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  • #16
    Did Omar or Talib want to visit Israel?

    Why would anyone that supports freedom visit Israel? Israel segregates sexes on train cars, Israel prevents interfaith marriage. Long live the Catholic Kingdom of Jerusalem is what I say. The Palestinian Gov is only in power because Israel allows it for purposes of keeping up the division. The Palestinian gov in West bank and Gaza are propped up by Israel and are powerless. The two Palestinian gov and Israeli gov are divisive and as the years go on something has to give...the situation will change the only question is will it be one unified state or two separate states?

    BDS is used as a distraction from the status quo, while Israel or PA authorities claim discrimination its they the Israel and PA gov that are intolerant. When an Israeli official of today complains about treatment of Jews, when a PA authority of today complains about treatment of Muslims they are distracting and getting away from real solutions because of their own Gov failures.

    Aside from that. Israel has no issue remaining alive. Its a huge propaganda point to claim Israels neighbors want to destroy her...in the modern times the GCC states and Egypt are close to Israel..and Russia has been close to Israel for a while even going back to the Soviet times. The USSR was the first country to recognize Israel. The wars Israel and her neighbors were involved in were small wars, and its been ages since Israel has been in a war. In Going forward Israel needs to be more liberal and things will improve.
    Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
    Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

    George S Patton

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
      Proves Israel isn't open to any form of negotiations.
      They have offered a two state solution 3 times so far......each time the Arab nations turned it down.
      "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
        . . . . Mossad agents were seen dancing and celebrating on 9/11. . . .
        Can you provide a source for that statement?
        I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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        • #19

          They have offered a two state solution 3 times so far......each time the Arab nations turned it down.
          IIRC, the State SPLITTING WAS A 'PATCHWORK QUILT' solution.
          I would suggest a reading of the 1935 PEEL COMMISSIONS WORK, where both Lord Peel and Bernard Montgomery discussed the need for 'integrity of state's access to water, ports, and what Montgomery described as the necessary security of a militarily defensible two nations with retreat and regroup salient- galilee for Israel, The Beersheba area for the Arab state.
          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Nichols View Post

            They have offered a two state solution 3 times so far......each time the Arab nations turned it down.
            Those types of deals are unacceptable. Need a situation with one unified state that is most preferred because in the end one would want one unified military, not a continuation of the status quo. The only dignified situation in going forward is if Israel and PA gov officials become more liberal. Need to have one state where more Muslims and Christians are in the Israel military. A situation where Gaza, the West Bank and Israel is one state all with the same military and police. Any other option is a failure imo because inevitably any two state deal leads to more division.
            Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
            Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

            George S Patton

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            • #21
              Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

              Can you provide a source for that statement?
              You have to view the archive version of it, since the MSM was not supposed to expose this and most reports have been taken down.

              https://web.archive.org/web/20110208...=123885&page=1
              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
              - Benjamin Franklin

              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                You have to view the archive version of it, since the MSM was not supposed to expose this and most reports have been taken down.

                https://web.archive.org/web/20110208...=123885&page=1
                Same guys are mentioned in this Ne York Times' piece, but the intel angle is merely mentioned, not played up, on account of the fact that their tie to Israeli intel was not confirmed. If it makes you feel any better, however, none other than Donald Trump shares your view of events.

                Donald Trump’s nutty/scary claim that he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating the 9/11 attacks in Jersey City has been widely debunked in the media, but few are pointing out the story on which Trump’s claim is likely based: the arrest of five Israeli employees of a moving company who were said to have watched the towers fall from Weehawken, NJ, with jovial expressions.

                Trump himself has sought to back up his claim by tweeting a passage from an article in the Washington Post on September 18. That article said:
                In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.
                "Trump’s claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 ‘laughing’ Israelis," by Philip Weiss, Mondo Weiss, 26 Nov 2016
                Both your link and the Times' claim that the incident took place in Jersey City, but Mondo Weiss has it in Weehawkin. My father-in-law and my brother-in-law were in Jersey City that morning, and they both drove home on NJ-3 past Giants Stadium. I'll ask them if this rings any bells for them.
                I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                  Same guys are mentioned in this Ne York Times' piece, but the intel angle is merely mentioned, not played up, on account of the fact that their tie to Israeli intel was not confirmed.
                  It was confirmed.

                  Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.
                  "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                  - Benjamin Franklin

                  The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                    It was confirmed.
                    The only problem is that the Forward -- Forvaats in Yiddish -- isn't a respected source. Think of it as Fox News for Jewish socialists.
                    I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                    • #25
                      So the fact that they failed a lie detector test and the equivalent of Fox News reported that they were Israeli intel, isn't enough evidence for you?

                      Is ABC News a credible enough source?

                      Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.

                      Israeli Intelligence Connection?

                      According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence.
                      For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.
                      His own lawyers admitted that he was Israeli intel. The only thing up for debate is whether or not he was part of an operation in the US.

                      Best case scenario, a former (or current) Israeli intel was still caught celebrating on 9/11! That much is a fact.
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #26
                        Israel bars Talib and Omar from entry

                        Good, they don't have any business there to begin with!
                        Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                        • #27
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                          Israel bars Talib and Omar from entry



                          Good, they don't have any business there to begin with![/QUOTE]
                          How do you know they don't have business there? At least they aren't part of the anti-semite republican party. "Jews will not replace us!"

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                          Last edited by inevtiab1e; 15 Aug 19, 18:17.

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                          • #28
                            On the other hand, this refusal to let the two Congresswomen into Israel is an insult both to the Congress and the United States.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                              Can you provide a source for that statement?
                              I'd like to see a credible source for that statement also.
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Massena View Post
                                On the other hand, this refusal to let the two Congresswomen into Israel is an insult both to the Congress and the United States.
                                Not in the case of Omar. She was / is a member of the Muslim Student's Association. The MSA supports Palestinian terrorism against Israel, has openly called for the destruction of that state and the death of all Jews. She was / is a member of CAIR and has sat on state boards. CAIR is another front organization for Islamic terrorists and it too has indirectly supported the destruction of the state of Israel.
                                So, in at least Omar's case Israel has every Right and reason to deny her entry. In fact, it is an affront to the US, and American people that we have an elected member of Congress who supports terrorism and is an anti-Semitic radical.

                                https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/...nd-canada-msa/

                                Omar ran on the radical Leftist Democratic Farm-Labor Party ticket (a seperate party that aligns with the Democrats and often disguises itself on ballots as "Democrat / Democratic."

                                Her seat was previously held by Keith Ellison, the Leftist, racist, hater.

                                Omar has failed to condemn Antifa for their actions, and usually avoids answering such questions. Her father was an avoid Communist / Marxist.

                                Basically, she's a radical Leftist who supports terrorism, is anti-Semitic, and is all but a Communist politically.

                                Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 15 Aug 19, 20:10.

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