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    Last nights episode of Tucker Carlson was one for the ages, it was one of the most beneficial and pro middle class news reports in a long time on national tv.

    It was a breath of Fresh air to see A Picture of Henry Ford on National Tv followed by a reporter in Carlson explaining to Americans how the Richest Americans of the past also cared about the country...men such as Henry Ford whom as Carlson pointed out in 1914 doubled the wages of his workers. Such a move , unprecedented by Ford has been sighted by experts as a large reason for making the USA the best country in the world for the middle class. The USA awaits for a CEO of today to double his workers wages from say 14 to 28 an hour.

    Otoh modern day Billionaire Paul Singer as the report will show has committed actions that have wrecked the lives of middle class Americans. Paul Singer is no Henry Ford. Thats a problem with the USA today, we need better leadership.


    Most liberals and conservatives in The USA appreciate Ford, its why The Henry Ford museum is constantly visited for example. But its been awhile since a news station has covered the success of the American past when the middle and upper class thrived while also covering the modern day difference where upon our middle class is not as strong as it used to be.

    TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: If you’ve spent any time driving around America recently, you may have noticed that an awful lot of the country seems to have shriveled up and died. Take a trip on route two in Maine some time and count the boarded-up paper mills and abandoned houses. Or head down route 23 in Michigan or Ohio and consider the empty factories ringed with barbed wire. Outside the coastal cities, scenes like this are everywhere. Shuttered car dealerships, next to defunct restaurants, across the street from thrift stores and methadone clinics. Community after community, desiccated. Empty husks, with nothing left. Huge swaths of the United States look like this now. What happened?

    A lot of things, some of them complicated and hard to change. But one of the big factors in this slow-moving disaster is the utter transformation of the way our leaders think about the American economy. During the last gilded age, 125 years ago, America’s ruling class may have been ostentatiously rich, but it was still recognizably Amercian. Tycoons accumulated fortunes, but they also felt some obligation to the country around them. Steel tycoon Andrew Carnegie famously built stone libraries around the country, for the edification of the poor. John D. Rockefeller and many other so-called robber barons set aside huge portions of their wealth to make the country better. In January of 1914, Henry Ford more than doubled the prevailing factory wage, to a then-astounding five dollars for an eight hour day. Ford didn’t have to do it, but his company was succeeding and he thought he should. Some historians trace the creation of the American middle class to Henry Ford’s decision. Either way, it’s nearly impossible a big company doing anything like that today. Attitudes are just too different. Your average finance mogul looks at workers merely as costs to be reduced or eliminated. Private equity isn’t building a lot of public libraries these days.

    Instead the model is ruthless economic efficiency: buy a distressed company, outsource the jobs, liquidate the valuable assets, fire middle management, and once the smoke has cleared, dump what remains to the highest bidder, often in Asia. It has happened around the country. It has made a small number of people phenomenally rich. One of them is a New York-based Hedge Fund manager called Paul Singer, who according to Forbes has amassed a personal fortune of more than $3 billion dollars. Singer made a lot of his money by purchasing sovereign debt from financially-distressed countries, usually at a massive discount. Once a country’s economy regained some stability, Singer would bombard its government with lawsuits, until he made his money back with interest. The practice is called vulture capitalism — feeding off the carcass of a dying nation. In some ways, it’s not so different from what Singer and his firm, Elliott Management, have done in this country. Over the past couple of decades, Elliott has made billions by buying large stakes in American companies, firing workers, driving up short-term share prices, and in some cases, taking government bailouts. Bloomberg News has described Singer as “the world’s most feared investor,” which tells you a lot. No one’s even pretending Paul Singer’s tactics are good for anyone but Paul Singer and his fund.




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    As long as you understand that no one on Fox writes what they're reading off the teleprompter. What Tucker, Hannity, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Levin says is written by a carefully selected producer.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
      As long as you understand that no one on Fox writes what they're reading off the teleprompter. What Tucker, Hannity, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Levin says is written by a carefully selected producer.
      I agree that Fox News as well as CNN at times provides divisive news while not reported on issues effecting everyday Americans. And producers always play a role in the new shows. At least last night though it just so happened that it was Fox news that provided a report that was very good for the middle class. And it was also a report that was a praise of America’s past.

      Today some Republicans and some Democrats take money or give grants to businessmen that provide low paying jobs in low number with poor benefits...think of Elon Musk and Tesla getting a $1 billion grant from the Nys government and with that providing lackluster jobs with poor benefits.... I will also argue that American politicians of the past were more honorable and far more pro American then today.

