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  • Trump in London...

    ...Not a very good time it appears...What goes around, comes around...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    President Trump has always relished throwing European leaders off balance, antagonizing allies, embracing insurgents and setting off a frantic contest for how best to deal with him. Now, as Europe undergoes dizzying political changes of its own, it is throwing Mr. Trump off balance.

    In London for a NATO summit meeting, Mr. Trump was subjected to
    a rare tongue-lashing
    on trade and terrorism by President Emmanuel Macron of France, who dismissed his attempt to lighten the mood with a curt, “Let’s be serious.” Earlier in the day, Mr. Trump held his own tongue about British politics, heeding Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s plea not to barge into Britain’s election at the 11th hour.

    For a president who prides himself on being the Great Disrupter, it was a startling turnabout, one that underscored how Europe’s shifting landscape — with an ambitious president in France, a lame-duck leader in Germany and a breakaway populist in Britain — has scrambled the calculus for Mr. Trump.

    For now, at least, Mr. Macron has replaced Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany as Mr. Trump’s chief antagonist on the Continent. The French president’s recent assertion that NATO was exhausted and strategically adrift — or in a state of “brain death” as he put it in an interview with The Economist last month — angered both Mr. Trump and Ms. Merkel and has created an improbable, if perhaps fleeting, alignment between those two leaders who spent much of the last three years on opposite poles.


    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    Are the European leaders laughing at Trump?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/04/polit...ato/index.html

    World leaders at the NATO summit in London were caught on camera appearing to joke about US President Donald Trump during a reception at Buckingham Palace Tuesday evening.

    The video appears to show British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, French President Emmanuel Macron, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte having a laugh about Trump's behavior during the summit.

    The 25-second clip, which has gone viral and was first reported by CBC, begins with Johnson asking Macron why he was late.

    "Is that why you were late?" Johnson asked.
    Macron nodded, as Trudeau replied, "He was late because he takes a ... 40-minute press conference at the top."
    At no time in the video do the leaders mention Trump by name, but Trudeau's comment appeared to reference Trump's lengthy remarks to the press during their earlier meeting on Tuesday.

    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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    • #3
      Umm. I'm not sure when you last verbally interacted with people who engage in sarcasm. But saying. "Let's be serious" like you're their mother chiding them is generally not considered a winning riposte.
      Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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      • #4
        Perhaps if you understood that English is not Macron's mother tongue might help you figure out that Trump isn't doing too well in Europe with fellow NATO heads of state.
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #5
          Flag: USA / Location: West Coast

          Prayers.

          BoRG

          http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8757/snap1ws8.jpg

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PtsX_Z3CMU

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          • #6
            Are the French even really part of NATO? They refused to integrate their armed forces into NATO. They held a separate national policy on defense. Their cooperation in NATO operations has been minimal.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Are the French even really part of NATO? They refused to integrate their armed forces into NATO. They held a separate national policy on defense. Their cooperation in NATO operations has been minimal.
              France withdrew in 1962 to pursue an independent nuclear force, which was IMO, the best decision ever made regarding that Alliance. Full participation beginning in 2009 under Sarkozy...which IMO, is a damned shame given America's shameful treatment of that partnership.
              You'll live, only the best get killed.

              -General Charles de Gaulle

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                Pretty stupid,

                How long has Merkel been in power.
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                  Pretty stupid,

                  How long has Merkel been in power.
                  Since 1933.

                  Image result for angela merkel memes

                  Flag: USA / Location: West Coast

                  Prayers.

                  BoRG

                  http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8757/snap1ws8.jpg

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PtsX_Z3CMU

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                  • #10

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                      Get some facts.

                      There is virtually no other population group that has shaped the past of the USA quite as strongly as German emigrants, with almost seven million of them making their way to the New World over the course of four centuries. Currently 40 to 60 million Americans cite “German” as their primary origin and thus represent the largest immigrant group – even greater than those descended from Irish and Italians.

                      https://www.deutschland.de/en/usa/us...s-german-roots

                      Fill you brain with that
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Salinator View Post

                        Since 1933.

                        Image result for angela merkel memes

                        Congrats on your most stupid post
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                          Get some facts.

                          There is virtually no other population group that has shaped the past of the USA quite as strongly as German emigrants, with almost seven million of them making their way to the New World over the course of four centuries. Currently 40 to 60 million Americans cite “German” as their primary origin and thus represent the largest immigrant group – even greater than those descended from Irish and Italians.

                          https://www.deutschland.de/en/usa/us...s-german-roots

                          Fill you brain with that
                          Outnumbering Brittania’s children ?
                          "I dogmatise and am contradicted, and in this conflict of opinions and sentiments I find delight".
                          Samuel Johnson.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                            Congrats on your most stupid post
                            It is not only stupid, it's ignorant which in this case is far worse. Both, however, are terminal.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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