spotlight.

            The disparate group's views on the trial are a concern to the White House and GOP leaders, who are worried some could break and vote with Democrats on key trial-related issues, sources tell CNN.

            If four of them were to buck calls from GOP leaders for a short, witness-free trial, it could upend the process and create the kind of wild uncertainty Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says he has been carefully "coordinating" to avoid in ongoing talks with top White House officials.

            The group includes moderates up for reelection, like Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who may want to show independence from Trump; seasoned veterans, like Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, who are retiring and who may not feel politically bound to support the President; and outright critics of Trump, like Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah, who have challenged his unorthodox presidency and who may want to learn more about the allegations of a quid pro quo with Ukraine that is at the heart of the impeachment.
            You may see an agreement for censure
            The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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            • #7
              Hey a getting your donkey before the cart? The House hasn't impeached the President yet. And even if they do the Senate does not Impeach they conduct a trial on the charges brought by the House....which is called impeachment.

              Civics lesson #1 from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impe..._United_States

              Impeachment
              in the United States is the process by which the lower house of a legislature brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. ...
              Too Much To Do Too Little Time

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              • #8
                EXCERPT:
                ...
                During a recent broadcast of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh took a deeper dive into the real reasons the Democrats want to impeach Trump.

                Limbaugh claimed it all boiled down to style.

                “What this is really all about, and you know it, they hate the guy, they cannot stand the way he talks, they can’t stand the politically incorrect posture that he assumes each and every day. But more importantly, they have bought into a bunch of lies. It was the Obama administration that built cages to put the children of people seeking asylum in when they came in illegally. Trump didn’t do that, but these people have got themselves convinced of this and any number of other outrages,” Limbaugh explained.

                According to Rush, Trump violated the fundamental principle of making fun of the left.

                “They know he hasn’t violated the Constitution. What he has a violated is their codes, their mandates, their ideas of what’s proper and improper. And what those ideas are is basically you can’t criticize them, you can’t make fun of them, you can’t criticize them, and you can’t disagree with them. And if you do, you’re bordering on criminality in their America. And they’re gonna come after you. And they’re gonna do whatever it takes to get your mind right,” Limbaugh stated.

                Liberals can never be made fun of.

                Republicans are supposed to treat liberals as serious, sober-minded patriots while Democrats savage conservatives as racists, sexists, and homophobes.

                Prior to Trump, Republicans constantly played defense because they hewed to the rules of engagement as established by major institutions in American politics such as the fake news media that the left all control.

                That meant Republicans tried to engage in high-minded policy debates while the left hurled personal insults and emotional attacks on Republicans.

                Donald Trump changed that calculus.

                Trump’s fighting back against the left using the left’s methods and means were a big part of his appeal in 2016 and key to his success.
                ...
                https://blackeyepolitics.com/rush-li...peachment-lie/
                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                  If there was any "quid pro quo" from Trump Admin. it was far less and explicit than that of the Obama Admin as it directed Biden to engage in.
                  Trump withheld congressionally approved aid on purpose, without anyone's knowledge. And was going to continue holding the aid until his request was met.
                  I'd love to hear about your Obama/Biden conspiracy. Tell me more. But use google to fact check it first.

                  BTW, if there is no "dirt" to be found, reopening an investigation the Obama Admin pressured the Ukraine to suspend will have no negative consequence to the DNC or Biden(s). In fact, would just further embarrass the Trump Admin.
                  ? Hit me with the conspiracy theory already! I'm ready for InfoWars material!

                  IIRC, they turned up a bit of "wrong doing" that a biased and Democrat dominated Deep State wasn't willing to consider a crime.
                  The deep state runs Fox and the republican party. They're intertwined. You still haven't figured out that republican elitists are intentionally targeting conservatives on purpose?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                    EXCERPT:
                    ...
                    During a recent broadcast of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh took a deeper dive into the real reasons the Democrats want to impeach Trump.

                    Limbaugh claimed it all boiled down to style.

                    “What this is really all about, and you know it, they hate the guy, they cannot stand the way he talks, they can’t stand the politically incorrect posture that he assumes each and every day. But more importantly, they have bought into a bunch of lies. It was the Obama administration that built cages to put the children of people seeking asylum in when they came in illegally. Trump didn’t do that, but these people have got themselves convinced of this and any number of other outrages,” Limbaugh explained.

                    According to Rush, Trump violated the fundamental principle of making fun of the left.

