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    Maybe instead of a Min wage in the USA we need a min salary. Denmark is a great country one of the best worldwide and they have a min salary where all workers have to make at least 45k a year. That is 45,000 USD per year as a minimum salary in Denmark. The USA should entertain such an idea and can start by building up huge plants across the country which would produce material to be sold around the country and worldwide that would pay for the min salary.

    https://www.minimum-wage.org/international/denmark

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    When I worked in the casinos, the dealers were paid minimum or just above minimum wage. We were told that tips would make a difference. When we lost a week due to a hurricane (the repair crews were using our hotel for another week) we were finally paid a check that just paid the minimal wage. There is always a loophole so the company can pay us less than what we hoped for. We got our tips on the next paycheck! The part timers also got screwed. They were not getting benefits, but we were sometimes required to work 40 hour weeks for weeks on end. The state Labor Board never helped us on any issue. If there is an enforceable law the company will then lay off workers and make the remaining workers work the difference. The plants that closed and left the US are not coming back.

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    • #3
      This would be a good way to expedite jobs being replaced by robots. It would also hurt inexperienced workers and/or people fresh out of college.
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      • #4
        Roughly speaking, the top twelve US cities / metro areas have GDP's larger than Denmark. Trying to say what works in Denmark will work in the US, is like trying to tell us that somebody with a large sailboat can make their economics work for an aircraft carrier.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
          Maybe instead of a Min wage in the USA we need a min salary. Denmark is a great country one of the best worldwide and they have a min salary where all workers have to make at least 45k a year. That is 45,000 USD per year as a minimum salary in Denmark. The USA should entertain such an idea and can start by building up huge plants across the country which would produce material to be sold around the country and worldwide that would pay for the min salary.

          https://www.minimum-wage.org/international/denmark

          The USA is in need of a leader that will make our country # 1 again.
          You mean use those plants to print money? Since when is a burger flipper worth $45,000 a year to anyone? And how much would that burger cost us?

          Denmark, BTW, is also a Socialist state which allows legal child porn, legal public drugs and other such niceties.

          No thanks, but now I think I see what happened to California. Too many Danish brownies.
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          • #6
            The Danish personal income tax rate is between 55 and 60%. Corporate taxes run around 22%. The sales tax is 25% Add in another roughly 8% VAT for other taxes on top of that. So, the average person is paying close to three quarters of their earnings in taxes to support the state.

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            • #7
              The Danes are obsessed with everyone having the same income as possible it wouldn’t work in the US or Canada as there is no overwhelming support to do so maybe in Quebec.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post
                The Danes are obsessed with everyone having the same income as possible it wouldn’t work in the US or Canada as there is no overwhelming support to do so maybe in Quebec.
                It won't work in the US because unlike Denmark, the US is not an homogenous society. That is, living in a large urban area is a far cry from living in farm country or even more rural places. Denmark is a bit bigger than Maryland. It contains pretty much homogenous land area, all low lying flat land. There are no major mountain ranges, no massive swamps, etc. US national parks cover roughly 5 times the land area of Denmark alone. Wrangel St. Elias National Park is nearly as big as Denmark on its own.
                There is no way that some one-size-fits-all system of wages is ever going to work in the US, and the harder Progressives try to make that reality the quicker they do in places that don't fit their chosen outcome.

                So, while people living in say New York City might well need a $15 an hour wage, someone living in rural Montana probably doesn't.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                  It won't work in the US because unlike Denmark, the US is not an homogenous society. That is, living in a large urban area is a far cry from living in farm country or even more rural places. Denmark is a bit bigger than Maryland. It contains pretty much homogenous land area, all low lying flat land. There are no major mountain ranges, no massive swamps, etc. US national parks cover roughly 5 times the land area of Denmark alone. Wrangel St. Elias National Park is nearly as big as Denmark on its own.
                  There is no way that some one-size-fits-all system of wages is ever going to work in the US, and the harder Progressives try to make that reality the quicker they do in places that don't fit their chosen outcome.

