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  • Fact-checking House Republicans’ impeachment report defending Trump on Ukraine

    PolitiFact has fact-checked republican talking points in their report. This isn't news to me, but may be for some here.
    Here's some bullet points and the link below has further information on each topic.

    Claim: There’s no evidence that Trump directed anyone to pressure Ukraine

    "The impeachment inquiry has uncovered no clear evidence that President Trump directed Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Secretary Perry to work with Mayor Giuliani for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate his political rival."

    This claim is directly contradicted by testimony from Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union.

    Claim: The whistleblower report was misleading

    The whistleblower complaint contained "inaccurate and misleading information."

    This ignores that the whistleblower complaint has been backed up by the released summary of the phone call between Trump and Zelensky as well as the public testimony during the impeachment hearings.

    Claim: Trump was genuinely worried about corruption

    Trump’s actions were rooted in his "long-standing, deep-seated skepticism of Ukraine due to its history of pervasive corruption."

    That argument is undercut by multiple pieces of evidence, including testimony by Sondland that Zelensky "had to announce the investigations. He didn’t actually have to do them, as I understood it."

    Claim: The assistance was ultimately released

    "U.S. security assistance ultimately flowed to Ukraine without the Ukrainian government taking any action to investigate President Trump’s political rival."

    This is literally accurate, but the timeline of events shows that the assistance flowed only after the freeze on aid became public and people criticized it.

    Claim: Witnesses didn’t say Trump should be impeached

    "In fact, witnesses called by the Democrats denied having any awareness of criminal activity or an impeachable offense."

    This is misleading. The witnesses who testified in the impeachment inquiry did so as fact witnesses, speaking about what they saw, did, or knew related to inquiry matters. They were not there to make legal conclusions.

    Claim: Mick Mulvaney’s remarks were misunderstood

    "Although Democrats and some in the media believe that Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney confirmed the existence of a quid pro quo during an October 2019 press briefing, a careful reading of his statements shows otherwise. Chief of Staff Mulvaney cited President Trump’s concerns about Ukrainian corruption and foreign aid in general as the ‘driving factors’ in the temporary pause on security assistance."

    Mulvaney did cite Trump concerns of corruption and of European countries not helping out enough as driving factors on why security aid was withheld from Ukraine. But Mulvaney didn’t stop there.


    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...chment-report/

  • #2
    Now "fact check" the Democrats' fairy tale.

    You see only what you want to see.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      If you watched the hearings and listened to the witnesses, there is no way any reasonable person could actually believe it a 'fairy tale.'

      What the Republicans are doing is supporting administration corruption and Trump's continued violations of the Constitution and repeated lying to the American people for his own benefit..

      How can you in good conscience support that?
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
        PolitiFact has fact-checked republican talking points in their report. This isn't news to me, but may be for some here.
        Here's some bullet points and the link below has further information on each topic.





        https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...chment-report/
        Politi"fact" has bias too.



        Claim: There’s no evidence that Trump directed anyone to pressure Ukraine

        "The impeachment inquiry has uncovered no clear evidence that President Trump directed Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Secretary Perry to work with Mayor Giuliani for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate his political rival."

        This claim is directly contradicted by testimony from Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union



        Politfact is misrepresenting the testimony.
        Sondland testified that he PRESUMED the aid was linked, but had not been told that directly

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