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  • #16
    It has been understood from the days of Athens that democracy is mob rule. That is why we have a republic and enumerated constitutional rights. Now that we have universal suffrage the question becomes which party represents the mob and which the guardian. I would say it's the party that wants to do away with the electoral college that represents the mob. It is also understood that all hierarchies are corrupt that is why we have separation of powers. Their is also a process for overturning elections in the legislature for just about anything the legislature determines is a "misdemeanor". What we are witnessing however violates other principles namely innocent until proven guilty, due process and equal justice. In a world of safe spaces what is lacking is courage which leads us to no longer live by the idea of it being better to let nine guilty go free than convict one innocent.

    The real danger is not tyranny but leading from behind which enboldens our enemies. The restoration of deterrents is always dangerous. What is more dangerous is appeasement.

    It really comes down to the yin and yang being out of balance. The demand for too much security leads to chaos. Luxus leads to pettiness and spite. Passivity leads to decay. A preference for form leads to dysfunction.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

      Yes we knew what you were up to. Why don't you go ahead and hope that North Korea starts firing missiles over Japan, that China continues to threaten it's neighbors and disrupt the global economy, that Russia take the rest of the Ukrainian, that Western Europe continues to allow their defences to deteriorate, that the stock market collapse, that we have a recession, that minority employment returns to the norm, that our cities be torn apart by racial tensions, what exactly is it you wouldn't accept to satisfy your hatred.
      Well- at the risk of stating the obvious:
      In 1930's Kansas, - there was no North Korea, Only professor Goodard and maybe a young
      Werner von Braun knew that Ballistic MISSLES WOULD WORK, ETC. ETC....

      consider the possibility that you are getting - off track....

      "\they may have taken your jewels, Billi ,but you still have my undying love- and teats......
      Last edited by marktwain; 19 Nov 19, 22:56.
      The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
        ...we knew what you were up to...
        I didn't; still don't.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by III Corps View Post

          I didn't; still don't.
          Fair enough- I have trouble figuring myself out..

          the Kansas elections in 1930 and 1932 are pretty unique 'outliers'. Kansas has had only four Democratic governments since statehood. \
          This pretty conservative state , twice, voted heavily for one of the strangest characters to ever walk the political stage anywhere. John Romulus Brinkley . "The doctor' actually won the 1930 state election......as an independent.

          Topic in a nutshell: . apologies to all who were puzzled.
          |and it's not a veiled attack on Donald Trump.]

          and it's not my goat gland transplants acting up
          Last edited by marktwain; 19 Nov 19, 22:59.
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          • #20
            It might be worth remembering that the AMA agreed with importing thousands of poorly trained foreign medical graduates who can't pass the mandatory qualification boards, yet you will find them everywhere including our little town, covering places like emergency rooms as physicians.

            The AMA is a political organization mostly focused on lobbying on behalf of physicians and looking out for their own. They do not police their own membership unless literally forced into it. Kind of like Congress.
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

              Yes we knew what you were up to. Why don't you go ahead and hope that North Korea starts firing missiles over Japan, that China continues to threaten it's neighbors and disrupt the global economy, that Russia take the rest of the Ukrainian, that Western Europe continues to allow their defences to deteriorate, that the stock market collapse, that we have a recession, that minority employment returns to the norm, that our cities be torn apart by racial tensions, what exactly is it you wouldn't accept to satisfy your hatred.
              \the only related fact is - the stock market AND THE WHEAT EXPORT PRICE COLLAPSE, of 1930. |the state had a 'core vote' of Republicans that was slightly larger than its core vote of Democrats- and a 'Republican swing vote' that voted for a messiah candidate rather than vote democratic. as a protest...
              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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              • #22
                Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                \the only related fact is - the stock market AND THE WHEAT EXPORT PRICE COLLAPSE, of 1930. |the state had a 'core vote' of Republicans that was slightly larger than its core vote of Democrats- and a 'Republican swing vote' that voted for a messiah candidate rather than vote democratic. as a protest...
                That's probably is less relevant than the fact that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery and segregation. Remember Abe Lincoln was a divisive, backwoods, populace. You can't always get what you want but if you try real hard you can get what you need.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

                  That's probably is less relevant than the fact that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery and segregation. Remember Abe Lincoln was a divisive, backwoods, populace. You can't always get what you want but if you try real hard you can get what you need.
                  By 1930, segregation, everywhere but in the solid south, had been replaced by holding bimetal federal reserves and coining silver as the salient recent issue in the democratic government state platforms. The continuing rifts between the two major parties prevented easy voter transfer.

