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  • #31
    Originally posted by pamak View Post



    The Rosemont Seneca Partners is affiliated to Joe's son!

    And yes, companies usually place on the board of directors people who can help the company with lobbying.
    This is perfectly legal (for Biden's son).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHR_Partners

    advisory firms Rosemont Seneca Partners, co-founded by Hunter Biden, Christopher Heinz and Devon Archer,[2] and Thornton Group LLC.[3

    There is no information in the article which ties Joe to the payment. And the deliberate vague attempt to associate Joe to Rosemont Seneca partners betrays the agenda behind such attempt to (mis)inform people.




    You mean the way Democrats do every single time?

    Biden connected himself when he pressured the Ukraine to stop an investigation and criminal charges against his son, and he abused his position and authority...so he is as guilty as anyone else being accused of something.

    Face it...your boy is dirty.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Canuckster View Post

      I've been hoping the Trump supporters on this thread would answer that but they seem to go quiet when the tax returns/bank & other financial records issue comes up.

      The only response I've seen so far is that tax returns etc aren't really helpful in determining these sort of things. hmmm?

      So how are they going to prove Biden's duplicity on financial matters?
      Only as long as he is running against Trump. As soon as he drops out, the whole thing can be laid to rest.

      Then Trump can move on to make unsubstantiated conspiratorial claims about whomever next seems like a threat. Pelosi perhaps?

      And then as a consequence US attention, time and resources, as much as necessary, can be devoted until opposition to Trump is again removed.

      That really is the pattern. The only question is how far Trumps fantasies and conspiracy theories should be indulged? As far as Trump wants, or is there possibly some kind of limiter? America gets bored with Trump if not earlier at least...

      The man is a fantasist, and the US is an enabler these days.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Johan Banér View Post
        Only as long as he is running against Trump. As soon as he drops out, the whole thing can be laid to rest.

        Then Trump can move on to make unsubstantiated conspiratorial claims about whomever next seems like a threat. Pelosi perhaps?

        And then as a consequence US attention, time and resources, as much as necessary, can be devoted until opposition to Trump is again removed.

        That really is the pattern. The only question is how far Trumps fantasies and conspiracy theories should be indulged? As far as Trump wants, or is there possibly some kind of limiter? America gets bored with Trump if not earlier at least...

        The man is a fantasist, and the US is an enabler these days.
        He's not running for King of Sweden, so why does it bother you so much?

        The man is opposed by by an entire party of socialist elitist fanatics who want to overthrow the American government. Meanwhile, millions of Americans are looking to Trump to break the stranglehold of corruption that paralyzes Washington these days. And the usurpers of resources and money are the Democrats, who stopped working the moment Trump was elected and began concocting and endless series of faked incidents, conspiracy theories and absolute falsehoods. Apparently, insanity and permanent paranoia are requirements for membership in the Democratic Socialist Party.

        And the people ranged against him by the Democratic Socialists in the forthcoming election are a Who's Who, Top Ten, Most Wanted List of the corrupt, the crazy and the criminal.

        But hey...why don't we send the Democrats to your country? They would be right at home there, right?



        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ljadw View Post

          The FBI can not operate legally in Ukraine : the Democrats would say that Trump was guilty of an impeachable offence by using the FBI against a political opponent .
          Of course it can!

          And no, I did not say that Trump should have supervision of the FBI. Trump would have to stay as much remote as he could from such an investigation and let the FBI determine if there is anything worth of investigating.
          My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Freebird View Post
            Agreed, at the moment it's just an allegation.


            How exactly would someone in Ukraine with limited English contact the FBI?
            And why would they care?
            The contact would be among Ukrainians investigating authorities and the FBI. And if somebody tried t approach TRump or Guiliani, he should have been referred immediately to the FBI.
            My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by pamak View Post

              Of course it can!

              And no, I did not say that Trump should have supervision of the FBI. Trump would have to stay as much remote as he could from such an investigation and let the FBI determine if there is anything worth of investigating.
              Ukrainian authorities would not allow the FBI to operate in their country .And if they did, it would not be the FBI who would decide or not .
              US government would also not allow that the Ukrainian secret police would operate in the US .

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                He's not running for King of Sweden, so why does it bother you so much?
                You don't know what the US is do you?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                  Ukrainian authorities would not allow the FBI to operate in their country .And if they did, it would not be the FBI who would decide or not .
                  US government would also not allow that the Ukrainian secret police would operate in the US .
                  I did not say operate!

                  I said cooperate!



                  And as long as they get US aid, they will have no problem to cooperate with the FBI.
                  My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                  • #39
                    Cooperate means here operate .If Ukrainian justice would cooperate with the FBI about the claim that an US citizen had committed a criminal offence in Ukraine, criminal offence for US and for Ukraine, that means that FBI agents would be present in Ukraine, and not to play poker .
                    Besides, only a fool would cooperate with the FBI : the Few But Infamous do not want cooperation ,but submission .

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                      Cooperate means here operate .If Ukrainian justice would cooperate with the FBI about the claim that an US citizen had committed a criminal offence in Ukraine, criminal offence for US and for Ukraine, that means that FBI agents would be present in Ukraine, and not to play poker .
                      Besides, only a fool would cooperate with the FBI : the Few But Infamous do not want cooperation ,but submission .
                      No, it does not mean operate!
                      And I speak as somebody who has followed how the FBI cooperated with the Greek police to fight domestic Greek terrorist organizations. It was not that FBI against were left to operate in Greece. It was a matter of establishing liaison for an exchange of information knowledge, tactics and technology.

                      Your last comment is just conspiracy nonsense which is popular with crooks who want to circumvent the law. Trump chose the FBI's and DOJ's leadership and his attempt to present himself as a victim of the FBI's "deep state' is a joke.
                      My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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