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  • #16
    The far right is just as bad.

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    • #17
      This is one of those non-issues that people can't get enough of, and I have no idea why.

      You know who is political on campus? Teacher's Pets and the geeks that can't get laid, which is mostly the same thing. In California its mostly socialists and race-baiters but it's probably the opposite in the south or the midwest but that isn't the point.
      You just ignore them, or if they corner you or its a teacher you just smile and nod and they start to ignore you. Like Taylor Momsen said; "Tell them its good, tell them okay; Don't do a ******* thing they say!"

      And the best part is; their only support group is the geeks on the other side! That's why they do all those rallies, they are begging the other guys to come out and play, so they can feel validated!

      That's all I really know about them, I'd rather party where there is no "Party" involved, right?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
        A big issue with me is the schools that protest the most are highly intolerant of people who are Not Leftist.

        Pruitt
        Such as ...

        'Straight Out Of The Leftist Playbook': Boston U Cuts Shapiro Audience By Half, Imposes Massive Fee

        "The heckler's veto is alive and well."
        ...
        The conservative student organization notes that in the university's explanation for the exorbitant security charges, administrators cite the need to "provide security for protestors," but notably do not cite the need to protect YAF or Shapiro.
        ...
        https://www.dailywire.com/news/51922...ign=modelnames
        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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        • #19
          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

          Such as ...

          'Straight Out Of The Leftist Playbook': Boston U Cuts Shapiro Audience By Half, Imposes Massive Fee

          "The heckler's veto is alive and well."
          ...
          The conservative student organization notes that in the university's explanation for the exorbitant security charges, administrators cite the need to "provide security for protestors," but notably do not cite the need to protect YAF or Shapiro.
          ...
          https://www.dailywire.com/news/51922...ign=modelnames
          Maybe the University should charge the student groups planning to protest Shapiro for the security...

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          • #20
            Worth watching because it's pretty damn funny.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

              Maybe the University should charge the student groups planning to protest Shapiro for the security...
              That is just too much common sense
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Massena View Post
                The far right is just as bad.
                They are not nearly as bad, not nearly as many, nor do they control academia and the school system.

                If you by far right inferred to conservatives (like leftards so often do) conservatives are the ones defending and exercising freedom of speech. They are not attacking and protesting it under the guise of phantom racism and "hurt" feelings, like leftards do.

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                • #23
                  https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/opini...oth/index.html

                  As the new school year gets underway and the presidential campaign heats up, it won't be long before we hear once again critics bewailing that free speech is no longer a core value at colleges and universities. Through a well-funded
                  effort
                  by conservative political organizations, already more than a dozen state legislatures
                  have passed
                  so-called campus free speech bills.


                  Major research universities will likely be under a spotlight, criticized for supposedly providing a platform for political craziness rather than innovative research, and surely there will be liberal arts college professors labeled "illiberal liberals" (or worse) before the first semester is out. Those with political beliefs they believe unpopular on campus will defend themselves by simultaneously saying they feel forced to self-censor while also calling for more freedom of expression.

                  Along with appeals to free speech, we will also (paradoxically) hear calls for civility, for soft self-censorship in the name of decorum. In fact, we already have, with Cindy McCain's Acts of Civility initiative and in the wake of Bret Stephens' reaction to a tweet from a George Washington professor. At a time when violent racism has become ingrained in immigration policy, at a time when hatred in public discourse has become an accepted part of national politics, it seems both nave and inconsistent to tell college students that embracing civility along with a rough and tumble marketplace of ideas is a cure for our ills.
                  The unregulated free market approach to speech is not a viable path for higher education -- it's both misleading and airily abstract. Real harm to real people results when racism and sexism amplify hateful speech. Giving a platform to overtly racist groups, or to speakers intent on targeting particular portions of a student body, is an exercise in intimidation more than intellectual debate. Nor will the free market approach likely result in giving conservative traditions more consideration on campus.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by walle View Post
                    They are not nearly as bad, not nearly as many, nor do they control academia and the school system.
                    If you by far right inferred to conservatives (like leftards so often do) conservatives are the ones defending and exercising freedom of speech. They are not attacking and protesting it under the guise of phantom racism and "hurt" feelings, like leftards do.
                    Yes, the far right is as bad as the far left and apparently much more violent, as witness the mass shootings lately by white supremacists.

