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    Elizabeth Warren and Berne Sanders have both stated that if elected, they would with hold US military and foreign aid funding to Israel unless they change their stand on Palestine.
    Should Congress start the impeachment hearing on them now, or wait till to see if they get elected?


    https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/warren-withhold-u-s-aid-israel-doesnt-wants/

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/U...eet-conference
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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    Only non-Democrats are held accountable...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
        Elizabeth Warren and Berne Sanders have both stated that if elected, they would with hold US military and foreign aid funding to Israel unless they change their stand on Palestine.
        Should Congress start the impeachment hearing on them now, or wait till to see if they get elected?


        https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/warren-withhold-u-s-aid-israel-doesnt-wants/

        https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/U...eet-conference
        That is a policy statement and a campaign promise, not the same thing.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
          Elizabeth Warren and Berne Sanders have both stated that if elected, they would with hold US military and foreign aid funding to Israel unless they change their stand on Palestine.
          Should Congress start the impeachment hearing on them now, or wait till to see if they get elected?


          https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/warren-withhold-u-s-aid-israel-doesnt-wants/

          https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/U...eet-conference
          First, you cannot impeach either a Senator or a Congressman.

          Second, this is not the same as what Trump has done. Giving excuses for Trump's wrongdoing is apparently a Republican trait. Trump was using quid pro quo/bribery for his own personal and political gain. This isn't it.

          What are you going to make up next? Strawman arguments don't help the situation at all.

          That being said I don't care for either Warren or Sanders-both are radicals and are not needed at all.
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Massena View Post

            First, you cannot impeach either a Senator or a Congressman.

            Second, this is not the same as what Trump has done. Giving excuses for Trump's wrongdoing is apparently a Republican trait. Trump was using quid pro quo/bribery for his own personal and political gain. This isn't it.

            What are you going to make up next? Strawman arguments don't help the situation at all.

            That being said I don't care for either Warren or Sanders-both are radicals and are not needed at all.

            Does that mean that if Biden is elected we can impeach him on day one?
            Last edited by Tsar; 16 Dec 19, 10:15.
            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tsar View Post


              Does that mean that if Biden is elected we can impeach him on day one?
              For what? The conspiracy theory that the radical Republicans are peddling? Smoking mirrors and made up rubbish.
              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Massena View Post

                First, you cannot impeach either a Senator or a Congressman.

                Second, this is not the same as what Trump has done. Giving excuses for Trump's wrongdoing is apparently a Republican trait. Trump was using quid pro quo/bribery for his own personal and political gain. This isn't it.

                What are you going to make up next? Strawman arguments don't help the situation at all.

                That being said I don't care for either Warren or Sanders-both are radicals and are not needed at all.
                Stay on topic, The OP has nothing to do with Trump, It is about to Democrat presidential candidates, it is a bit cheeky.
                If either of these windbags get elected withholding foreign aid and military support to force a nation to do your will is quid pro quo.
                Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                • #9
                  Fact is, without quid quo pro, no bill would ever make it through congress.
                  Just look at all the bills that have riders added to them that have absolutely nothing to do with the intent or purpose of the initial bill.
                  Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                  Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                    Elizabeth Warren and Berne Sanders have both stated that if elected, they would with hold US military and foreign aid funding to Israel unless they change their stand on Palestine.
                    Should Congress start the impeachment hearing on them now, or wait till to see if they get elected?


                    https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/warren-withhold-u-s-aid-israel-doesnt-wants/

                    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/U...eet-conference
                    Start now. The Dems have already declared that a criminal act.
                    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                      Elizabeth Warren and Berne Sanders have both stated that if elected, they would with hold US military and foreign aid funding to Israel unless they change their stand on Palestine.
                      Should Congress start the impeachment hearing on them now, or wait till to see if they get elected?


                      https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/warren-withhold-u-s-aid-israel-doesnt-wants/

                      https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/U...eet-conference
                      Well if true that is a tremendous move and that is so beautiful to hear. You will also note that me and many other Democrats are against the impeachment of Trump, we see that there are greater issues at hand like jobs in our country as well as foreign relations.

                      We give Israel $3 billion a year and get nothing in return. And not only this but we don’t need to be giving Israel all that money and it would make Israel look better to the world if that was not the case. We can imagine masses of Israels don’t even want the aid because they’re capable them selves.

                      Another controversial ally of Our country is Saudi Arabia but at least they give the United States billions of dollars for arms deals.

                      Saudi Arabia and Israel have recently come closer together. The hope is that the US leader ship will also get involved to have both countries improve socially because while yes Israel is more advanced than most Muslim majority countries there is still work to be done in Israel.
                      Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                      Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                      George S Patton

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