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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    The White House gave a politically appointed official the authority to keep aid to Ukraine on hold after career budget staff members questioned the legality of delaying the funds, according to people familiar with the matter, a shift that House Democrats are probing in their impeachment inquiry.


    President Trump’s order to freeze nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine in mid-July is at the center of House Democratic efforts to investigate allegations that Mr. Trump used U.S. foreign policy powers to benefit himself politically. The hold came days before Mr. Trump’s request, on a July 25 call, that the Ukrainian president work with Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr to conduct investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden, a Democratic presidential hopeful.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    Do you know how many previous orders like this there are freezing foreign aid for a variety of reasons?

    We could start with the ones under the National Emergencies Act:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States



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    • #3
      How many were done by a political appointee?
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Massena View Post
        How many were done by a political appointee?
        They were all done at the direction of an elected politician...

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        • #5
          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

          At least four national security officials were so alarmed by the Trump administration’s attempts to pressure Ukraine for political purposes that they raised concerns with a White House lawyer both before and immediately after President Trump’s July 25 call with that country’s president, according to U.S. officials and other people familiar with the matter.
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Freebird View Post

            They were all done at the direction of an elected politician...
            No, they were not. The recent freeze of funding for Ukraine was done by a political appointee of the Trump administration. He wasn't elected.
            We are not now that strength which in old days
            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Massena View Post
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              No, they were not. The recent freeze of funding for Ukraine was done by a political appointee of the Trump administration. He wasn't elected.
              I was answering your previous question.

              T.A.G. said this:

              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Do you know how many previous orders like this there are freezing foreign aid for a variety of reasons?

              We could start with the ones under the National Emergencies Act:

              https://en.org/wiki/List_of_national..._United_States

              Then you asked:

              How many were done by a political appointee?
              So the answer is, elected politicians suspended aid for a variety of reasons

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