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  • First Two Transcripts Are Released

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...019/index.html

    The transcript of Marie Yovanovitch’s testimony makes clear Republican efforts to question the impeachment effort’s procedures, even as GOP members were given equal time to question the former US ambassador to Ukraine.

    Before the questioning even began, Republicans criticized the rules surrounding the inquiry and suggested it should be led by another committee. Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, said the President and Republicans should be able to see all the evidence and present their own evidence “bearing on the credibility” of witnesses. The Ohio Republican also said President Trump should be able to respond to the testimony.

    The Republicans went back-and-forth with House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff over the rules before the questioning began.

    Later, the Republicans interjected when it became known that Yovanovitch’s opening statement had been obtained by the media, which they repeatedly attempted to question her about. Her lawyer sought to block those questions, though she eventually responded to an inquiry on whether she thought her opening statement should be provided to the press.


    In her deposition, former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch said she was warned by a senior Ukrainian official that she needed to watch her back as Trump associates worked to undermine her and have her removed.

    Asked about her conversations with Ukrainian officials about Rudy Giuliani, Yovanovitch said she recalled a February 2019 conversation with one official who was “very concerned” about Giuliani’s efforts along with his associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    Did you read the transcripts or are you going by what CNN says?
    "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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    • #3
      Yovanovitch was ironically sent to the Ukraine by Obama to cover up the real Russian collusion and foreign interference in our election in 2016. When it was clear that it was going to become public knowledge that let another example of Clinton's incompetent lawlessness was about to become public knowledge the Obama team acted quickly. She wasn't there to investigate corruption but to be part of it.
      We hunt the hunters

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      • #4
        You can read them here:

        https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/04/polit...ion/index.html

        From Marie Yovanovich:

        https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/04/polit...ine/index.html

        From Michael McKinley:

        https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/04/polit...ine/index.html

        All you had to do was look them up.
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #5
          Speaking of transcripts...this was at Trump's rally tonight in Kentucky.
          Check out the shirts!






          Last edited by Persephone; 04 Nov 19, 23:53.
          "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

          "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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          • #6
            Kevin, didn't you learn your lesson with the Mueller report?
            Now you want to go thru it again with the Ukraine transcript.

            I guess it's true, you can't fix ______!
            "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

            "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Massena View Post
              You can read them here:
              Almost 4 hours later you admit that you started another thread without reading what was said......

              Typical.

              What was your intent by starting another anti Trump thread without reading the facts?
              "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                Almost 4 hours later you admit that you started another thread without reading what was said......

                Typical.

                What was your intent by starting another anti Trump thread without reading the facts?
                And what 'facts' are those?
                We are not now that strength which in old days
                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

                Comment


                • #9
                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                  Republicans have complained for weeks about the secret House impeachment inquiry, accusing Democrats of rigging the process and interviewing witnesses behind closed doors — at one point storming the hearing room and chanting, “Let us in!”

                  But inside the secure room in the Capitol basement where the proceedings are taking place, Republicans have used their time to complain that testimony has become public, going after their colleagues who were quoted in media reports commenting on witness appearances, and quizzing witnesses themselves on how their statements had been released.

                  The efforts by GOP lawmakers to shape the Democrats’ inquiry emerged in full view for the first time Monday with the release of hundreds of pages of transcripts from two early witnesses: Marie Yovanovitch, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, and Michael McKinley, a former senior adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

                  At one point, GOP lawmakers held up the questioning of McKinley to complain about a fellow lawmaker, Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.), who had made a public comment about witness testimony the day before.

                  “Obviously, we’ve talked about confidentiality in here,” said Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a top Trump ally. “. . . Is that a violation of the House rules?”



                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/polit...urt/index.html

                    President Donald Trump seems to sense a chance to leverage expansive, uncheckable power everywhere he looks.

                    A common thread is emerging from the impeachment bombshells, court fights and multiple scandals all coming to head this week inside the one-year mark to the next general election. It's a picture of a President and his men who subscribe to a staggeringly broad interpretation of executive power and have no reservations about using it often for domestic political ends.

                    The trend, which threatens to recast the conception of the presidency shared by America's founders, shone through the first witness testimony released from the impeachment inquiry Monday.

