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  • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    That either one is now in Congress is a serious affront to the American people. Think of them as the face of hate on the radical Left in America today.
    They were legally elected by their constituents. Their beliefs are a serious affront to the United States, but their being in Congress is what they were elected to do.

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    • Originally posted by Massena View Post

      They were legally elected by their constituents. Their beliefs are a serious affront to the United States, but their being in Congress is what they were elected to do.
      What's that say about their constituents? Their being in Congress is an affront or it should be. Two openly anti-Semitic members of the House (Omar was censured-- a very rare move-- for it) It might as well be two neo-Nazis or KKK members for all the difference it makes. Yet, if they were the later, they'd have been run out of the House on a rail. But, because they're radical Leftist racist haters, they get mostly a pass.

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      • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

        What's that say about their constituents? Their being in Congress is an affront or it should be. Two openly anti-Semitic members of the House (Omar was censured-- a very rare move-- for it) It might as well be two neo-Nazis or KKK members for all the difference it makes. Yet, if they were the later, they'd have been run out of the House on a rail. But, because they're radical Leftist racist haters, they get mostly a pass.
        Are they anti-Semitic or anti-Israel? There is a difference. And if Tlaib is of Arab ancestry, how can she be anti-Semitic as the Jews and Arabs are both Semitic peoples?

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        • Originally posted by Massena View Post

          Are they anti-Semitic or anti-Israel? There is a difference. And if Tlaib is of Arab ancestry, how can she be anti-Semitic as the Jews and Arabs are both Semitic peoples?
          Anti-Semitic, particularly Omar. Omar was a member of the MSA for years. The MSA preaches anti-Semitism chapter and verse. She was a board member with CAIR. The House took the extreme step of officially censuring her for her anti-Semitic remarks.

          https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._antiamericani sm.html

          https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-anti-semitism

          Both Tlaib and Omar readily accepted the anti-Semitic MIFTAH funding to finance their trip, which was intended at least in part to be a counterpoint to the Israel friendly AIPAC trips. Accepting, unapologetically, money to go on this trip from a source that denounces Israel, who takes an extremely hostile anti-Semitic tone, and applauds terrorism isn't exactly being neutral towards Jews.



          Even Democrat friendly CNN slammed Tlaib for her anti-Semitism.

          Here's more of her historical revisionism

          https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/05...sations-755155

          Omar is a racist, bigoted, anti-Semite. Tlaib is a racist, bigoted, anti-Semite. Both deserve all the scorn usually thrown at other such racist bigots, particularly on the radical Right. Neither is any better than some neo-Nazi spewing the same sort of hatred for Jews.

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          • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

            Anti-Semitic, particularly Omar. Omar was a member of the MSA for years. The MSA preaches anti-Semitism chapter and verse. She was a board member with CAIR. The House took the extreme step of officially censuring her for her anti-Semitic remarks.

            https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._antiamericani sm.html

            https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-anti-semitism

            Both Tlaib and Omar readily accepted the anti-Semitic MIFTAH funding to finance their trip, which was intended at least in part to be a counterpoint to the Israel friendly AIPAC trips. Accepting, unapologetically, money to go on this trip from a source that denounces Israel, who takes an extremely hostile anti-Semitic tone, and applauds terrorism isn't exactly being neutral towards Jews.



            Even Democrat friendly CNN slammed Tlaib for her anti-Semitism.

            Here's more of her historical revisionism

            https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/05...sations-755155

            Omar is a racist, bigoted, anti-Semite. Tlaib is a racist, bigoted, anti-Semite. Both deserve all the scorn usually thrown at other such racist bigots, particularly on the radical Right. Neither is any better than some neo-Nazi spewing the same sort of hatred for Jews.
            Well partner to each there own. And I respect you. As has been said before, when did Talib or Omar ever provide anti Semitic views. A connection to the MSA is not enough, thats the same as Jewish politicians having a connection to a Jewish Student group of which has a few members like the MSA that may at times provide bigoted views as do some Christians.

