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    A good rule of thumb is: Let people be.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...cid=spartandhp

    If it has Obama's name on it...or is it an attempt to keep the vote of the evangilistas?

    'In its latest rollback of key safeguards for LGBTQ civil rights, the Trump administration intends to remove nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ people by adding religious exemptions to an Obama-era 2014 executive order that prohibited discrimination in hiring on the basis of both sexual orientation and gender identity. Advocacy groups have decried the new rule as just the latest attack on the LGBTQ community, slamming it as "taxpayer-funded discrimination in the name of religion."'

    'The proposal, which goes public on Thursday at the direction of the U.S. Department of Labor, comes as a stark reversal in administration policy after President Trump vowed to maintain the Obama executive order during his first month in office.'

    '"President Donald J. Trump is determined to protect the rights of all Americans, including the LGBTQ community. President Trump continues to be respectful and supportive of LGBTQ rights, just as he was throughout the election," the White House said at the time.'
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    I'd be interested in his administration providing evidence as to how Trump has protected the rights of LGBT.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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    • #3
      Yeah, those "evangilistas" should take a lesson from the Muslims whom employ lots of LGBTQ in the admin offices of their mosques and warmly welcome many such into the mosques for Friday prayer services.

      A better rule of thumb is don't give one type of people special rights denied to others, or constraining the rights and freedoms of expression of those others.

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      • #4
        My question is, why does this one segment of sexual proclivity deserve special protection above all other segments of sexual proclivity?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
          Yeah, those "evangilistas" should take a lesson from the Muslims whom employ lots of LGBTQ in the admin offices of their mosques and warmly welcome many such into the mosques for Friday prayer services.


          Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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          • #6
            We are not fkn Iran...yet. That is the point
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              My question is, why does this one segment of sexual proclivity deserve special protection above all other segments of sexual proclivity?
              OMG...they and others are not asking any thing special, just equal. It's not hard for most of us to understand
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                We are not fkn Iran...yet. That is the point
                The point is more the issue of where can government violate the First Amendment and constrain the free expression of religion?
                Counterpointed by where can one's expression of religion disrupt the freedom of another's religious expression, or secular(business) operation.

                The rather infamous case of the bake shop taken to court for refusing to make a gay themed/decorated cake, when the larger question should be why the plaintiffs didn't just shop around more to find a bakery that would serve their special request?

                If I own and operate a deli, then hire a Muslim or Jew and that person demands I no longer stock pork/ham products because it violates their religious beliefs, and when I decline they take me to court and sue; where to my rights have to give way to their "rights"?

                When the day is done, religious belief is not a matter of birth but of choice and how much should choice outweigh other items such as skin color or sex(biological plumbing) or ethnic, etc. which one is born with?

                If you like to eat cabbage and I don't like to eat cabbage, because of it's taste - my choice, do I have a right to force you not to eat cabbage?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                  We are not fkn Iran...yet. That is the point
                  The other point is the OP focuses upon Christianity and the position of some factions within that might not want to associate with LBGTQ,etc. via employing them; while excluding the other "religions" that might also want to do such.

                  If you hadn't noticed, the USA has a minority population of Muslims and such is growing, and many of their religious beliefs are starting to clash with our laws and customs.

                  This issue is part of, tip of the iceberg, of the larger issue of how does the religious freedom portion still apply in a country much changed from when such was written nearly 240 years ago?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                    OMG...they and others are not asking any thing special, just equal. It's not hard for most of us to understand
                    But they are asking for something "special" when they expect someone to forego their right of freedom to expression religion and to submit to their expression of sexual activity choice.

                    Not to hard for most of us to understand.

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                    • #11
                      An alternate perspective;

                      Trump admin pushes religious protections for contractors, incurs LGBTQ wrath
                      ...
                      http://www.gopusa.com/?p=74410?omhide=true

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                        OMG...they and others are not asking any thing special, just equal. It's not hard for most of us to understand
                        Name another segment of sexual proclivity that has regular sex parades (aka "pride" parades). Do swingers? Wife swappers? Prostitutes? Strippers? Porn stars?
                        They demand that everyone kowtow to accept their particular fetishes and such too. Doesn't matter if you have an objection however reasonable, you get drubbed and labeled homophobic for it.

                        So, they don't want equal treatment, they want special treatment.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                          Name another segment of sexual proclivity that has regular sex parades (aka "pride" parades). Do swingers? Wife swappers? Prostitutes? Strippers? Porn stars?
                          They demand that everyone kowtow to accept their particular fetishes and such too. Doesn't matter if you have an objection however reasonable, you get drubbed and labeled homophobic for it.

                          So, they don't want equal treatment, they want special treatment.
                          why are you comparing gay people to prostitutes and porn stars?
                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                          - Benjamin Franklin

                          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                            why are you comparing gay people to prostitutes and porn stars?


                            I'm not... I'm pointing out that only the LGBTPDQRSTUV community wants to be able to flaunt their sexual proclivities and fetishes in public. No other segment of sexuality does that in the US.



                            Why the special treatment?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Massena View Post
                              A good rule of thumb is: Let people be.

                              'In its latest rollback of key safeguards for LGBTQ civil rights, the Trump administration intends to remove nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ people by adding religious exemptions to an Obama-era 2014 executive order that prohibited discrimination in hiring on the basis of both sexual orientation and gender identity. Advocacy groups have decried the new rule as just the latest attack on the LGBTQ community, slamming it as "taxpayer-funded discrimination in the name of religion."'
                              I guess these people didn't read CNN's fake news:


                              https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...se-trump%3famp
                              "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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