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    Where is the discussion of the nine murdered Americans in Mexico? I'm surprised that no one here, or throughout America for that matter, can find any reason to mention it, or comment on the obvious lack of any serious attempt to apprehend the perpetrators. The Lame Stream Media gave it a single pass and then mention of it disappeared. Apparently cocaine money will buy silence from anyone these days.

    What happens if nine innocent Mexicans, including women and young children, are slaughtered here in America? Is that going to slide by without comment in our society and in Mexico, too? Are we that far gone? We get more upset when some two-bit has-been athlete decides not to honor the National Anthem.

    What ind of animals shoot up little kids? Because these are the same kind of animals that our National Socialist Democratic Party freely allows into America by refusing to secure the border.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/know-mormo...opstories.html

    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

  • #2
    A couple of notes: The attackers had at least one belt fed machinegun. There was a photo in the local paper of someone at the site showing spent rounds and the disintegrating metal belt clips one of the shooters was using. So much for gun control, which in Mexico is very strict. The .223 rounds found used lacquered steel cases so those are most likely from a non-US source.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-9/2558911001/

    They were fired on, by various accounts, from a hundred yards or more. It's likely the shooters didn't know who was in the vehicles and probably couldn't see them. A 7.62mm or .223 machinegun at that range is going to make swiss cheese of a vehicle in short order and they had one or the other present.

    There have been multiple articles in the local paper on this event:

    https://www.azcentral.com/search/nin...ered%20mexico/

    There's 48 links to that at azcentral.com

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    • #3
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      A couple of notes: The attackers had at least one belt fed machinegun. There was a photo in the local paper of someone at the site showing spent rounds and the disintegrating metal belt clips one of the shooters was using. So much for gun control, which in Mexico is very strict. The .223 rounds found used lacquered steel cases so those are most likely from a non-US source.

      https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...-9/2558911001/

      They were fired on, by various accounts, from a hundred yards or more. It's likely the shooters didn't know who was in the vehicles and probably couldn't see them. A 7.62mm or .223 machinegun at that range is going to make swiss cheese of a vehicle in short order and they had one or the other present.

      There have been multiple articles in the local paper on this event:

      https://www.azcentral.com/search/nin...ered%20mexico/

      There's 48 links to that at azcentral.com
      No one sets up a murderous ambush like that without knowing the target and having to report total failure and international attention to their cartel boss.

      As for attention, it vanished out here within 24 hours and now we hear nothing except for reports of the funerals. I expect nothing from Mexico, of course, being totally in the pockets of the cartels, but our own government? When border safety is a major issue? I expected that the Republicans and Trump would be all over this.

      And where was the official announcement by the State Department that travel to a terrorist nation is now banned? That's standard procedure in these cases everywhere else in the world, and it would have allowed he border to be closed.
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

        No one sets up a murderous ambush like that without knowing the target and having to report total failure and international attention to their cartel boss.

        As for attention, it vanished out here within 24 hours and now we hear nothing except for reports of the funerals. I expect nothing from Mexico, of course, being totally in the pockets of the cartels, but our own government? When border safety is a major issue? I expected that the Republicans and Trump would be all over this.

        And where was the official announcement by the State Department that travel to a terrorist nation is now banned? That's standard procedure in these cases everywhere else in the world, and it would have allowed he border to be closed.
        Local news in Chicago has also dropped the story.
        Natalie Halloway, was in the news for years after her murder. 9 mormons murdered by a crug cartel is oddly a nonstory.
        You would think that the murder of innocent women and infants would attract some greater attention, but I guess we can't let people know that the semi failed narco state on our border has a crime problem.
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        • #5
          I saw on the News yesterday that arrests were made in that case.
          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1XL27N
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
            I saw on the News yesterday that arrests were made in that case.
            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1XL27N
            Some major issues already apparent:

            1. Sonora claims not to know anything about it, although the government says that they do.

            2. Sonora is under the control of the Sinaloa cartel, probably the largest cartel in Mexico. (see map)

            3. The Federal Bureau of Ineptitude and Incompetence is now involved. These are the same inept people unable to prosecute Clinton. They will find themselves unable to do anything with the cartels, either.

            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

              Local news in Chicago has also dropped the story.
              Natalie Halloway, was in the news for years after her murder. 9 mormons murdered by a crug cartel is oddly a nonstory.
              You would think that the murder of innocent women and infants would attract some greater attention, but I guess we can't let people know that the semi failed narco state on our border has a crime problem.
              Not if the Democrats want to keep that border wide open...and they do.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #8
                Good to see the Archy Bunkerisms kick in in the opening post.

                National Socialist Democratic Party
                Geezzzzz. Please explain in what way they are responsible for the killing of Americans who chose to emigrate to Mexico, a country with a homicide rate of 19 per 100.000.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rutger View Post
                  Good to see the Archy Bunkerisms kick in in the opening post.


                  Geezzzzz. Please explain in what way they are responsible for the killing of Americans who chose to emigrate to Mexico, a country with a homicide rate of 19 per 100.000.
                  Long story. I recommend you do a search of all forum posts on this subject, read them thoroughly, and then present any specific questions you may have.

                  However, you lack of understanding the link between Mexican cartels, mass murder and open borders - these same killers pass freely into America - makes it unlikely you will understand even if you do read up.
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    Where is the discussion of the nine murdered Americans in Mexico? I'm surprised that no one here, or throughout America for that matter, can find any reason to mention it, or comment on the obvious lack of any serious attempt to apprehend the perpetrators. The Lame Stream Media gave it a single pass and then mention of it disappeared. Apparently cocaine money will buy silence from anyone these days.