                    Pooh-poohing the violence of the far right from white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc as nothing more than a smaller population that the far left is supporting the far right fanatics by default.

                    Using pejorative comments such as 'leftartd' is not constructive at all and hurts any argument that you may actually have. Do you actually understand what 'free speech' is? Have you ever read the US Constitution? I taught it so if you would like to have a discussion on it please do.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post

                      Yes, the far right is as bad as the far left and apparently much more violent, as witness the mass shootings lately by white supremacists.

                      Pooh-poohing the violence of the far right from white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc as nothing more than a smaller population that the far left is supporting the far right fanatics by default.

                      Using pejorative comments such as 'leftartd' is not constructive at all and hurts any argument that you may actually have. Do you actually understand what 'free speech' is? Have you ever read the US Constitution? I taught it so if you would like to have a discussion on it please do.
                      The far right do not control academia and the school system, so no, they are not nearly as dangerous. Not even conservatives are in control, which is unfortunate.

                      I can only speak for myself when I say that I've never met any white supremacist i.e. white person who wanted to rule over other races.

                      Neither the far right (let alone conservatives) are waging war on their own nations and the constitution, let alone protesting freedom of speech.

                      As for communism and Socialism those two ideologies have done tremendous damage.

                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Using pejorative comments such as 'leftartd'
                      Leftard is a play on retarded, retarded as in pulled back, as in pulled back in your thinking. It describes the left rather well.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by walle View Post

                        The far right do not control academia and the school system, so no, they are not nearly as dangerous. Not even conservatives are in control, which is unfortunate.

                        I can only speak for myself when I say that I've never met any white supremacist i.e. white person who wanted to rule over other races.

                        Neither the far right (let alone conservatives) are waging war on their own nations and the constitution, let alone protesting freedom of speech.

                        As for communism and Socialism those two ideologies have done tremendous damage.



                        Leftard is a play on retarded, retarded as in pulled back, as in pulled back in your thinking. It describes the left rather well.
                        And that proves what? That you can label people with a pejorative comment because you don't agree with them? Well done.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by walle View Post

                          Neither the far right (let alone conservatives) are waging war on their own nations and the constitution, let alone protesting freedom of speech.

                          As for communism and Socialism those two ideologies have done tremendous damage.
                          The far right, such as white supremacists and neo-Nazis are most certainly 'waging war on the own nations' for they are racists who do not believe that anyone 'of color' should be in the United States. Why are you supporting them?

                          Communism and Socialism have indeed done tremendous damage-so has fascism-how many dead civilians from War II? And those the Nazis put in camps and murdered were minorities and/or against the Nazi regime.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            That you can label people with a pejorative comment because you don't agree with them? Well done.
                            ...and this is exactly what the leftards will always resort to, just look at debates between them and conservatives.

                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            The far right, such as white supremacists and neo-Nazis are most certainly 'waging war on the own nations'
                            Like I said, I've never met a white supremacist who wanted to rule over other races (hence supremacist), as for National Socialists they waged war on other nations.

                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            Why are you supporting them?
                            I've never voiced any support for either communists, socialists, or fascists.


                            The left has always waged war on their own nations thou, at times killing millions of their own people in the process.


                            Fascism.
                            Fascism is neither inherently left or right, Fascism is the merger of government and commercial enterprise, with the government in total control. The government owns the means of production, or colludes heavily with major corporations to impose government control.

                            That's what Fascism is.

                            Get the image of goosestepping Germans/Prussians and Russians and Italians out of your head, none of that is a representation of Fascism.





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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by walle View Post

                              The far right do not control academia and the school system, so no, they are not nearly as dangerous. Not even conservatives are in control, which is unfortunate.

                              I can only speak for myself when I say that I've never met any white supremacist i.e. white person who wanted to rule over other races.

                              Neither the far right (let alone conservatives) are waging war on their own nations and the constitution, let alone protesting freedom of speech.

                              As for communism and Socialism those two ideologies have done tremendous damage.



                              Leftard is a play on retarded, retarded as in pulled back, as in pulled back in your thinking. It describes the left rather well.
                              Ohhhh, walle. What planet do you dial this stuff in from?
                              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Massena View Post

                                And that proves what? That you can label people with a pejorative comment because you don't agree with them? Well done.
                                It's important, Massena, to keep in mind who you are responding to. Sometimes, "whatever' is an appropriate response...
                                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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