      Problem is some Americans of today have been tricked into thinking that it’s wrong to raise the wages of workers. Henry Ford and a news report by Carlson totally proves that Wrong. The fox report shows us that the pro American and pro Christian way is to care about workers. Where as people like Paul singer are in the wrong. People like Henry Ford were in the right. Without a strong middle class our country is going to get worse and worse. There’s always hope and I feel confident the American spirit will come back and our middle class will improve.
      Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
      Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

      George S Patton

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      • #4
        Have you become a Henry Ford fan? He was an anti-Semite and violently resisted the UAW.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
          Last nights episode of Tucker Carlson was one for the ages, it was one of the most beneficial and pro middle class news reports in a long time on national tv.

          It was a breath of Fresh air to see A Picture of Henry Ford on National Tv followed by a reporter in Carlson explaining to Americans how the Richest Americans of the past also cared about the country...men such as Henry Ford whom as Carlson pointed out in 1914 doubled the wages of his workers. Such a move , unprecedented by Ford has been sighted by experts as a large reason for making the USA the best country in the world for the middle class. The USA awaits for a CEO of today to double his workers wages from say 14 to 28 an hour.

          Otoh modern day Billionaire Paul Singer as the report will show has committed actions that have wrecked the lives of middle class Americans. Paul Singer is no Henry Ford. Thats a problem with the USA today, we need better leadership.


          Most liberals and conservatives in The USA appreciate Ford, its why The Henry Ford museum is constantly visited for example. But its been awhile since a news station has covered the success of the American past when the middle and upper class thrived while also covering the modern day difference where upon our middle class is not as strong as it used to be.

          TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: If you’ve spent any time driving around America recently, you may have noticed that an awful lot of the country seems to have shriveled up and died. Take a trip on route two in Maine some time and count the boarded-up paper mills and abandoned houses. Or head down route 23 in Michigan or Ohio and consider the empty factories ringed with barbed wire. Outside the coastal cities, scenes like this are everywhere. Shuttered car dealerships, next to defunct restaurants, across the street from thrift stores and methadone clinics. Community after community, desiccated. Empty husks, with nothing left. Huge swaths of the United States look like this now. What happened?

          A lot of things, some of them complicated and hard to change. But one of the big factors in this slow-moving disaster is the utter transformation of the way our leaders think about the American economy. During the last gilded age, 125 years ago, America’s ruling class may have been ostentatiously rich, but it was still recognizably Amercian. Tycoons accumulated fortunes, but they also felt some obligation to the country around them. Steel tycoon Andrew Carnegie famously built stone libraries around the country, for the edification of the poor. John D. Rockefeller and many other so-called robber barons set aside huge portions of their wealth to make the country better. In January of 1914, Henry Ford more than doubled the prevailing factory wage, to a then-astounding five dollars for an eight hour day. Ford didn’t have to do it, but his company was succeeding and he thought he should. Some historians trace the creation of the American middle class to Henry Ford’s decision. Either way, it’s nearly impossible a big company doing anything like that today. Attitudes are just too different. Your average finance mogul looks at workers merely as costs to be reduced or eliminated. Private equity isn’t building a lot of public libraries these days.

          Instead the model is ruthless economic efficiency: buy a distressed company, outsource the jobs, liquidate the valuable assets, fire middle management, and once the smoke has cleared, dump what remains to the highest bidder, often in Asia. It has happened around the country. It has made a small number of people phenomenally rich. One of them is a New York-based Hedge Fund manager called Paul Singer, who according to Forbes has amassed a personal fortune of more than $3 billion dollars. Singer made a lot of his money by purchasing sovereign debt from financially-distressed countries, usually at a massive discount. Once a country’s economy regained some stability, Singer would bombard its government with lawsuits, until he made his money back with interest. The practice is called vulture capitalism — feeding off the carcass of a dying nation. In some ways, it’s not so different from what Singer and his firm, Elliott Management, have done in this country. Over the past couple of decades, Elliott has made billions by buying large stakes in American companies, firing workers, driving up short-term share prices, and in some cases, taking government bailouts. Bloomberg News has described Singer as “the world’s most feared investor,” which tells you a lot. No one’s even pretending Paul Singer’s tactics are good for anyone but Paul Singer and his fund.




          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...l_america.html
          Assembly line workers today make so much that we have priced American cars almost out of the market. And Ford was not a philanthropist. Everything he did, he did for his benefit and to amass his fortune. You might just as well claim that Carnegie built all those libraries because he loved the people. that he exploited to make his fortune.

          Ford wanted to keep his trained workforce intact, and that's really all that it was.

          Big companies can't increase wages like that today because the massive profit margins aren't there like they were for Ford, although Congress keeps on raising their own pay and benefits, so apparently it still works for some.