                    What happens if nine innocent Mexicans, including women and young children, are slaughtered here in America? Is that going to slide by without comment in our society and in Mexico, too? Are we that far gone? We get more upset when some two-bit has-been athlete decides not to honor the National Anthem.

                    What ind of animals shoot up little kids? Because these are the same kind of animals that our National Socialist Democratic Party freely allows into America by refusing to secure the border.

                    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/know-mormo...opstories.html
                    The same type of mindsets that orchestrated the attacks in Mexico also want Americans like you and I to be against all democrats. Here in my area a young boy was killed in a drug shootout gone wrong...it got local coverage nothing national and then faded away...the culprits have yet to be found. That young boy was a student at a Islamic school I worked at for two years. I remember him and its to bad he is dead now at such a young age.

                    https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/14/a...l-mother-says/

                    This is a wake up call for a push for a grand move. Either war on the cartels which would cost money and lives or legalize all drugs in the USA putting a serious economic dent in the cartels. Whether in Mexico or the USA drug gangs thrive off of the illegal drug trade. There are massive profits to be made for American and Mexican drug dealers because of the illegal market. And violence would be associated with alcohol, even violence would be associated with the sale of chicken if chicken was illegal in the USA. Such sought after commodities such as illegal drugs should be legalized to overnight put a massive dent on the actives of illegal drug gangs.

                    As for Democrats they have been the strongest Americans as they led us in the greatest challenge of history which IMO was WW2.
                    Last edited by Stonewall_Jack; 12 Nov 19, 16:36.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post

                      The same type of mindsets that orchestrated the attacks in Mexico also want Americans like you and I to be against all democrats. Here in my area a young boy was killed in a drug shootout gone wrong...it got local coverage nothing national and then faded away...the culprits have yet to be found. That young boy was a student at a Islamic school I worked at for two years. I remember him and its to bad he is dead now at such a young age.

                      https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/14/a...l-mother-says/

                      This is a wake up call for a push for a grand move. Either war on the cartels which would cost money and lives or legalize all drugs in the USA putting a serious economic dent in the cartels. Whether in Mexico or the USA drug gangs thrive off of the illegal drug trade. There are massive profits to be made for American and Mexican drug dealers because of the illegal market. And violence would be associated with alcohol, even violence would be associated with the sale of chicken if chicken was illegal in the USA. Such sought after commodities such as illegal drugs should be legalized to overnight put a massive dent on the actives of illegal drug gangs.

                      As for Democrats they have been the strongest Americans as they led us in the greatest challenge of history which IMO was WW2.
                      I'd be careful with that claim. Democrats got us into the war despite the wishes of the American public....twice in row.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                        I'd be careful with that claim. Democrats got us into the war despite the wishes of the American public....twice in row.
                        But Hitler had to be defeated and it was Democratic leadership of the USA that saved the world. And btw I also praise the GOP senators and Congressmen that supported FDR. Im saying the USA was once a much better place then it is now.

                        My main point is even I have been effected by gangland slayings. A young boy who was a student at a Islamic school I worked at was slain in some sort of apparent gangland shooting. Black and White Americans whether biker gangs or the bloods or crypts for example represent a serious threat to innocent people and they must be stopped someway or another.

                        What if it was one of our relatives that got killed in a shootout gone wrong? Right here in the USA violent criminals are thriving because of a illegal drug system.
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                        • #13
                          Well, it didn't take long for this topic to get sidetracked ! What the hell does Nazi's, Hitler, FDR and Democrats have to do with the murder of nine Americans in Mexico in 2019?
                          Islam? Really?
                          A local drug lord had an axe to grind with the FLDS colony and he took it out on innocent women and children. The press isn't going to pursue an investigation on Mexico because the reporters will be killed either by the drug cartels or the authorities. And nobody is going to talk for the same reason.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                            Well, it didn't take long for this topic to get sidetracked ! What the hell does Nazi's, Hitler, FDR and Democrats have to do with the murder of nine Americans in Mexico in 2019?
                            Islam? Really?
                            A local drug lord had an axe to grind with the FLDS colony and he took it out on innocent women and children. The press isn't going to pursue an investigation on Mexico because the reporters will be killed either by the drug cartels or the authorities. And nobody is going to talk for the same reason.
                            Re read the post. The point is that even in the USA Americans are being gunned down by drug dealers. Mountain brought up Americans killed in a shootout and I did the same thing. Mountain man brought up democrats, I responded..nothing wrong here.

                            And your last point goes to show that something needs to be done about the illegal drug trade, either declare war on the cartels of legalize all drugs in the USA and Mexico and put an economic dent into the cartels.
                            Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                            Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                            George S Patton

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                              Well, it didn't take long for this topic to get sidetracked ! What the hell does Nazi's, Hitler, FDR and Democrats have to do with the murder of nine Americans in Mexico in 2019?
                              Islam? Really?
                              A local drug lord had an axe to grind with the FLDS colony and he took it out on innocent women and children. The press isn't going to pursue an investigation on Mexico because the reporters will be killed either by the drug cartels or the authorities. And nobody is going to talk for the same reason.
                              I think that you're spot-on with this take of these tragic but avoidable circumstances. Those Mormons were most likely tolerated as long as they didn't upset the apple cart(el). It was reported that some of the FLDS commune members were intent on reporting drug and gang activity to the authorities (Federales and US DEA) by providing locations and movement routes.
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