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  • Why is Giuliani in Kiev?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/giuliani-is-in-kyiv-and-ukrainian-officials-are-steering-clear/ar-BBXPefu?ocid=spartandhp

    Rudy Giuliani, whose work in Ukraine is at the heart of U.S. impeachment proceedings, is back in the country -- and officials in Kyiv appear to be keeping their distance.


    People with knowledge of his trip say Giuliani flew into Kyiv from Budapest on Wednesday, the same day that U.S. hearings stemming from his shadow diplomacy in Ukraine kicked over to the House Judiciary Committee. Social media postings show him meeting with current and previous Ukrainian political figures as part of a cable news documentary series that’s critical of the impeachment inquiry.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...ne-cpt-vpx.cnn


      Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) discusses the role of President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani with CNN's Chris Cuomo after The New York Times reported Giuliani traveled to Hungary and Ukraine to meet with former Ukrainian prosecutors about the impeachment inquiry into Trump.


      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #5
          Somebody evidently does because of the impeachment inquiry. Or don't you actually pay attention to what goes on?
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            Somebody evidently does because of the impeachment inquiry. Or don't you actually pay attention to what goes on?
            There's an impeachment inquiry going on?
            Wow, we didn't know

            Maybe you should start a thread(s) about it...

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            • #7
              Feeding conspiracy theories which are being swallowed whole by the right:

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

              Even as the House of Representatives began drafting charges against President Trump this week, his private attorney, who many believe is partly responsible for leading Trump on the path to his likely impeachment, made an audacious trip to the country at the center of the scandal.

              Rudolph W. Giuliani departed Kyiv after meeting with a range of Ukrainians who have been feeding him unproven allegations against former vice president Joe Biden and helping construct a counternarrative that is taking hold in the Republican Party. The latter story line asserts that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election, including with the baseless theory that Ukraine, rather than Russia, was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee.


              The purported purpose of the trip was to conduct interviews for a documentary on a right-wing media network. But Giuliani’s travel also appeared designed to send a broader and more brazen signal of the disregard that he and Trump have for the unfolding impeachment process.
              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #8
                Rudy is in Ukraine to speak with operatives he's been associated with. He had to travel there to meet in person. Of course he's a shady character, corrupt too

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  Just because I don't feel like looking for another meme. Repost.
                  Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                      Rudy is in Ukraine to speak with operatives he's been associated with. He had to travel there to meet in person. Of course he's a shady character, corrupt too
                      There is also the possibility that he is arranging - political asylum. the Ghost of G. Gordon Liddy may have warned him that Odessa is more congenial than Fort Leavenworth....
                      The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                      • #12
                        More problems in Ukraine: Will this be a threat to US national security?

                        https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/europ...ntl/index.html

                        As the US pushes forward with impeachment hearings into President Donald Trump and his dealings with Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian leader is set to sit down Monday with the man overseeing another conflict involving his country: Russian President Vladimir Putin.


                        That five-year conflict, which began after Russia seized the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine and backed pro-Russian separatists in the Donbas, has claimed around 13,000 lives, and there has been no end in sight to the fighting.

                        Putin has kept his cards close ahead of the meeting. According to diplomatic and political observers, Kiev and Moscow are still far apart on what steps need to be taken to forge a more lasting peace. Zelensky will meet the leaders of France, Germany and Russia in Paris on Monday to discuss steps toward ending the struggle in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.

                        The conflict has been largely forgotten, at least in the United States, amid the drama over impeachment unfolding in Washington. That political furor itself flows from a controversial move by the Trump administration to withhold aid as the US President and his allies pressured Zelensky to dig up dirt on a political rival. Trump has denied the allegations.
                        Allegations that Putin also interfered with the 2016 US presidential election may also play into the impeachment process.
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #13
                          https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/polit...nts/index.html

                          Attorney General William Barr counseled President Donald Trump that his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani has become a liability for his administration, The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing people familiar with the conversations.


                          In one instance, the Post said, Barr warned Trump that Giuliani was not serving him well as his lawyer, according to one person with knowledge of the situation.

                          Giuliani has long stirred alarm among the President's advisers who worry his foreign business dealings often make it unclear who he is representing, people familiar with the situation told the Post. The concerns, the newspaper said, have escalated since Giuliani emerged as a key player in the House impeachment inquiry into Trump's dealings with Ukraine.

                          CNN previously reported that investigators have been looking into Giuliani's business dealings in Ukraine and have dug into everything from possible financial entanglements with alleged corrupt Ukrainian figures to counterintelligence concerns raised by some of those business ties, according to people briefed on the matter.
                          The counterintelligence probe -- which indicates that FBI and criminal prosecutors in Manhattan are looking at a broader set of issues related to Giuliani -- hinges in part on whether a foreign influence operation was trying to take advantage of Giuliani's business ties in Ukraine and with wealthy foreigners to make inroads with the White House, according to one person briefed on the matter.
                          The Post and The New York Times also previously reported that Giuliani pursued hundreds of thousands of dollars in business from officials in Ukraine at the same time that he was using his connections there to unearth damaging information about former Vice President Joe Biden

                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

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                            • #15
                              I wonder how long this will last?

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp

                              Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Monday agreed to commit to a full and comprehensive implementation of a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine before the end of 2019, according to a joint communique.

                              Meeting face to face at a four-way summit with the leaders of France and Germany in Paris, all sides also agreed to push for an "all for all" prisoner exchange by the end of the year.

                              "The sides commit to a full and comprehensive implementation of the ceasefire, strengthened by the implementation of all necessary ceasefire support measures, before the end of the year 2019," the communique said.
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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