            Here is the huge issue, Talib and Omar are pro LGBT which all Muslim bigots would punish them for if they could...so Talib and Omar are just as critical of Israel as they have been of a # of Muslim majority countries. So far all that has been produced is that Omar at one point wrt to Israeli Gov said its all about the Benjamins which is a criticism of the setbacks of the Israeli gov for example wrt Israel allowing in Trump spiritual adviser whom is against Jews and Muslims to speak in Israel. How does the Israeli gov justify allowing in Pastor Jeffress? People in the USA denounce the Gov of other countries all the time...such as Russia, Cuba, Iran, Israel , Saudi Arabia and more. Its a part of freedom of speech and bigotry is a different issue of which no one has produced Talib or Omar saying anything bigoted.
            Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
            Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

            George S Patton

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            • I've posted David Horowitz confronting Muslim Student Association students several times. Omar was a member of this virulently anti-Jewish organization for years.







              This is the group Omar associated with in college.



              Omar is a radical Leftist that supports and agrees with racists, thugs, terrorists, and assorted haters.

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              • Here's an unrelated video to Israel but showing Omar is an insane radical Leftist on a rant. She starts at about 9:30



                She goes off on a socialist rant. Her time in this particular hearing is wasted on empty, rhetorical, emotional nonsense.

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                • Originally posted by Massena View Post

                  They were legally elected by their constituents. Their beliefs are a serious affront to the United States, but their being in Congress is what they were elected to do.
                  Who was paying for this trip?

                  There was a CONDEL paid for by the constituent's government a few weeks ago. Why didn't they go on this trip?
                  "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                  • Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                    Who was paying for this trip?

                    There was a CONDEL paid for by the constituent's government a few weeks ago. Why didn't they go on this trip?
                    I posted that in detail above in post #109 as well as earlier in this thread. They were being bankrolled, funded, whatever by the pro-Palestinian non-profit MIFTAH and the actual point of their trip, as shown by their official itinerary was to be a pro-Palestinian / Leftist response to AIPAC pro-Israel / Conservative trips that have been held.
                    Tlaib's excuse it was to see her grandmother was exactly that. Omar had no valid excuse she could use. Both planned a largely pro-Palestinian anti-Israel show of support for their visit.

                    See post #9 in this thread for the details.

                    https://forums.armchairgeneral.com/f...is-un-american

                    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ed-israel-trip
                    Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 20 Aug 19, 01:17.

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                    • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                      What's that say about their constituents? Their being in Congress is an affront or it should be. Two openly anti-Semitic members of the House (Omar was censured-- a very rare move-- for it) It might as well be two neo-Nazis or KKK members for all the difference it makes. Yet, if they were the later, they'd have been run out of the House on a rail. But, because they're radical Leftist racist haters, they get mostly a pass.
                      Tlaib is Palestinian. Of course she hates Israel and Jews. Her being elected has little to do with her constituents however. She took over John Conyers' district after he suddenly resigned, and the party was caught off balance to provide a quick enough replacement, and Tlaib beat Conyers' nephew (he had wanted his son to run) who of course was tainted by his Aunt and Uncle's scandals. I suspect she will have a tough primary fight in 2020.

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                      • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        I've posted David Horowitz confronting Muslim Student Association students several times. Omar was a member of this virulently anti-Jewish organization for years.







                        This is the group Omar associated with in college.



                        Omar is a radical Leftist that supports and agrees with racists, thugs, terrorists, and assorted haters.
                        TAG the issue is that no one here or anywhere can produce one anti Jewish comment by Omar. Brother that is the issue. The MSA is a separate topic from Omars alleged anti Jewish comments. The MSA is filled with liberal Muslims like Omar that are pro LGBT. I dont know if you are aware, but we have Muslim Student groups across the USA same with Jewish student groups of which its members provide a diversity of views. As you saw, no where has Omar ever made a antisemitic comment in the videos you posted.