                  So, while people living in say New York City might well need a $15 an hour wage, someone living in rural Montana probably doesn't.
                  Except that consumer goods in Montana generally cost the same as elsewhere. Otherwise, I agree.
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                  • #10
                    Another factor to consider is the Debt to GDP level, both by government and the private sector;
                    ...
                    Denmark recorded a government debt equivalent to 34.10 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2018. Government Debt to GDP in Denmark averaged 41.90 percent from 1999 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 58.10 percent in 1999 and a record low of 27.30 percent in 2007.
                    ...
                    https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark...nt-debt-to-gdp
                    ......................
                    Private Debt to GDP in Denmark decreased to 269 percent in 2018 from 274.28 percent in 2017. Private Debt to GDP in Denmark averaged 244.11 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 286.64 percent in 2009 and a record low of 188.94 percent in 1995.
                    ...
                    https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark...te-debt-to-gdp
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                    Total debt is just over 300% of GDP, not an ideal fiscal position.
                    Debt plus tax load would suggest that it ain't so great in Denmark.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      Except that consumer goods in Montana generally cost the same as elsewhere. Otherwise, I agree.
                      But, big ticket items like rent or cost of homes / mortgages don't. I don't think that apartments rent for tens of thousands in Montana like they do in San Fran or NYC. That leaves more income for consumer goods.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                        But, big ticket items like rent or cost of homes / mortgages don't. I don't think that apartments rent for tens of thousands in Montana like they do in San Fran or NYC. That leaves more income for consumer goods.
                        Except that salaries lag in paces with a low cost of living. Raise the salaries, demand for goods goes up and everybody is screwed again.

                        Incomes for people on fixed incomes in Colorado haven't changed much in many years, but rents have recently tripled in a state that has been Democrat for so long no one can even spell "republican" any more. Now the government is belatedly scrambling to solve the problem of evicting so many elderly and handicapped in the face on public outrage.

                        Do not, however, expect the ACLU to get involved, as there are no criminals to represent, only honest, taxpaying elderly and handicapped Americans...you know..."the deplorables".



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                          You mean use those plants to print money? Since when is a burger flipper worth $45,000 a year to anyone? And how much would that burger cost us?

                          Denmark, BTW, is also a Socialist state which allows legal child porn, legal public drugs and other such niceties.

                          No thanks, but now I think I see what happened to California. Too many Danish brownies.
                          It’s merely an Idea and one that is worthy. Our country is not what it used to be jobs wise so something has to be done. And I don’t think lazy unemployed folks should get free money. So If the United States was to ever have a minimum salary the details should require its workers to work at least a 40 hour work week to get the 45 grand or perhaps they can get 22 or 23,000 a year if they are working part time such as 20 hours a week.

                          Trade jobs, engineering jobs , journey schools all existed side by side with steel and auto jobs that offered Americans right out of high school a good job. We don’t have that anymore , so something has to be done here

                          To TAGs point

                          Just because Denmark is a smaller country compared to the USA does not mean the United States should not look at what Denmark does. It’s obviously a good thing to try and learn from Denmark in comparison to some of the other impoverished and corrupt countries of the world.
                          Last edited by Stonewall_Jack; 17 Oct 19, 19:18.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                            Another factor to consider is the Debt to GDP level, both by government and the private sector;
                            ...
                            Denmark recorded a government debt equivalent to 34.10 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2018. Government Debt to GDP in Denmark averaged 41.90 percent from 1999 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 58.10 percent in 1999 and a record low of 27.30 percent in 2007.
                            ...
                            https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark...nt-debt-to-gdp
                            ......................
                            Private Debt to GDP in Denmark decreased to 269 percent in 2018 from 274.28 percent in 2017. Private Debt to GDP in Denmark averaged 244.11 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 286.64 percent in 2009 and a record low of 188.94 percent in 1995.
                            ...
                            https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark...te-debt-to-gdp
                            ............................
                            Total debt is just over 300% of GDP, not an ideal fiscal position.
                            Debt plus tax load would suggest that it ain't so great in Denmark.
                            Still Denmark is far ahead of most countries economically speaking. In comparison to all middle eastern and African countries I’d rather live in Denmark. I’d rather live and work in Denmark compare to India and China where workers make 1-4 usd per hour.

                            There are huge masses of humanity who live in countries with unjust wages . But Denmark, The United States and most of Europe are not a part of that. So the USA should learn what it can from Denmark
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
                              Still Denmark is far ahead of most countries economically speaking. In comparison to all middle eastern and African countries I’d rather live in Denmark. I’d rather live and work in Denmark compare to India and China where workers make 1-4 usd per hour.

                              There are huge masses of humanity who live in countries with unjust wages . But Denmark, The United States and most of Europe are not a part of that. So the USA should learn what it can from Denmark
                              Then move to Denmark!
                              Countries with unjust wages, what are just wages, If I employ you, I decide the salary, you can take it or be on your way and find an employer that is willing to pay you what you asked for, It not the Governments job what I have to pay you, (mandate) that's extortion and unconstitutional!
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