                    “They know he hasn’t violated the Constitution. What he has a violated is their codes, their mandates, their ideas of what’s proper and improper. And what those ideas are is basically you can’t criticize them, you can’t make fun of them, you can’t criticize them, and you can’t disagree with them. And if you do, you’re bordering on criminality in their America. And they’re gonna come after you. And they’re gonna do whatever it takes to get your mind right,” Limbaugh stated.

                    Liberals can never be made fun of.

                    Republicans are supposed to treat liberals as serious, sober-minded patriots while Democrats savage conservatives as racists, sexists, and homophobes.

                    Prior to Trump, Republicans constantly played defense because they hewed to the rules of engagement as established by major institutions in American politics such as the fake news media that the left all control.

                    That meant Republicans tried to engage in high-minded policy debates while the left hurled personal insults and emotional attacks on Republicans.

                    Donald Trump changed that calculus.

                    Trump’s fighting back against the left using the left’s methods and means were a big part of his appeal in 2016 and key to his success.
                    ...
                    https://blackeyepolitics.com/rush-li...peachment-lie/
                    Thanks for pointing out how much of a conspiracy theorist Rush is. Everything he says is designed to trick you emotionally.

                    Rush = Republican Elitist Insider

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

                      Thanks for pointing out how much of a conspiracy theorist Rush is. Everything he says is designed to trick you emotionally.

                      Rush = Republican Elitist Insider
                      The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                        EXCERPT:
                        ...
                        During a recent broadcast of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh took a deeper dive into the real reasons the Democrats want to impeach Trump.

                        Limbaugh claimed it all boiled down to style.

                        “What this is really all about, and you know it, they hate the guy, they cannot stand the way he talks, they can’t stand the politically incorrect posture that he assumes each and every day. But more importantly, they have bought into a bunch of lies. It was the Obama administration that built cages to put the children of people seeking asylum in when they came in illegally. Trump didn’t do that, but these people have got themselves convinced of this and any number of other outrages,” Limbaugh explained.

                        According to Rush, Trump violated the fundamental principle of making fun of the left.

                        “They know he hasn’t violated the Constitution. What he has a violated is their codes, their mandates, their ideas of what’s proper and improper. And what those ideas are is basically you can’t criticize them, you can’t make fun of them, you can’t criticize them, and you can’t disagree with them. And if you do, you’re bordering on criminality in their America. And they’re gonna come after you. And they’re gonna do whatever it takes to get your mind right,” Limbaugh stated.

                        Liberals can never be made fun of.

                        Republicans are supposed to treat liberals as serious, sober-minded patriots while Democrats savage conservatives as racists, sexists, and homophobes.

                        Prior to Trump, Republicans constantly played defense because they hewed to the rules of engagement as established by major institutions in American politics such as the fake news media that the left all control.

                        That meant Republicans tried to engage in high-minded policy debates while the left hurled personal insults and emotional attacks on Republicans.

                        Donald Trump changed that calculus.

                        Trump’s fighting back against the left using the left’s methods and means were a big part of his appeal in 2016 and key to his success.
                        ...
                        https://blackeyepolitics.com/rush-li...peachment-lie/
                        I am not a Limbaugh fan but he is right, Trump calls out democRats in English what democRats have been calling republicans in cloaked language for years. I hate DemocRats!
                        Last edited by Trung Si; 22 Dec 19, 10:35.
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                        • #13
                          Two posts that addressed the poster and not the post were removed.
                          Next person who repeats that error in this thread will get some time off.
                          This isn't a new concept on this forum and none of you are new here.
                          Thank you
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dgfred View Post
                            How in the world could they possibly 'learn more' about the Ukraine crap when there was zero to learn in the first place?

                            The biggest waste of time and money... can only hope the Dems have lost many votes in the future and continue to do so.
                            Democrats are the do nothing Communist Party.

                            Pretty funny that everything they do is an attempt to violate the Constitution or break the law, and then point the finger at the Republicans to cover up their policy of corruption. Wait for the next Civil War to clean the House.
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                            My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                            As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                            No lie.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                              Trump withheld congressionally approved aid on purpose, without anyone's knowledge. And was going to continue holding the aid until his request was met.
                              I'd love to hear about your Obama/Biden conspiracy. Tell me more. But use google to fact check it first.


                              ? Hit me with the conspiracy theory already! I'm ready for InfoWars material!


                              The deep state runs Fox and the republican party. They're intertwined. You still haven't figured out that republican elitists are intentionally targeting conservatives on purpose?
                              Joe Biden held the aid and admitted it on camera, corrupt Democrats give him a free pass.
                              My worst jump story:
                              My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                              As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                              No lie.

                              ~
                              "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
                              -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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