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  • craven
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    How about something more exact and specific, since there is no wording of this sort in the Constitution.
    Maybe something you found in Article. I. ???
    since it is established precedent t that congress gets to oversee things

    or are you going to argue Trump is an emperor and has no need for oversight.

    For example Trump is using money for things he was explicity not given money for. Hmmm kind of seems like Iran Contra minus the arms deals.

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  • Massena
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    Now Colorado, according to Trump, is on the Mexican border...

    I guess the next thing that will come up is that he'll want New Mexico to pay for it.

    [FONT="&amp]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-were-building-a-wall-in-colorado/ar-AAJg92d?ocid=spartandhp[/FONT]

    Trump is losing it.

    President Donald Trump said Wednesday that a wall is being built in Colorado.

    "And we're building a wall on the border of New Mexico. And we’re building a wall in Colorado. We’re building a beautiful wall. A big one that really works — that you can’t get over, you can’t get under,” Trump said during a speech at the Shale Insight Conference in Pittsburgh.
    He continued, “And we’re building a wall in Texas. And we’re not building a wall in Kansas but they get the benefit of the walls that we just mentioned. And Louisiana's incredible.”
    Colorado is not positioned along the U.S.'s southern border, where Trump has focused his desire for a physical barrier, and there have been no reports of plans to construct a border wall in the state. A portion of the border wall is being built along the Colorado River in Arizona.
    Last edited by Massena; 28 Oct 19, 11:56.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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  • Massena
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    All roads lead to Putin from the White House...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/all-roads-lead-to-putin-pelosi-said-she-told-trump-as-photo-of-meeting-was-snapped/ar-AAIW6kF?ocid=spartandhp

    House Speaker Nancy Pelos said on Thursday that a photo of her appearing to upbraid President Donald Trump was taken as she told him his recent actions are benefiting Russia.

    "At that moment, I was probably saying, 'All roads lead to (Russian President Vladimir) Putin,'" Pelosi said about the photo that was widely circulated after she walked out of a White House meeting with Trump Wednesday.

    Trump tweeted out the photo, which shows Pelosi standing up and pointing her finger at Trump as he, other members of the administration and members of Congress remain seated around an oval table in the Cabinet Room.

    "Nervous Nancy's unhinged meltdown!?" Trump tweeted.

    But Pelosi quickly made the image the cover photo for her Twitter profile as Democrats suggested that she had gotten the better of him.

    "This picture: a strong, calm, confident woman standing up to Trump, is iconic," tweeted Paul Begala, who worked for President Bill Clinton.
    Last edited by Massena; 28 Oct 19, 11:55.

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  • Massena
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-gordon-sondland-meltdown/index.html

    President Donald Trump's frustration with the Democratic impeachment probe is boiling over, with investigators set Thursday to peel back yet another layer of what is being revealed as a broad, and possibly unlawful, behind-the-scenes scheme to pressure Ukraine for political gain.

    Trump blew up Wednesday at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who made the fateful decision to initiate impeachment investigations three weeks ago. Those have moved at staggering speed and produced a torrent of damaging revelations for the White House.

    The President's tantrum, described by top Democrats, came with his increasingly vehement denials of wrongdoing being challenged every day by testimony from current and former officials that has undercut the administration's effort to stall an impeachment process that it claims is illegal in itself.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/nancy-pelosi-trump-twitter-cover-photo/index.html

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday redirected an attack from President Donald Trump on Twitter, turning a photo he had tweeted of her during a contentious White House meeting with the caption "Nervous Nancy's unhinged meltdown!" into her Twitter cover shot.

    The image released by the White House shows the California Democrat standing with her finger pointed at a seated Trump during a meeting in which congressional Democratic leaders said the President had a "meltdown."

    Pelosi's deputy chief of staff Drew Hammill noted the change on Twitter, writing, "Thanks for the new cover photo @realDonaldTrump!"

    Reporters were not allowed in the meeting Wednesday and CNN does not typically report on photos released by the White House because they cannot be independently verified as an accurate depiction of the events in the room. Pelosi reclaiming and promoting the image that Trump meant as an attack, however, marks a notable -- and newsworthy -- exception.

    Democratic leaders were at the White House for a meeting on Syria, which came shortly after the House overwhelmingly in a bipartisan vote passed a resolution opposing the Trump administration's troop withdrawal.

    Speaking to reporters after the meeting, the top congressional Democrats said they had walked out. Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer of New York said they had done so when Trump "started calling Speaker Pelosi a third-rate politician."

    "He was insulting, particularly to the speaker. She kept her cool completely, but he called her a third-rate politician," Schumer said. "This was not a dialogue, it was sort of a diatribe. A nasty diatribe, not focused on the facts."

    Pelosi later said Trump had actually referred to her as a "third-grade politician."
    White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham described the meeting differently, saying in a statement that Pelosi "had no intention of listening" and that Trump had been "measured" and "decisive."

    Later Wednesday, the President tweeted a series of photographs from the meeting along with insults. In one tweet, he called Pelosi "a very sick person!"

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  • Massena
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dems-storm-out-of-syria-meeting-with-trump-we-have-to-pray-for-his-health/ar-AAISWZg?ocid=spartandhp

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer announced at a news conference outside the White House on Wednesday that they had just walked out of a meeting with President Trump on Syria policy, after he apparently called Pelosi a "third-rate politician" and angrily suggested the Democrats probably appreciated communist Islamic State terrorists in the Middle East.