                        Nowhere has the very few of ACG that claim that Omar or Talib said something anti Jewish been able to prove such an allegation. All the far right has is to lie, which is anti American. "Socialist" is not anywhere near the same as anti Jewish, after all Jewish Student groups were formed in the Soviet Union. If anything there is a interest in socialism from some Jews and Muslims. Its the far right that spins and lies every day tag, trying to get good folk like you to be against minorities. Our fellow Americans are members of the MSA groups, its no different then how Jews are members of Jewish student groups.


                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillel_International

                        I would highly recommend looking into the MSA...This is America not Israel, not Saudi Arabia. We are free and we have groups like the MSA that have a diverse group of members. If the MSA was so bad it would be banned in the USA. Its truly a disgrace and anti American the types of things Horowitz has said. You know TAG on this one its clear Omar is not anti Jewish, because no one will ever apparently be able to show Omar saying anything even close to antisemitism...unlike Trump spiritual adviser Pastor Jeffress whom speaks against Jews and Muslims. Its the far right that is very anti American and they are trying to influence your views. Ill agree that some Jews, Muslims and Christians are bigots but its anti American to single out groups or to lie about how politicians like Omar or Talib view issues.

                        Even if Omar said I think Jews hate us, I think Judaism hates us that only means Omar is on the same level as Trump whom provably said that I think Islam hates us. This topic is probably the easiest topic to discuss because the facts are in front of us...we know what Trump said, and no one has been able to prove that Omar ever made one anti Jewish comment. Its the most anti American thing for some on the right to complain about comments from Omar that do not exist when in fact Trump and his inner circle(Such as Pastor Jeffress) have openly denigrated Jews and Muslims.
                        Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                        Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                        George S Patton

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                        • Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                          Anti-Semitic, particularly Omar. Omar was a member of the MSA for years. The MSA preaches anti-Semitism chapter and verse. She was a board member with CAIR. The House took the extreme step of officially censuring her for her anti-Semitic remarks.

                          https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._antiamericani sm.html

                          https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-anti-semitism

                          Both Tlaib and Omar readily accepted the anti-Semitic MIFTAH funding to finance their trip, which was intended at least in part to be a counterpoint to the Israel friendly AIPAC trips. Accepting, unapologetically, money to go on this trip from a source that denounces Israel, who takes an extremely hostile anti-Semitic tone, and applauds terrorism isn't exactly being neutral towards Jews.



                          Even Democrat friendly CNN slammed Tlaib for her anti-Semitism.

                          Here's more of her historical revisionism

                          https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/05...sations-755155

                          Omar is a racist, bigoted, anti-Semite. Tlaib is a racist, bigoted, anti-Semite. Both deserve all the scorn usually thrown at other such racist bigots, particularly on the radical Right. Neither is any better than some neo-Nazi spewing the same sort of hatred for Jews.
                          You haven't explained that if a person is of Semitic ancestry and ethnicity how they can be anti-Semitic.

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                          • I say let them in Palestine, then block them from leaving and returning here.
                            The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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                            • Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post
                              I say let them in Palestine, then block them from leaving and returning here.

                              \that is an "extremely unfortunate' idea...
                              ATT, United States Congress representatives have the status of American diplomats when on fact finding missions. The host country is requested to extend them all aid, and protection, to the best of it's abilities.

                              think twice before throwing that privilege out the window....
                              The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                              • Originally posted by marktwain View Post


                                \that is an "extremely unfortunate' idea...
                                ATT, United States Congress representatives have the status of American diplomats when on fact finding missions. The host country is requested to extend them all aid, and protection, to the best of it's abilities.

                                think twice before throwing that privilege out the window....
                                I'm not sure about them having diplomatic status.

                                When they visited the Embassies that I was stationed at they had official gov passports, not the diplomatic black passports.

                                If this was a CODEL, it could be an issue but this was a NGO sponsored trip. Not an official trip sponsored by the US government.
                                "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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