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  • Federal Judge Slams Trump

    And it's about time...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp
    In an unusually critical speech that lamented the public’s flagging confidence in the independence of the judicial branch, a federal judge slammed President Trump for “feeding right into this destructive narrative” with repeated attacks and personal insults toward judges he dislikes.
    U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman of the District of Columbia said Trump’s rhetoric “violates all recognized democratic norms” during a speech at the annual Judge Thomas A. Flannery Lecture in Washington on Wednesday.
    “We are in unchartered territory,” said Friedman, 75, an appointee of President Bill Clinton. “We are witnessing a chief executive who criticizes virtually every judicial decision that doesn’t go his way and denigrates judges who rule against him, sometimes in very personal terms. He seems to view the courts and the justice system as obstacles to be attacked and undermined, not as a co-equal branch to be respected even when he disagrees with its decisions.”




    In an unusually critical speech that lamented the public’s flagging confidence in the independence of the judicial branch, a federal judge slammed President Trump for “feeding right into this destructive narrative” with repeated attacks and personal insults toward judges he dislikes.


    U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman of the District of Columbia said Trump’s rhetoric “violates all recognized democratic norms” during a speech at the annual Judge Thomas A. Flannery Lecture in Washington on Wednesday.

    “We are in unchartered territory,” said Friedman, 75, an appointee of President Bill Clinton. “We are witnessing a chief executive who criticizes virtually every judicial decision that doesn’t go his way and denigrates judges who rule against him, sometimes in very personal terms. He seems to view the courts and the justice system as obstacles to be attacked and undermined, not as a co-equal branch to be respected even when he disagrees with its decisions.”
    The White House did not immediately return a request for comment early Friday on Friedman’s speech.
    Other judges have raised similar concerns about Trump’s rhetoric and the increasingly partisan interpretation of judicial rulings, but as a senior judge and secretary of the American Law Institute, Friedman’s criticism carries weight.
    Trump has bitterly denounced judges who have halted some of his administration’s most hotly debated policies, from his threats to withhold federal funds from sanctuary cities to his attempt to end Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), which protects many young undocumented immigrants from deportation. He has also attacked judges over rulings that negatively affect him personally.
    In 2017, Trump tweeted how a judge’s decision not to imprison Bowe Bergdahl, an Army sergeant who was captured by the Taliban in 2009 after walking away from his battalion in Afghanistan, was a “total disgrace to our Country and to our Military.” On the campaign trail, then-candidate Trump had suggested Bergdahl was a “dirty rotten traitor” who should be sentenced to death.
    Trump also attacked U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, when the federal jurist from the Southern District of California was assigned to preside over a fraud case involving Trump University, a real estate seminar program. Trump suggested Curiel, an appointee of President Barack Obama, could not remain impartial in the case because of his Mexican heritage, despite the fact that the federal judge was born in Indiana and the case had nothing to do with immigration or foreign affairs. Trump ultimately settled the suit, which alleged the seminars used false advertising to ensnare attendees, for $25 million.

    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    Another day, this time a Clinton appointed judge...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      Another day, this time a Clinton appointed judge...
      Trump is just not very progressive
      We hunt the hunters

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      • #4
        Trump is just not very honest or forthcoming, besides being a fraud and an incompetent.
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
          Another day, this time a Clinton appointed judge...
          What past president has attacked the judicial branch in the manner Trump has? Would it be better if he had complete control and we removed our system of checks and balanced?
          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
          - Benjamin Franklin

          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

            What past president has attacked the judicial branch in the manner Trump has? Would it be better if he had complete control and we removed our system of checks and balanced?
            What past judges were playing presidential politics?

            Doesn't justify Trump's action but ot also doesn't justify the judicial branch of the government commenting on presidential politics. They need to stay in their lane.
            "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

              What past president has attacked the judicial branch in the manner Trump has? Would it be better if he had complete control and we removed our system of checks and balanced?
              FDR comes to mind. He was absolutely livid when the Supreme Court declared about 95% of the New Deal unconstitutional. He wanted to amend the constitution to put 13 Justices on the court so he could pack it. Congress said "NO!" FDR railed against the courts turning down bill after bill that handed power to the federal government over the economy.

              In the end, FDR packed the court the old-fashioned way: By outlasting the Justices in office and nominating yes men that would go along with his programs.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                FDR comes to mind. He was absolutely livid when the Supreme Court declared about 95% of the New Deal unconstitutional. He wanted to amend the constitution to put 13 Justices on the court so he could pack it. Congress said "NO!" FDR railed against the courts turning down bill after bill that handed power to the federal government over the economy.

                In the end, FDR packed the court the old-fashioned way: By outlasting the Justices in office and nominating yes men that would go along with his programs.
                The chronology of your claim does not make sense. It seems more probable that in the end the existing SCOTUS judges passed the New Deal programs after FDR made some changes.
                My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pamak View Post

                  The chronology of your claim does not make sense. It seems more probable that in the end the existing SCOTUS judges passed the New Deal programs after FDR made some changes.
                  Maybe you should read up on it some.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_H...(Supreme_Court)

                  This list shows how the court increasingly sided with FDR as he got to nominate new justices.

                  https://pages.wustl.edu/calvert/supr...rams-1934-1942

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                    Maybe you should read up on it some.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_H...(Supreme_Court)

                    This list shows how the court increasingly sided with FDR as he got to nominate new justices.

                    https://pages.wustl.edu/calvert/supr...rams-1934-1942

                    As your link clearly shows, the initial SCOTUS did not hold 95% of the New Deal unconstitutional.

                    First SCOTUS judge nominated by FDR was in August 1937

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_D._Roosevelt

                    Now go back to your sources and count the number of decisions that went for and against FDR up until 8/ 1937

                    The majority was actually for New Deal programs

                    My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                      What past judges were playing presidential politics?

                      Doesn't justify Trump's action but ot also doesn't justify the judicial branch of the government commenting on presidential politics. They need to stay in their lane.
                      Too bad you don't say the same thing about Trump.
                      We are not now that strength which in old days
                      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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