    "What we witnessed on the part of the president was a meltdown, sad to say," Pelosi, D-Calif., remarked.

    She said later, at the Capitol: "I pray for the president all the time, and I tell him that -- I pray for his safety and that of his family. Now, we have to pray for his health -- because this was a very serious meltdown on the part of the president."

    A Democratic source familiar with the conversation told Fox News that Schumer, D-N.Y., started to read the president a quote from former Defense Secretary James Mattis from Sunday: "And, in this case, if we don't keep the pressure on, then ISIS will resurge. It's absolutely a given that they will come back."

    According to the source, Trump cut Schumer off and responded that Mattis was "the world’s most overrated general. You know why? He wasn’t tough enough. I captured ISIS. Mattis said it would take two years. I captured them in one month."

    Last edited by Massena; 27 Oct 19, 11:20.

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  • Massena
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-lashes-out-on-syria-as-republicans-rebuke-him-in-house-vote/ar-AAISrpn?ocid=spartandhp



    President Trump faced off against both parties in Congress on Wednesday in an extraordinary confrontation over his decision to abandon America’s Kurdish allies as the vast majority of House Republicans joined Democrats to an overwhelming vote.

    Mr. Trump found himself increasingly isolated after withdrawing troops from Syria and clearing the way for a Turkish offensive against Kurds who had fought alongside the United States. The president all but washed his hands of the conflict, saying that it “has nothing to do with us,” generating withering criticism from Republicans and leading to a stormy clash with Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
    Last edited by Massena; 27 Oct 19, 11:19.

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  • Massena
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/meltdown-nancy-pelosi-teases-donald-trump-after-he-posts-picture-of-confrontational-white-house-meeting/ar-AAIUfpx?ocid=spartandhp

    After a tense day between Capitol Hill lawmakers and the White House, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had a little fun.

    President Donald Trump tweeted a photo of a group in a meeting at the White House, with Pelosi standing at the table, pointing a finger at the president. In his tweet, Trump said Pelosi had an "unhinged meltdown."

    So, Pelosi made it the cover photo on her Twitter and Facebook pages.

    Lawmakers and the administration met Wednesday to discuss, a meeting that resulted in congressional Democrats walking out of a meeting after they claimed the president was “demeaning” toward Pelosi, and had a “meltdown.”
    Last edited by Massena; 27 Oct 19, 11:19.

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  • Schmart
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Trump and his family, have been daily targets from the LW and the LW-leaning MSM since before the election results. That's nearly 2 1/2 years of constant public assault and abuse. Obama and his family didn't experience anything close to this level of daily and large-scale public condemnation, if anything they received more adulation than they deserved.
    Trump brings so much of it on himself. Maybe he doesn't believe how he talks is inflammatory, but the more I read about his personality and his past, I think he loves it and does it deliberately. He loves a fight. He loves conflict. That's how he operates. He's not a deal-maker in the negotiating, working together sense. He badgers and insults and disparages others until he gets his way. He's not an innocent victim in any sense. He takes a huge amount of crap. A lot of people hate him, but he does so much of it to himself by the way he talks. People don't go out of their way to give him crap. They give him crap after he opens his mouth. It's hard to hate someone who keeps their mouth shut. I think ultimately he likes the attention that he gets from it. He's a (shameless?) self-promoter so any attention he gets is (in his mind) good for business.

    You can hate Obama for his ideas or policies, but I'd say the difference with Obama is that he didn't spew so many inflammatory insults from his mouth (or tweets) on a daily basis. How did republican voters feel when Hilary made her deplorables comment? Trump does the equivalent on a daily basis. That why so many people hate him so much.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
    Clinton isn't running and the Biden stuff is bunk.

    So, outside the US no one really sees any point.
    2020 campaign season is still a ways off, things could change.

    Clinton takes another shot at Trump, as speculation runs rampant about possible 3rd White House run

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/as-...hite-house-run


    Which "Biden stuff is bunk" in YOUR opinion?
    Last edited by G David Bock; 25 Oct 19, 14:20.

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Considering there is a possibility that either Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton might be the Democrat candidate for POTUS in 2020, they are hardly "peripheral" to us here on the inside of the USA domestic situation. That aside from any past misdeeds of those two which may have future impact or bearing.
    Clinton isn't running and the Biden stuff is bunk.

    So, outside the US no one really sees any point.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
    From a view from the outside of US domestic policies both the Bidens and the Clintons are completely peripheral displacement activity. It's by now geological layers of complete pointlessness cluttering the US political landscape.

    But it keeps the US from scrutinizing the US situation as foreign policy actor for real, and presumably that is the point.
    Considering there is a possibility that either Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton might be the Democrat candidate for POTUS in 2020, they are hardly "peripheral" to us here on the inside of the USA domestic situation. That aside from any past misdeeds of those two which may have future impact or bearing.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by craven View Post

    yep oversight from congress
    How about something more exact and specific, since there is no wording of this sort in the Constitution.
    Maybe something you found in Article. I. ???

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  • Johan Banér
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    From a view from the outside of US domestic policies both the Bidens and the Clintons are completely peripheral displacement activity. It's by now geological layers of complete pointlessness cluttering the US political landscape.

    But it keeps the US from scrutinizing the US situation as foreign policy actor for real, and presumably that is the point.

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  • Pruitt
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    Isn't this supposed to mean Trump ever had something to loose?

    Pruitt

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