          Singer is just another robber baron playing the system, like Soros, the Clintons, the Obamas and our very own Congress who all manage to become millionaires on a salary of $174,000 a year. Obama, BTW, was the one who gave them all of those bailouts. "Too big to fail", remember?

          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by III Corps View Post
            Have you become a Henry Ford fan? He was an anti-Semite and violently resisted the UAW.
            Exactly. He also treated his own son very badly while almost destroying his own company though his arrogant and oppressive tactics. Not a nice human being at all.
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by III Corps View Post
              Have you become a Henry Ford fan? He was an anti-Semite and violently resisted the UAW.
              Henry ford is 'complicated' there is some speculation that he became unhinged (concealed to a great degree) DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR, AND schemes such as Brazil's Fordlandia nearly derailed the company.
              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Originally posted by III Corps View Post
                Have you become a Henry Ford fan? He was an anti-Semite and violently resisted the UAW.
                Exactly. He also treated his own son very badly while almost destroying his own company th[r]ough his arrogant and oppressive tactics. Not a nice human being at all.
                And he resisted aiding the WW2 effort to such a degree that the US Gov't backed Edsel's move to seize control of Ford Motor Co from the old man.

                Suffice to say, Henry Ford was a very . . . . complicated individual: industrious, thrifty, determined, creative, visionary -- but also obstinant, abusive, self-righteous, patronizing, and bigoted. A lot of adjectives apply to Henry Ford -- some very positive ones, too -- but "heroic" just isn't one of them.

                Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                Henry ford is 'complicated' there is some speculation that he became unhinged (concealed to a great degree) DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR, AND schemes such as Brazil's Fordlandia nearly derailed the company.
                Got to wonder if, as he aged, Henry Ford's worst failing was that he far too easily believed his own press clippings. I mean, yes, he was a very bright and creative man, but he was nowhere near the heroic figure that organs like The Dearborn Independent made him out to be.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by III Corps View Post
                  Have you become a Henry Ford fan? He was an anti-Semite and violently resisted the UAW.
                  Friend Unlike Trump whom has bashed women , disabled and Muslims and associates with those that are anti Semitic like his spiritual advisor .. Ford apologized for his anti Semitic news paper.


                  Ford is one of the greatest Americans to ever live he gave jobs to all sorts of Americans Jews Christians Muslims you name it. I covered in detail how Henry Ford’s apology to Jewish people of the world in another thread . which makes Ford a better man than Donald Trump who has never apologize for his poor remarks. All people say things they regret and it’s men like Henry Ford who apologizes for their mistakes


                  Long live Henry Ford for he stands a top of mountain. And you have Fox News and Tucker Carlson back me up on us to have conservatives back me up on this praise God

                  Apologies for any typos I’m sending this message from my phone as I’m working right now. Working hard in the spirit of Henry Ford
                  Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
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                  Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    Exactly. He also treated his own son very badly while almost destroying his own company though his arrogant and oppressive tactics. Not a nice human being at all.
                    Henry Ford was a hero to so many people in this country. As for Paul singer he doesn’t have Christian values or Christian ethics but Henry Ford did Praise God for that.

                    you’re wrong on this one. Because Ford did things like doubling the wages of his workers and Ford contributed tremendously to the Allied war effort. Anything else is pure propaganda it’s anti-American and it’s ugly to criticize Ford.

                    There is this beautiful picture of Franklin Roosevelt with Henry Ford touring a Ford plant during World War II. Here in Buffalo Ford made material for the Allied war effort. Don’t fall into the trap brother it is a terrible thing to be critical of Henry Ford that’s anti-American. Course to each their own perhaps we both feel strongly about this but it’s all about freedom of speech so if you want to be against ford that’s all on you but I will defend Ford just as millions others would
                    Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
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                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                    Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

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                    • #11
                      For the person who talked about ford being against unions ,

                      It has been posted numerous times on this board that during World War II Henry Ford finally came to an agreement with United auto workers. so that case is settled. Henry Ford’s name has been brought up numerous times on this board and he has been praised many times.
                      Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
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                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                      Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                        Henry ford is 'complicated' there is some speculation that he became unhinged (concealed to a great degree) DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR, AND schemes such as Brazil's Fordlandia nearly derailed the company.
                        Fordlandia failed because Ford refused to recognize the realities of rubber production in a equatorial rain forest. He expected workers to work their full shifts through the hottest parts of the day just as they would in one of his factories in Michigan or elsewhere. He held to labor standards, etc., that were unreasonable for the product.

                        For the good he did, Ford also had his bad side. He could be incredibly obstinate. He was a racist through and through. I don't buy his apology about his anti-Semitism for a New York second.
                        Ford thought unions were a bad thing... But with that you have to realize that he was treating his work force, for the time pretty damn good. Today, unions wouldn't get their foot in the door with such a company.

