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  • #46
    Originally posted by Jutland View Post
    Grant died poor, his memoirs published after his death were highly successful and provided for his wife.
    So Donald Trump knows what to do now, drop dead quickly, I'm sure Melania won't love him any less for it.

    Did you know btw. that sex in the 1860s was sometimes called my "personal Gettysburg", not often, and certainly not by Grant, but sometimes
    Last edited by Snowygerry; 12 Nov 19, 08:24.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Salinator View Post
      So if you do not agree with what Trump said, it is a lie. If you agree with what he says, it is gospel. Sounds like hypocrisy when one does exactly what he says the other side is guilty of. I have no side. You seem to think that this is a zero sum world where if you do not hate Trump and bash him endlessly REGARDLESS of how pitiful the accusations are, then that person must be a Trump-supporter.

      And as for the draft board, one is not excused because of a doctor's note. It is pitiful that TDS MSM and all the accrued Trump hatred would make anything think that avoiding a draft is as simple as calling in sick at one's job on Monday morning backed up by a doctor's note.

      From Snopes:

      Trump received his fourth and final college deferment on 16 January 1968. After graduating from Wharton, he was reclassified 1-A on 9 July 1968.
      Trump underwent an Armed Forces physical examination(with a result listed only as “DISQ”) on 19 September 1968 and was reclassified 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency) on 15 October 1968.

      Again, he was qualified to serve. Your issue is with Nixon and Congress that did not declare war. And hiding behind a security blanket and strawman that you built will not work. His birthdate drew a 356 was a result of chance - not amount of hair pulling can have made true any dream that Trump would have served - without volunteering, which he would have been turned down down by the military, as the last number drawn before the NON-war ended was 195 IIRC.

      Your real beef is Trump did not volunteer. Neither did Clinton. It is said that 90% percent of National Guard enlistments were due to people wanting to avoid Vietnam. People continued on college to earned deferments. Somewhere I read that that half(?) of West Point cadets resigned after the Vietnam war ended, But off course...........only Trump is bad.

      Oh, and where did I insult YOU, unless you are confessing to suffer from TDS and are currently working for the MSM?
      All these attacks on Trump are only hypocrisy :
      if he was drafted,they would attack him for not fighting in Vietnam.
      If he was in Vietnam,they would say that he got no medals.
      If he got a medal, they would attack him for not being a RINO.
      If he was a RINO,they would attack him for not being a Democrat .
      If he was a Democrat,they would attack him for being white .
      If he was black,thet would say he was an Uncle Tom.


      • #48
        Originally posted by Jutland View Post

        So Clinton faced the draft as a 1-A and Trump faced it as a 1-Y, check.
        Whatever you say as you appear determined to be willfully obtuse and love to have the last word. So Paddy.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Salinator View Post

          Whatever you say as you appear determined to be willfully obtuse and love to have the last word. So Paddy.
          No it's just a fact.


          • #50
            what about bush Controversy over George W. Bush's military service in the Air National Guard was an issue that first gained widespread public attention during the 2004 presidential campaign. The controversy centered on Texas Air National Guard, why he lost his flight status, and whether he fulfilled the requirements of his military service contract.


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