                    One former ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch, who apparently had been in the way of Trump's plans to get dirt from Ukraine on former Vice President Joe Biden, was shocked when the President told his counterpart in Kiev on a phone call that the official US diplomatic representative to his country was "bad news."
                    "I was very concerned, I still am," Yovanovitch said in her October 11 appearance before investigators, saying she felt "threatened" by the harassing words of her own President.
                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/04/polit...ors/index.html

                      An associate of Rudy Giuliani -- Lev Parnas -- has initiated talks with impeachment investigators through his attorney.

                      The attorney, Joseph Bondy, told the team from CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" that he had sent a letter to congressional investigators saying Parnas will comply with a congressional subpoena for his documents and testimony.

                      However, Bondy said he would not use the word "cooperate."

                      Bondy also accused President Donald Trump of falsely denying he had a relationship with Parnas.
                      Reuters first reported that Parnas was in talks with impeachment investigators.
                      Parnas and three other Giuliani associates were indicted on charges of allegedly funneling foreign money into US elections. All have pleaded not guilty.
                      Bondy told The Washington Post on Monday that Parnas plans to "honor and not avoid" requests from Congress "to the extent they are legally proper while scrupulously protecting Mr. Parnas' privileges including that of the Fifth Amendment" in avoiding self-incrimination.
                      Trump has repeatedly denied knowing Parnas or his associate Igor Fruman, who was also arrested while trying to leave the country last month. In photos posted to a now-inactive Facebook page, Parnas and Fruman frequently sought to tout a close relationship to the President, his family and his advisers -- including Giuliani.

                      We are not now that strength which in old days
                      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Persephone View Post
                        Kevin, didn't you learn your lesson with the Mueller report?
                        Now you want to go thru it again with the Ukraine transcript.

                        I guess it's true, you can't fix ______!
                        And what 'lesson' was that?

                        The question is: Why do you and others here support a corrupt and inept president?
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Two more transcripts will be released today:

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                          The House committees overseeing the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump are scheduled to hear from more witnesses on Tuesday and plan to release transcripts from two of the investigation's most prominent witnesses.

                          The House Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs committees plan to release transcripts from testimony by Kurt Volker, the former U.S. special envoy for Ukraine, and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union. Both are key witnesses in the investigation and were questioned about requests for political investigations and the delay of military aid to Ukraine.

                          The committees also are expected to hear from two additional witnesses: Wells Griffith, a special assistant to the president and senior director for international energy and environment at the National Security Council, and Michael Duffey, associate director for national security programs at the White House Office of Management and Budget.
                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                          • #14
                            The 'Three Amigos' for Ukraine:

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                            Testimony by two of the "three amigos" charged with running Ukraine policy for President Donald Trump will be made public on Tuesday, as Democratic-led congressional committees release more transcripts from their impeachment investigation.

                            Representative Adam Schiff, chairman of the House of Representatives Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Monday that transcripts would be released of interviews with Kurt Volker, Trump's former special representative for Ukraine negotiations, and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union.

                            Witnesses have testified that Volker and Sondland, with Trump's secretary of energy, Rick Perry, were known as the "three amigos," responsible for Trump's unofficial channel to Ukrainian government officials.

                            Volker resigned as special representative in September. He testified to the House Foreign Affairs, Intelligence and Oversight panels for more than eight hours behind closed doors on Oct. 3.

                            Sondland, a major Trump donor, testified on Oct. 17.

                            Perry, a former Texas governor who said he was resigning from his Cabinet post as of Dec. 1, has refused to date to testify.

                            Tuesday's will be the second public release of testimony in the impeachment investigation of Trump that Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi formally launched on Sept. 24.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #15
                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                              For weeks, lawmakers and witnesses have been striding past reporters in the basement of the Capitol Visitor Center to enter a room marked “RESTRICTED AREA,” the secure chamber where administration officials have been testifying confidentially in the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

                              On Monday, the public got its first glimpse into what the inquiry sounds and feels like when Democrats leading the investigation into Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine released the first two transcripts of their so-far secret interviews. The hundreds of pages of material offered a rare, detailed peek inside the lengthy sessions, giving a sense of both the dullness and the drama that have characterized the proceedings.

                              The transcripts — two more of which are to be released on Tuesday — are the leading edge of the new, public phase of the impeachment inquiry, which will soon move to televised hearings that aim to lay out Democrats’ case that the president abused his power to enlist a foreign country’s help in smearing his political opponents.
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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