                        Ford, like some other big industrialists of the time George Pullman being a good example, also imposed social standards on his workers both at work and at home. In Pullman's case, these became so oppressive that it resulted in a general strike against his company that spread to other companies and was eventually put down by force using the US Army.

                        Ford, later, did admit this was a mistake on his part.

                        Ford was also a 33rd degree Freemason... Usually the Left holds that against someone with the usual conspiracy theories...

                        On the whole, Ford did change the face of industry and not just in America. But, he was as we all are, a flawed individual.



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                          And he resisted aiding the WW2 effort to such a degree that the US Gov't backed Edsel's move to seize control of Ford Motor Co from the old man.

                          Suffice to say, Henry Ford was a very . . . . complicated individual: industrious, thrifty, determined, creative, visionary -- but also obstinant, abusive, self-righteous, patronizing, and bigoted. A lot of adjectives apply to Henry Ford -- some very positive ones, too -- but "heroic" just isn't one of them.



                          Got to wonder if, as he aged, Henry Ford's worst failing was that he far too easily believed his own press clippings. I mean, yes, he was a very bright and creative man, but he was nowhere near the heroic figure that organs like The Dearborn Independent made him out to be.
                          Well Henry Ford was a hero to millions of Americans including my family members. It’s because of Henry Ford that I was able to grow up with parents that had good middle-class jobs. When one puts money into another’s pocket that is so beautiful. This thread showcases the point that Henry Ford was a wealthy man but he also had integrity and cared about fellow Americans. Let’s compare this to Paul singer who hasn’t really done a thing for the middle class.

                          Did Paul singer provide Americans millions of jobs? No he did not. That’s a point of this thread that there are good wealthy people and there wealthy people who only care about themselves and they do not mind if their actions wreck the lives of middle-class Americans.

                          Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                          Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                          George S Patton

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                            Fordlandia failed because Ford refused to recognize the realities of rubber production in a equatorial rain forest. He expected workers to work their full shifts through the hottest parts of the day just as they would in one of his factories in Michigan or elsewhere. He held to labor standards, etc., that were unreasonable for the product.

                            For the good he did, Ford also had his bad side. He could be incredibly obstinate. He was a racist through and through. I don't buy his apology about his anti-Semitism for a New York second.
                            Ford thought unions were a bad thing... But with that you have to realize that he was treating his work force, for the time pretty damn good. Today, unions wouldn't get their foot in the door with such a company.

                            Ford, like some other big industrialists of the time George Pullman being a good example, also imposed social standards on his workers both at work and at home. In Pullman's case, these became so oppressive that it resulted in a general strike against his company that spread to other companies and was eventually put down by force using the US Army.

                            Ford, later, did admit this was a mistake on his part.

                            Ford was also a 33rd degree Freemason... Usually the Left holds that against someone with the usual conspiracy theories...

                            On the whole, Ford did change the face of industry and not just in America. But, he was as we all are, a flawed individual.


                            Well at least Ford apologize for his past mistakes. That is entirely different from Donald J Trump who doesn’t apologize and who has not provided the types of middle-class jobs as Henry Ford has. Isnt it interesting that so many so-called liberals love wealthy powerful men such as Henry Ford. That’s America for you that’s as beautiful as it gets. Hey my dad and uncle are all democratic Irish Catholic union liberals. And yet some conservatives would have the world believe we hate wealth creators couldn’t be any further from the truth. Long live Henry Ford
                            Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                            Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                            George S Patton

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by III Corps View Post
                              Have you become a Henry Ford fan? He was an anti-Semite and violently resisted the UAW.
                              I thought you would’ve known friend I’ve always been a huge admirer of Henry Ford. I have praised the man countless times across this board

                              And your concerns have already been addressed. Ford Unlike trump apologized for his mistakes. And I am fully aware of who Harry Bennett was. Things happen mistakes are made not everyone is perfect. But in the end Ford teamed up with United auto workers and helped the allies win World War II. And lets not make it out as if the workers didn’t fight back against guys like Bennet they sure did my great grandpa was one of them. There might of been guys like Harry Bennett but for every Harry Bennett you better believe there was an American who stood up for themselves Like my great grandfather who led labor struggles in this country and my great uncle who served our country in World War II



                              Based on your previous posts I would’ve thought you would’ve also admired such a giant of history in Henry Ford ? What about building ones own business and creating wealth that’s what it’s all about right
                              Last edited by Stonewall_Jack; Yesterday, 09:14.
                              Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                              Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                              George S Patton

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