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  • #16
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    Republican senators are lost and adrift as the impeachment inquiry enters its second month, navigating the grave threat to President Trump largely in the dark, frustrated by the absence of a credible case to defend his conduct and anxious about the historic reckoning that likely awaits them.

    Recent days have delivered the most damaging testimony yet about Trump and his advisers commandeering Ukraine policy for the president’s personal political goals, which his allies on Capitol Hill sought to undermine by storming the deposition room and condemning the inquiry as secretive and corrupt.




    Those theatrics belie the deepening unease many Republicans now say they feel — particularly those in the Senate who are dreading having to weigh their conscience against their political calculations in deciding whether to convict or acquit Trump should the Democratic-controlled House impeach the president.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post

      Then why is he bragging about how he did it on camera on an open forum?
      Seems to me, having seen the video of it, that Biden was explaining how it was done. And there is nothing illegal about what he did, contrary to Trump's 'quid pro quo' to get Ukrainian assistance in the next election-that is illegal as well as unethical.

      Of course, if Trump does it, it's OK with you and those who support Trump?
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post

        Then why is he bragging about how he did it on camera on an open forum?
        Because it was the not just public and official policy of the US, but a slew of allied countries as well. For good reason.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post

          Then why is he bragging about how he did it on camera on an open forum?
          For one, Biden wasn't the president. The previous Ukranian regime was corrupt, including the prosecutor. The prosecutor was corrupt because he wasn't doing his job going after corruption.
          I'd suggest you look further into the details.

          It's a false equivalence. Typical of RW entertainment outlets. Don't let them trick you!

          https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-...biden-ukraine/
          https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...n-and-ukraine/

          There's just so many things you guys learn that are fake news. Don't you care?
          Last edited by inevtiab1e; 28 Oct 19, 07:41.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

            For one, Biden wasn't the president. The previous Ukranian regime was corrupt, including the prosecutor. The prosecutor was corrupt because he wasn't doing his job going after corruption.
            I'd suggest you look further into the details.

            It's a false equivalence. Typical of RW entertainment outlets. Don't let them trick you!

            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-...biden-ukraine/
            https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...n-and-ukraine/

            There's just so many things you guys learn that are fake news. Don't you care?
            No they don't. All they care about is 'protecting' and offering excuses for Trump because he is a Republican president. If he was a Democrat they would be after him as they were Obama. Supporting the country and the Constitution is not what they are about. They are about nothing more than partisan politics. And that is monstrous.
            We are not now that strength which in old days
            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

            Comment

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