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    Seems public support for impeachment is slipping rather than gaining traction as the public hearings go on...

    A new poll shows support for the impeachment of President Trump has declined since public hearings have started.

    The Emerson poll released Thursday found support for impeachment has dropped from 48% to 43% since October, while opposition to impeachment has risen from 44% to 45%.

    Independents are key in the shift, with 49% opposing impeachment and only 34% supporting impeachment. In October, 48% of independents supported impeachment and 39% opposed.

    The poll also showed Trump's approval rating rising to a net positive. Forty-eight percent approved of the president while 47% disapproved. His approval rating was only 43% a month ago.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    Now, one poll doesn't make it chiseled in stone by any means, but public support for impeachment outside the Democrat party was never strong to begin with. This doesn't bode well for the Democrats. I personally think they should be focused on running a candidate that can beat Trump at the polls but the group they have right now isn't likely to do that.

  • #2
    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This doesn't bode well for the Democrats. I personally think they should be focused on running a candidate that can beat Trump at the polls but the group they have right now isn't likely to do that.



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    • #3
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      Seems public support for impeachment is slipping rather than gaining traction as the public hearings go on...



      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

      Now, one poll doesn't make it chiseled in stone by any means, but public support for impeachment outside the Democrat party was never strong to begin with. This doesn't bode well for the Democrats. I personally think they should be focused on running a candidate that can beat Trump at the polls but the group they have right now isn't likely to do that.
      And good news for America.
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
        Seems public support for impeachment is slipping rather than gaining traction as the public hearings go on...



        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

        Now, one poll doesn't make it chiseled in stone by any means, but public support for impeachment outside the Democrat party was never strong to begin with. This doesn't bode well for the Democrats. I personally think they should be focused on running a candidate that can beat Trump at the polls but the group they have right now isn't likely to do that.
        would be interesting to inside numbers and the next poll. ie why independent fell or is it the trump factor and his influence on polls

        btw impeachment in reality should never be poll driven. It one of the few times you should be doing what you think is right.

        and yes I know it is but that the problem.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Trung Si View Post


          I've started calling them "The Three Stooges and Seven Dwarfs." That is, the three "front runners," the washed up Socialist with one foot in the grave, the fake Indian Princess who's as authentic as pleather, and the creepy, crazy, perverted uncle are the frontrunners while nobody can name all of the Seven Dwarfs that are also in the mix...

          Even more hilarious is that while the Democrats are doing the impeachment thing, nobody's paying much attention to any of these candidates so their own party in a way is ruining their chances for publicity while keeping Trump front and center on stage.

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          • #6
            No good deed goes unpunished...
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              They've been beating this drum for too long. If it wasn't for the Mueller investigation, the stripper, etc. then democrats would probably be ok. But, at this point, it's just too much. One, it's all tiring. Hearing about impeachment for 4 years is exhausting. Two, Trump being a bad President isn't a good enough reason to remove him from office. So a lot of people realize democrats are creating one hell of a slippery slope.
              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
              - Benjamin Franklin

              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                They've been beating this drum for too long. If it wasn't for the Mueller investigation, the stripper, etc. then democrats would probably be ok. But, at this point, it's just too much. One, it's all tiring. Hearing about impeachment for 4 years is exhausting. Two, Trump being a bad President isn't a good enough reason to remove him from office. So a lot of people realize democrats are creating one hell of a slippery slope.
                I don't think on the whole he's a bad President. He's a pretty awful person, seeing how he's an Internet troll, and bloviating braggard, but that doesn't make him a bad President.

                A bad President is one that doesn't do what's in the best interests of the US in terms of foreign policy and the domestic economy, like Obama or Carter did. That made them bad Presidents.

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                • #9
                  Well I look at things like the deficit, attack on 2nd Amendment rights, various socialist policy, constant flip flopping, lack of a clear strategy on foreign policy, lack of a backbone to deliver on certain promises, stoking fears, things like that is what makes Trump a bad president. But, it's all subjective.
                  "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                  - Benjamin Franklin

                  The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                  • #10
                    That is a pretty small shift in some notoriously unreliable polls, but if this is what it takes to end the Impeachment circus .... yay?
                    If this is all it takes to stop it, then there was not much to it in the first place. Thanks for nothing.


                    Now, if we could only get Tulsi Gabbard back on the ticket.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                      Well I look at things like the deficit, attack on 2nd Amendment rights, various socialist policy, constant flip flopping, lack of a clear strategy on foreign policy, lack of a backbone to deliver on certain promises, stoking fears, things like that is what makes Trump a bad president. But, it's all subjective.
                      The deficit is hardly Trump's doing. It's an ongoing problem and likely one no President can fix. Where has Trump seriously attacked the 2nd Amendment? Trump certainly hasn't coddled terrorist states like Iran, sided with states not particularly friendly to the US over long time allies (like siding with Argentina at the OAS over the Falkland Islands), and you can't fault him in particular for things like Congress / Democrats refusing to even consider a compromise with him on something like the wall on the Southern border which he is building to the extent that he can divert funding to that.

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                      • #12
                        Today's CNN poll has support for impeachment and removal at 50%
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #13
                          The Daily Caller has released a memo being circulated by Attorney General William Barr to coerce weak-kneed Republican Senators into passing gun control.
                          https://gunowners.org/alert09192019/

                          Trump says he supports "red flag laws"

                          Donald Trump addressed the nation on Monday in the wake of two deadly mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio over the weekend. He blamed violent video games and mental health for the shooting and called for "red flag laws" as a measure of gun control.
                          https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-...f-gun-control/

                          Trump says take guns first and worry about 'due process second' in White House gun meeting
                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/381145002/

                          That alone, given the importance of our 2nd Amendment rights, disqualifies Trump from being a good president.

                          I'm not interested in excuses. Especially considering Trump started his presidency with control of both the house and senate. So I don't want to hear excuses. He has made the deficit worse, enacted numerous liberal policies and is in the process of violating the 2nd amendment. That is the mark of a bad president. If you like him, that's your opinion. But, there's nothing you can say to convince me that the things I mentioned are positives and not negatives.




                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                          - Benjamin Franklin

                          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            Today's CNN poll has support for impeachment and removal at 50%
                            So, it's not very popular even by a source that's in the Democrat's corner and so biased it hurts.

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