                  The Republican establishment missed the warning signals . The prosperity is just around the corner and high tariff walls policy cost them dearly in 1932.
                  The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                    By 1930, segregation, everywhere but in the solid south, had been replaced by holding bimetal federal reserves and coining silver as the salient recent issue in the democratic government state platforms. The continuing rifts between the two major parties prevented easy voter transfer.

                    The Republican establishment missed the warning signals . The prosperity is just around the corner and high tariff walls policy cost them dearly in 1932.
                    Brown vs the Topeka Board of Education
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                      By 1930, segregation, everywhere but in the solid south, had been replaced by holding bimetal federal reserves and coining silver as the salient recent issue in the democratic government state platforms. The continuing rifts between the two major parties prevented easy voter transfer.

                      The Republican establishment missed the warning signals . The prosperity is just around the corner and high tariff walls policy cost them dearly in 1932.
                      Sidestepping the facts is a poor substitute for historical accuracy and the truth.

                      Nice try at changing the subject to protect the Democratic party, but you failed.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                        Sidestepping the facts is a poor substitute for historical accuracy and the truth.

                        Nice try at changing the subject to protect the Democratic party, but you failed.
                        I've never voted Democrat in my life...

                        The facts are, in 1930 the Wheat states felt the coming depression first in America. the Republican vote swung away to Roosevelt's new party - or loose bag of various cats.
                        Roosevelt's Congress was dominated by Bankhead's nascent
                        Dixiecrats. Lip service was paid to the south's demand for the protection of State Segregation.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_U...ates_elections
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                          I've never voted Democrat in my life...

                          The facts are, in 1930 the Wheat states felt the coming depression first in America. the Republican vote swung away to Roosevelt's new party - or loose bag of various cats.
                          Roosevelt's Congress was dominated by Bankhead's nascent
                          Dixiecrats. Lip service was paid to the south's demand for the protection of State Segregation.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_U...ates_elections
                          And yet you defend them and attack everyone and everything else. I'm afraid you have zero credibility.
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                            And yet you defend them and attack everyone and everything else. I'm afraid you have zero credibility.
                            You are grasping at straws... Before I stated the thread, I suspect you had no idea who John Romulus Brinkley was...
                            The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

                              Yes we knew what you were up to. Why don't you go ahead and hope that North Korea starts firing missiles over Japan, that China continues to threaten it's neighbors and disrupt the global economy, that Russia take the rest of the Ukrainian, that Western Europe continues to allow their defences to deteriorate, that the stock market collapse, that we have a recession, that minority employment returns to the norm, that our cities be torn apart by racial tensions, what exactly is it you wouldn't accept to satisfy your hatred.
                              Completely off the mark, Wolfhound .
                              My point is that the massive loss of votes from the Republican party in Kansas, a matter of record, did not shift to the

                              Kansas Democrats.

                              Kansas was hit harder and sooner by the Depression than almost any other agrarian state, IIRC. The collapse of soft winter wheat prices in 1930 was immediate, due to the Argentine policy of selling at any immediate price ( which proved wise, as the Argentines sold their bumper crop before prices declined even further). The massive collapse of hard spring wheat came a year later, when the Soviet Union starved it's Kulaks by seizing and selling.

                              Are you SURE that you aren't a 'secret Democrat?"
                              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                                Completely off the mark, Wolfhound .
                                My point is that the massive loss of votes from the Republican party in Kansas, a matter of record, did not shift to the

                                Kansas Democrats.

                                Kansas was hit harder and sooner by the Depression than almost any other agrarian state, IIRC. The collapse of soft winter wheat prices in 1930 was immediate, due to the Argentine policy of selling at any immediate price ( which proved wise, as the Argentines sold their bumper crop before prices declined even further). The massive collapse of hard spring wheat came a year later, when the Soviet Union starved it's Kulaks by seizing and selling.

                                Are you SURE that you aren't a 'secret Democrat?"
                                It's hard winter wheat, spring wheat is soft. I have never known anyone to grow spring wheat in Kansas but my father did say it was grown at times.

                                I can't answer your question. When I lived in Kansas I didn't pay any attention to politics and it was not discussed at home.

                                Until recently I voted for Democrats fairly often. I'm not sure why but it could be I have never been interested in money or material possessions.
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